Chris in VA Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) Nice, huh? They are away in Richmond tonight and tomorrow, and went there for dinner.:glare: ETA: I don't mean the coaches paid the bill, either. Edited January 9, 2010 by Chris in VA clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelle in MO Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 That would have been my response, too. So sorry. :001_huh: Chelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I'd complain to the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Reminds me of this: http://www.azcentral.com/community/nephoenix/articles/2009/12/17/20091217hooters1217.html I'd definitely make a fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 :glare: I would be displeased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crissy Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 :glare: I would be displeased. As would I. And I would make sure my son's coach knew how displeased I was. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renee in NC Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Sometimes people just don't think before they do things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Sorry! There's a roll model for young men. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanie78 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I would be unhappy too, and would definetly complain. The Hooters here advertises that kids eat free on the weekend. I have always wondered what type of people would take their kids to Hooters.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I would pitch a screaming mimi about this one. That coach and his superiors would feel my ire. Totally inappropriate. There are plenty of other restaurants to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Ok I probably wouldn't throw a Screaming Mimi but I would give them a "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!?!?!?!?!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) Y'know, I just thought of something else--do they serve alcohol at Hooters? I'm not too comfy with that, either. It's Richmond, for goodness' sake. Can't they go to Pizza Hut or something? On top of that, he only brought $15 with him--which is all we had. I wish I had packed him more food or sent more $. He's got to go all day there tomorrow. Sigh. I'm not good at this. ETA:--You'll never believe the verse on my blog today-- "Bad company corrupts good character." from Corinthians. That's pretty funny, considering. Edited January 9, 2010 by Chris in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Y'know, I just thought of something else--do they serve alcohol at Hooters? I'm not too comfy with that, either. It's Richmond, for goodness' sake. Can't they go to Pizza Hut or something? On top of that, he only brought $15 with him--which is all we had. I wish I had packed him more food or sent more $. He's got to go all day there tomorrow. Sigh. I'm not good at this. They do serve alcohol at Hooters. :( I am sorry about the money, I would think that meals should be included in the price of a trip so there isn't confusion like that. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't think it costs them anything to go on the trip. But, y'know, I'm not sure! I have not given the coaches our emails yet, and so I have no idea if they were supposed to pay--I don't think so, tho. This is the second time they've stayed overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 How old are the boys? It probably wouldn't bother me in the least. A baseball season ago, the Coaches asked their team (ages 14 - 16) where they wanted to go for their party. Hooters was the uncontested answer. I had to work that night; DH "had" to bring baseball player and other son and dd. He was dismayed. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thea Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 My friend's ds is on the MIDDLE school wresting team and the coaches took the team to a novelty pastry shop where the main attraction was donuts and pastries shaped like private parts. Nice. What the HECK are these people thinking???????!??!??!??!?!??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiana Daniels Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 OH MAN! What's wrong with people? It's one of those where you want to knock on their head and say, "Hello...McFly!" Is this a school trip or a paid league thing? I'd definitely complain to the administration if it's a school trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cara Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 How old are the boys? It probably wouldn't bother me in the least. A baseball season ago, the Coaches asked their team (ages 14 - 16) where they wanted to go for their party. Hooters was the uncontested answer. I had to work that night; DH "had" to bring baseball player and other son and dd. He was dismayed. :lol: I'm with you, seeing as the OP's son is 18, I'm assuming the boys are probably 16-18, so it wouldn't bother me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I'm with you, seeing as the OP's son is 18, I'm assuming the boys are probably 16-18, so it wouldn't bother me at all. If the kids were younger, I think a fair amount of the atmosphere would go over their heads. It would actually be the older teens that I would be more conservative with since they would be very aware of what was being put on display. (Yes, I have been in a Hooters. No, I would not take, say my Boy Scout Troop there.) FWIW, my husband was on his first deployment, lo many decades ago when the other officers decided to go to a strip club for "dinner." He declined to go in and spent the evening sleeping in the van that they had taken out. He had several guys come up to him later and say that they'd wished that they'd not gone in but didn't know how to say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I just thought of something else--do they serve alcohol at Hooters? I'm not too comfy with that, either. They serve