Spy Car Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) What is the "other" continent at your house? We were supposed to learn this for school (First Grade) but they asked us to teach the 7 continents without naming them and I'm afraid we taught it the "home-school" way :D Poll to follow. Edited October 13, 2010 by Spy Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I think it is Australia...but then again, I am still arguing about Pluto being a planet, because if it isn't then My Very Educated Mother Just Taught Us Nothing. (not nine planets) AAAHHHHH!!! It just screws me all up...KWIM? I would probably tell them we called it Australia, but it is now named Oceania. Sort of like Istanbul was Constantinople...:D ~~Faithe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 We call it Australia here. And my ds is also upset that Pluto is no longer classified as a planet. :D Cinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamee Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I always thought it was Australia until I moved to Europe. The students I had there called it Oceania and I think that makes so much more sense, so that's what we've taken to calling it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) I always thought it was Australia until I moved to Europe. The students I had there called it Oceania and I think that makes so much more sense, so that's what we've taken to calling it too. See I thought Oceania which is the way all the cool home-educators were doing it this, but when quizzed in class the response:Oceania! Caused a *blink*blink* what's that? response. Fortunately he had the presence of mind to say: Australia. Bill Edited October 13, 2010 by Spy Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 It really depends on your definition of a continent. If you are using the definition of a land mass, then Australia. We were taught in Australia that Australia is the only continent that is both a country and a continent at the same time. Personally I am not happy about all the pacific Islands being pushed into the continent of Australia , But I could be bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Some texts now say Australia and some lump all the islands of the Pacific in with Australia and New Zealand, for an "Oceania".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleWonders Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 We say Australia, and yes, my oldest is also still bugged that Pluto is not a planet. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 We recite them with Australia, but we do discuss "Oceania". I like to practice CYA Homeschooling, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 I think that we should defer to those who live in the region. Let's ask the Kiwis ;) :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleWonders Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 We recite them with Australia, but we do discuss "Oceania". I like to practice CYA Homeschooling, lol. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretchen in NJ Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Australia, but then i am with the Pluto is still a planet club.:tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjx2khsmj Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 That's where my husband is currently and all his airline paper work calls it Australia. I'm hoping the airlines know where he's going to and where he's returning from on his travels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffe Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I'm so out of it that this is the first I've heard of "Oceania". Arrgh.... DD's been listening to the "Continent Song" and it says Australia so that's what we're going with for now. I refuse to acknowledge Pluto's "demotion". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 It really depends on your definition of a continent. If you are using the definition of a land mass, then Australia.We were taught in Australia that Australia is the only continent that is both a country and a continent at the same time. Personally I am not happy about all the pacific Islands being pushed into the continent of Australia , But I could be bias I agree and I'm not from Australia... so I also say you're not blinded by bias ;) Australia, but then i am with the Pluto is still a planet club.:tongue_smilie: :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Actually, I teach both so I skew the poll. I will say "Australia but some people call it Oceania." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I teach Oceania as the continent, but our geography song says Australia. That's where my husband is currently and all his airline paper work calls it Australia. I'm hoping the airlines know where he's going to and where he's returning from on his travels. As a country, it is Australia. When DH flies to Korea it says "Korea," not "Asia." I refuse to acknowledge Pluto's "demotion". I have a friend who is an astrophysicist. She helps make the "Ask an Astronomer" videos. . I see their point. We still learn the song that includes planet, but we have talked about Pluto being demoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Oceania is too 1984 for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffe Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I have a friend who is an astrophysicist. She helps make the "Ask an Astronomer" videos. . I see their point. We still learn the song that includes planet, but we have talked about Pluto being demoted. OK, I understand better, but I'm still pouting. Harrumph. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA6336 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 When did the term "Oceania" come into use? And what, exactly, is it supposed to signify? I'm a newbie homeschooler still, can you tell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabrett Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I'm so out of it that this is the first I've heard of "Oceania". Arrgh.... DD's been listening to the "Continent Song" and it says Australia so that's what we're going with for now. I refuse to acknowledge Pluto's "demotion". :iagree: I have not heard of Oceania.:001_huh: Our Geo Song also says Australia and yes, Pluto is a planet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi @ Mt Hope Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 We sing the continents song with Geography Songs, so we learned Australia. As a land mass, that is probably appropriate, anyway. We've discussed Oceania, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 :iagree: I have not heard of Oceania.:001_huh: Our Geo Song also says Australia and yes, Pluto is a planet! We sing the continents song with Geography Songs, so we learned Australia. As a land mass, that is probably appropriate, anyway. We've discussed Oceania, though. But to me, calling it Australia is like calling the continent of North America the United States. North America includes Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, Greenland, Hawaii, etc. The continent of Oceania/Australia is not one landmass, it includes Australia, Fiji, New Zealand, Samoa, Tonga, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 But to me, calling it Australia is like calling the continent of North America the United States. North America includes Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, Greenland, Hawaii, etc. The continent of Oceania/Australia is not one landmass, it includes Australia, Fiji, New Zealand, Samoa, Tonga, etc. Fiji, New Zealand, Samoa, Tonga are not included in any continents, they are the Pacific Islands. They are not connected to Australia by any land mass. You could use the terms Australasia or Oceania for a regional area, but not for a continent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 Fiji, New Zealand, Samoa, Tonga are not included in any continents, they are the Pacific Islands. They are not connected to Australia by any land mass. You could use the terms Australasia or Oceania for a regional area, but not for a continent. So is Japan not a part of Asia, or the UK and Ireland not part of Europe? In "continental" terms anyway (since they obviously are in a geo-p*litical sense). Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 So is Japan not a part of Asia, or the UK and Ireland not part of Europe? In "continental" terms anyway (since they obviously are in a geo-p*litical sense). Bill No Idea , but I hate Oceania ... I actually strongly dislike Australasia as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 But it is! A DWARF planet, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I don't really like all the islands being compacted in, either, because if you're going to do that, then you need to compress every other island in the world into a grouping with one of the other continents, too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeneralMom Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I use Australia for the continent, and Oceania for the geographic area. So, I say Oceania includes the continent of Australia, and also, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 No Idea , but I hate Oceania ... I actually strongly dislike Australasia as well. I bet you like it better than "New Zealaustralia" :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Ahhhh, but Australasia wasn't in the poll, so that's cheating, LOL! We can't discuss a third name for this one continent - some folks haven't even heard of Oceania yet. We'll put everyone on overload and make their heads explode.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I bet you like it better than "New Zealaustralia" :D Bill :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Ahhhh, but Australasia wasn't in the poll, so that's cheating, LOL! We can't discuss a third name for this one continent - some folks haven't even heard of Oceania yet. We'll put everyone on overload and make their heads explode.... :willy_nilly::svengo::svengo::svengo::scared: :leaving: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
min Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Well, in school in the 70s in Australia, we were taught that Australia was the only continent that was also an island. I hadn't heard the term Oceania until I was in my 20s. Min Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 I use Australia for the continent, and Oceania for the geographic area. So, I say Oceania includes the continent of Australia, and also, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, etc. What about Japan and the Britain and Ireland? Same deal? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Fiji, New Zealand, Samoa, Tonga are not included in any continents, they are the Pacific Islands. They are not connected to Australia by any land mass. You could use the terms Australasia or Oceania for a regional area, but not for a continent. I don't really like all the islands being compacted in, either, because if you're going to do that, then you need to compress every other island in the world into a grouping with one of the other continents, too.... I use Australia for the continent, and Oceania for the geographic area. So, I say Oceania includes the continent of Australia, and also, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, etc. I'm not making stuff up, people. Continents do NOT have to be one connected land mass. Hawaii and Greenland ARE part of the North American continent as far as geography is concerned. New Zealand IS part of the Australia/Oceania continent. New Zealand is NOT its own continent! Japan is NOT its own continent, it is part of Asia! ALSO, Europe and Asia are *different* continents even though they are part of the same landmass. These are not debatable points! Sure, Oceania v. Australia, that is debatable. Whether or not New Zealand is its own continent? Not debatable. It just isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeneralMom Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 What