alcohol at most children's party places (Chuck E. Cheese, bowling/laser tag party places), Applebees, Chili's, weddings, Steakhouses and the 2 most popular local places here for team parties (not including Hooters :D) Pizza Hut was mentioned, don't they serve beer? Hooters I can understand not going to (although I don't share the concern), but avoiding places that *serve* alcohol? For nearly grown children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 They serve alcohol at most children's party places (Chuck E. Cheese, bowling/laser tag party places), Applebees, Chili's, weddings, Steakhouses and the 2 most popular local places here for team parties (not including Hooters :D) Pizza Hut was mentioned, don't they serve beer? Hooters I can understand not going to (although I don't share the concern), but avoiding places that *serve* alcohol? For nearly grown children? I agree that it avoiding restaurants that serve any alcohol would pretty much limit you to fast food. On the other hand, as a scout leader I agree never to consume alcohol at a scout function. I wonder if coaches are similarly asked not to consume alcohol during a coaching event. For me, that would mean there was no alcohol at our tables, not that we would never go to a restaurant that served alcohol. I find this is a little different from the rules some private schools have that teachers will not drink at any event that students are at. Not just school related events, but anything where there is a student. I think there is a fine line between being a good role model and also modeling responsible use of alcohol when one is "off duty." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tap Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) I know I am in the minority, but honestly I wouldn't care. What kids see in high school classrooms every day or at any beach/pool/sidewalk in summer, is way more revealing and in-your-face that what is seen at Hooters. I am assuming that the team is all high schoolers, if not I may feel differently. but I doubt it. I am a simple t-shirt and jeans girl. I rarely even wear shorts, so it isn't like I would dress like they do (and thus may not see a problem with it)....but I guess I am just not that uptight about human bodies. I don't think twice about nude artwork in museums or art books and we go to the city to purposefully people watch. Considering how many conversations there have been on the boards about similar topics over the years, I do understand and respect that many people would have a problem with it. And someone who does try to have a more conservative life style in and away from home, would absolutely have a problem with it. I would never take anyone there, if I thought it would make them or their parents (of a minor) uncomfortable. Due to this alone, I wouldn't take another person's child there, but I wouldn't call and complain about it either. Edited January 9, 2010 by Tap, tap, tap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Yes, I was thinking along those lines as well: If a bunch of 16-18 yo decided to go to Hooters, then it was their decision - good or not so good. However, as I understand the situation, in this case an authority figure, a coach, suggested it or just took them there. How many would have rather been somewhere else so they would not have to be embarrassed but were too embarrassed to say so? I doubt my ds would be comfortable there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I've never been to Hooter's, so I don't really know what goes on there, but it is considered a rather mainstream restaurant where I live, and I see families going in and out all the time. Now then, the cleavage I saw at a German-ish restaurant was sooooooo long, I was tempted to get out a measuring tape. Kiddo was fascinated. (I muttered to him "they almost defy gravity" just to acknowledge I saw him staring and it was a bit impolite. He gave me that "there goes Mama with an odd remark" look. I want to tell him that if he is really my son, just another dozen years or so, and he'll be the odd-remarker! My mother would have said something like "get a load of them lung-warts." I mean, when she served, it was like having two bowls of mashed potatoes put in one's face.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in Neverland Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I would totally chuck a mental over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachermom2834 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I wouldn't like it as that is not someplace I would enjoy going or taking my boys but I realize it is pretty mainstream. My ds 9 yo baseball team last year (full of Christians) chose to go there for the kids eat free deal one time last season. Not my cup of tea and we passed. But, as the kids are older and in activities outside of our home with peers, I just have to let go of some of this kind of stuff. I know that may be unpopular to say. Basically, I would be annoyed. I'd complain to dh for a couple of minutes. I'd probably tell my son "lovely, sorry I missed it" and he would get my sarcasm. In the end it would basically be an eye roll moment and we'd move on. I would not complain to the coach. I think that could cause more problems for ds in a team setting than a trip to Hooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtb1999 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I honestly wouldn't be upset. We are talking about 18 yr olds, correct? Heck, I take my 2 kids to Hooters. The food is good, the prices are right, it's all good. ;) So, why are so many people opposed to this coach taking essentially grown men there? Is it the waitresses, the beer, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaHadley Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I would not appreciate it AT ALL. It's hard enough to teach boys to guard their eyes and hearts, they don't need men that they look up to taking them to a restaraunt who is known for their scantily clad waitresses. I don't care a bit about them serving alcahol. . . it's the fact that they use sex appeal to get people in there. I would not take my family in there, and my dh would never go in there. He respects me more than that. I would think someplace like applebees would have the same type of food and a tv for them to watch a game or whatever. . . but perhaps I'm just a little too conservative in what I think is harmful to men's hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asta Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 How old are the boys? It probably wouldn't bother me in the least. A baseball season ago, the Coaches asked their team (ages 14 - 16) where they wanted to go for their party. Hooters was the uncontested answer. I had to work that night; DH "had" to bring baseball player and other son and dd. He was dismayed. :lol: :iagree: Then again, DH and I ordered a pitcher of beer this past summer and the waitress brought 3 glasses... I've got a picture that would make my mother have an aneurysm, even though DS is legal to drink where we live. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.MacGyver Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I would probably roll my eyes, and then Dh would remind me that the Hooters attire is equivalent to what the girls are wearing in gym class at the High School, and that we have been to Hooters before with our kids...and then I would roll my eyes again... :confused: I do think it is pretty dumb choice for someone to make without the parents around, though. I can see where some people would have a problem with it. And, as a coach himself, Dh wouldn't take the boys there without the parents giving an ok first (even though by the time they reach the 17-19 yo age group...I'd guess that most of them had already been there before:lol:). As for the alcohol, I would not care if the restaurant served it. But if I had found out that the coaches were having a few, I would be livid. But, we weren't even talking about that, were we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Y'know, I just thought of something else--do they serve alcohol at Hooters? I'm not too comfy with that, either. Going somewhere that *serves* alcohol wouldn't bother me in the least. So does practically any sit-down restaurant. (Doesn't Pizza Hut serve beer?) But I would be very displeased with a *school* trip taking minor children to Hooters. It's inappropriate. I think a very calm phone call to the school would be quite reasonable. Screaming and ranting, not so much. ;) But let them know that you're disappointed the coach had poor judgment about this, and hope that it will not happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariannNOVA Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Reminds me of this: http://www.azcentral.com/community/nephoenix/articles/2009/12/17/20091217hooters1217.html I'd definitely make a fuss. This is what I thought of when I read your post. Yes, :iagree:, a fuss. And, yes while kids do eat free on the weekends (and I know this has nothing to do with your post), in this economy, DH and I have noticed that there are TONS of places where kids eat free as a promotion to get patrons in the door - so there likely were places that would be considered more appropriate than Hooters.....if economy were an issue. Mariann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaMa2005 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Inappropriate IMHO. Something like that could cost the coach is job. It would in the county where my DH works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassiemc Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I would be livid!! I HATE that place. I have never been in one, my DH doesn't go there and no other adult better think about taking my children to it either. I would have to say something. I'm sorry this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhM Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Going somewhere that *serves* alcohol wouldn't bother me in the least. So does practically any sit-down restaurant. (Doesn't Pizza Hut serve beer?) But I would be very displeased with a *school* trip taking minor children to Hooters. It's inappropriate. I think a very calm phone call to the school would be quite reasonable. Screaming and ranting, not so much. ;) But let them know that you're disappointed the coach had poor judgment about this, and hope that it will not happen again. :iagree: Hooter's (the restaurant, not the name) has a certain connotation - that is, it sells a particular "brand" that is well understood and distinctive. (As Joanne pointed out when she said her dh "had" to accompany ds's team there.;)) I would think that most public school employees would have some idea that taking public school students to such a place is a recipe for trouble. Maybe not enough to lose your license or even your job over, but possibly enough to see your name in the paper and your integrity questioned. I would definitely make sure the administration heard about it, and I would (calmly) make sure it went up the chain to the top if I wasn't taken seriously. I also agree with a pp who mentioned that 16-18yo boys choosing Hooter's for dinner is different than the coaches taking them there. I dealt with this exact same issue in my first job when the boss rewarded a couple of 20-something guys for an extra long night of work with a $100 bill and the advice, "Head over to Hooter's and have yourselves some fun." My problem wasn't with the guys going to Hooter's; it was the boss sending them there knowing that some women in the office already had borderline sexual harassment issues w/these guys. It would have been just as rewarding to hand them the cash and say, "Here guys, go have a nice dinner and relax; you've earned it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticamethyst Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 For young adults such as the OP son, 18 I believe, I woulnd't have an issue. These aren't children really, granted they are our children but in