about Japan and the Britain and Ireland? Same deal? Bill No, not the same deal. I was always taught that Japan was part of the Asian continent, and Britain and Ireland were part of the European continent, but Australia was the continent and country. I did not realize that the Pacific Islands and New Zealand belonged to a continent. I always thought they were just continent-less...at least that is what were taught (in Canada, back in the day), I'm probably totally wrong because I still refuse to give Pluto up as a planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen in CO Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 In Moby Dick, Melville referred to the 4 continents. :) If 4 is good enough for Melville, 4 is good enough for me. "And meet it is, that over these sea-pastures, wide-rolling watery prairies and Potters’ Fields of all four continents, the waves should rise and fall, and ebb and flow unceasingly; for here, millions of mixed shades and shadows, drowned dreams, somnambulisms, reveries; all that we call lives and souls, lie dreaming, dreaming, still; tossing like slumberers in their beds; the ever-rolling waves but made so by their restlessness." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 In Moby Dick, Melville referred to the 4 continents. :) If 4 is good enough for Melville, 4 is good enough for me. "And meet it is, that over these sea-pastures, wide-rolling watery prairies and Potters’ Fields of all four continents, the waves should rise and fall, and ebb and flow unceasingly; for here, millions of mixed shades and shadows, drowned dreams, somnambulisms, reveries; all that we call lives and souls, lie dreaming, dreaming, still; tossing like slumberers in their beds; the ever-rolling waves but made so by their restlessness." And The Bible says that the sun revolves around the Earth. Galileo got in trouble with the church for daring to suggest otherwise. Modern understandings of science lead to different definitions. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 We call it Oceania but Australia is in our song. Pluto is not a planet in our house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susankenny Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Australia. But I grew up with only 4 oceans, so what do I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen in CO Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 And The Bible says that the sun revolves around the Earth. Galileo got in trouble with the church for daring to suggest otherwise. Modern understandings of science lead to different definitions. ;) Oh say it isn't so. ;) And I'm planning to teach my kids four continents - just as soon as I figure out what they are/were. I have however heard that some people are taught that North and South America are just a single continent. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 In Moby Dick, Melville referred to the 4 continents. :) If 4 is good enough for Melville, 4 is good enough for me. "And meet it is, that over these sea-pastures, wide-rolling watery prairies and Potters’ Fields of all four continents, the waves should rise and fall, and ebb and flow unceasingly; for here, millions of mixed shades and shadows, drowned dreams, somnambulisms, reveries; all that we call lives and souls, lie dreaming, dreaming, still; tossing like slumberers in their beds; the ever-rolling waves but made so by their restlessness." For me Melville trumps science. Sorry Mrs Mungo :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom31257 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 We call it Australia here. And my ds is also upset that Pluto is no longer classified as a planet. :D Cinder :iagree:, but I'm the one most upset about Pluto. Pluto will always be a planet to me. My dd learned the planets from the Blue's Clues song. You can't sing it if you don't name Pluto because it won't rhyme! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy in Indy Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 My bil works for Lowell Observatory where Pluto was discovered. We're solidly in the "Pluto is a planet, not a dwarf, camp." :-) I guess I live in the dark ages. When I taught social studies some...mrhmrph years ago...I spent 6 weeks trying to get the kids to remember the 7 continents. Australia was one of those 7. I'm too old to learn a new list. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zann Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I think it is Australia...but then again, I am still arguing about Pluto being a planet, because if it isn't then My Very Educated Mother Just Taught Us Nothing. (not nine planets) AAAHHHHH!!! It just screws me all up...KWIM? I would probably tell them we called it Australia, but it is now named Oceania. Sort of like Istanbul was Constantinople...:D ~~Faithe I think it was just domoted to Dwarf Planet. Planet however is in its name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I use Australia for the continent, and Oceania for the geographic area. So, I say Oceania includes the continent of Australia, and also, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, etc. :iagree: But my understanding is that there is no clear definition of "continent" in geographic terms. There's consensus, but disagreements. I teach that there's only 6 - Eurasia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindyg Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Australia. Edited October 14, 2010 by Cindyg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakeside Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Oceania is too 1984 for me. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iona Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 i hadn't heard of oceania either until this thread. also how is it pronounced? oh shee yah nee yuh oh shen ee yuh oh shen yuh oh shee yah nyuh and why are they called continental breakfasts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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