the eyes of most they are young adults completely capable of making informed decisions. Are there better places they could have gone, sure there are but is it a reason to go rip roaring mad at a coach probably not. Would I bring anyone there under the age of 15, heck no, did the coach use poor judgement he sure did. I see girls dress with less at the local grocery store or walmart, its a fact of the times we live in unfortunately. To Stephanie78 As for what kind of parent brings there kids there, I guess I am, all 4 of my kids have been in and eatten at a Hooter's, with the explaination that everyone had to have a job and this is theirs, I worked at a Hooter's for a while and it paid my bills, not sure what you think of me now. I think some might be to quick to condem this place, the people that go there and the people that work there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Thank you for all the replies. Everyone is entitled to her opinion. I'm not terribly conservative, truly. I don't black out nude bits in art books, I do forbid porn, but I do let ds go to some R-rated movies (Transformers, etc.). I know he's 18. And yes, I agree with that serving alcohol is pretty common. That's my own sensitivity, and was inappropriate to bring up. I don't like the idea of mixing the serving of alcohol with waitresses that are wearing shirts designed to show off their breasts, tho. But I'll grant that point. This is a team at a public school with kids ranging in age from 15-18. IT was not the boys' decision. Maybe it was the only restaurant open in the area at 10 pm. (Tho' I'd think they had take out.) IDK. But I'm going to find out. I knew this would be somewhat controversial. I have to say I'm surprised at those who would think it was appropriate in this instance to go to Hooters and not think twice about it. I just find it a demeaning place, and I don't think it's appropriate to take boys there. The whole place is set up to be a "wink-wink" experience, with attention deliberately drawn to one part of the human anatomy. Women as objects. Don't we have enough of that in everyday life? Weren't there recent posts about inappropriate grabbing and whatnot? I do not want my son going to a place where there are women who are subjected to that every time they work, even if it is their choice to put on that tiny tee and bend over the table. I know we are all different--I guess I'm still upset, and I feel very uncomfortable about bringing this up with the coaches. THAT makes me feel angry, too, to have been put in this place. No more comments from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillfarm Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Many years ago, our local Hooters ran a commercial that said, "Kids, do your Dad a favor, and tell your Mom that you really want to eat at Hooters tonight!" And showed a hardworking, stressed Dad who lit up like a Christmas tree when he hear his little girl saying the above to Mommy. There was so much out cry that they pulled the ad after a few weeks. And yet, I do have to admit, they have good wings. Although we used to always get ours from the drive through so we didn't have to go in.:glare: Alas, now we live in the middle of nowhere, and the only hooters here are the owls in the pine trees....and all we get from them are pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I have to say I'm surprised at those who would think it was appropriate in this instance to go to Hooters and not think twice about it. I just find it a demeaning place, and I don't think it's appropriate to take boys there. The whole place is set up to be a "wink-wink" experience, with attention deliberately drawn to one part of the human anatomy. Women as objects. Don't we have enough of that in everyday life? Weren't there recent posts about inappropriate grabbing and whatnot? I do not want my son going to a place where there are women who are subjected to that every time they work, even if it is their choice to put on that tiny tee and bend over the table. I'm going to guess that there is no more inappropriate grabbing at Hooters than family gatherings, Youth Events, and workplaces. I was the poster who posted about being inappropriately grabbed. I am 43, overweight, and was definitely not wearning anything highlighted my books. People who are inappropriate are inappropriate regardless of setting (and while I was in a *bar*, the person who grabbed me is not a drinker). I'm against the porn *industry* and I'll grant that Hooters is on that continuum. I also embrace complicated feelings about expressions of attractiveness, sexuality, modesty and playfulness. All that, I suppose, is fodder for another discussion. I guess I'd say that just like I can't make too many accurate assumptions about your reaction to Hooters as you can't make too many ones about my comfort with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I haven't read all the other replies yet, but it's JUST a restaurant, not a strip club. Would you have the same problem if he took them to a beach in the summer? They would see more skin there. As for serving alcohol, so do Chilis, Applebees, Red Robin, most steak houses...you get the idea. My only gripe would be the money if the kids had not be told in advance that they would need to cover meals any place other than fast food. Also, OP's son is 18 and I'm presuming that the others are at least high school age. (Honestly though, the age would not matter to me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Many years ago, our local Hooters ran a commercial that said, "Kids, do your Dad a favor, and tell your Mom that you really want to eat at Hooters tonight!" And showed a hardworking, stressed Dad who lit up like a Christmas tree when he hear his little girl saying the above to Mommy. There was so much out cry that they pulled the ad after a few weeks. That's disgusting... using kids to get mom to agree to go so dad can get a sexual pop from young women and their boobs. Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 The issue isn't whether Hooters is an ok place for 15-18yo boys (although I think it is completely inappopriate, personally). It is about the fact that the coach made a decision without consulting the parents involved - a decision that at least one of those parents would have nixed given the chance to express an opinion. The parents entrusted their children to another adult whom they expected to use common sense. Taking hormone-crazed young adult males that have been entrusted to your care to a restaurant where oggling at women's bodies is the expected order of the day is not using common sense. If he had no sense whatsoever that his choice would be controversial then he lacks plain common sense and should not be allowed to supervise young adults - especially in light of the recent story in Arizona about the exact. same. thing. Does he even read the news? Seems like a coach or teacher would err on the side of caution since the teacher in Arizona got put on administrative leave and may lose her (his?) job. ETA: I think any place that capitalizes on exploiting women's body parts for profit is inappropriate for anyone, male/female, any age at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 I'm against the porn *industry* and I'll grant that Hooters is on that continuum. I also embrace complicated feelings about expressions of attractiveness, sexuality, modesty and playfulness. All that, I suppose, is fodder for another discussion. Tho I said I was done commenting, I do want to say that I appreciate this, Joanne. My heart is so hurt for this child, and I am still recovering from the family disease of addiction; that colors my reactions to stuff like Hooters. I'm trying hard not to control, but I am still learning how to parent. This child has been exposed to far more than I ever would have wanted, and some of it thru adults with very, very poor decision making skills. I know you can relate to our family stuggles, and I always look to your well-reasoned posts for guidance and balance. Thanks for your perspective, and I do hope I was not offensive in giving my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 The issue isn't whether Hooters is an ok place for 15-18yo boys (although I think it is completely inappopriate, personally). It is about the fact that the coach made a decision without consulting the parents involved - a decision that at least one of those parents would have nixed given the chance to express an opinion. The parents entrusted their children to another adult whom they expected to use common sense. Taking hormone-crazed young adult males that have been entrusted to your care to a restaurant where oggling at women's bodies is the expected order of the day is not using common sense. If he had no sense whatsoever that his choice would be controversial then he lacks plain common sense and should not be allowed to supervise young adults - especially in light of the recent story in Arizona about the exact. same. thing. Does he even read the news? Seems like a coach or teacher would err on the side of caution since the teacher in Arizona got put on administrative leave and may lose her (his?) job. ETA: I think any place that capitalizes on exploiting women's body parts for profit is inappropriate for anyone, male/female, any age at all. Exactly. I totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaddon Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 We love Hooters wings and shrimp, and the chocolate cake. We go in and order it for carry out and take it home :) I've taken the boys in when they were babies to eat. They were all BF so they looked around like it was an all you can eat buffet- too young to know (under a year). But at that age I would be upset too :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Doesn't Papa Gino's serve alcohol and even Chuckie Cheese? And Outback and Chili's and all of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmacnchs Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I would not appreciate it AT ALL. It's hard enough to teach boys to guard their eyes and hearts, they don't need men that they look up to taking them to a restaraunt who is known for their scantily clad waitresses. I don't care a bit about them serving alcahol. . . it's the fact that they use sex appeal to get people in there. I would not take my family in there, and my dh would never go in there. He respects me more than that. I would think someplace like applebees would have the same type of food and a tv for them to watch a game or whatever. . . but perhaps I'm just a little too conservative in what I think is harmful to men's hearts. :iagree: My dh went there all the time w/his wrestling team in hs...something about wrestling teams...He would eat the all you can eat wings and be content. He never looked at the girls - he is way too oblivious and into the food but it still bothered me when I found out (when we were dating in hs) and would MAJORLY bother me if it were my son. It is fine if the kids decide to go there on their own - they are old enough to make that decision. However, being part of a team, the coach should not have made everyone go as a *team* thing - there is no way to get out of that without being ostracized from the team (believe me, I've been in those type of situations)... I would talk to your son about it before I talk to the coach though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Anyone old enough to remember these? http://momgrind.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/571210963_9595a43b00.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Anyone old enough to remember these? http://momgrind.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/571210963_9595a43b00.jpg No, but at least their books aren't squishing out of push-up bras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 The issue isn't whether Hooters is an ok place for 15-18yo boys (although I think it is completely inappopriate, personally). It is about the fact that the coach made a decision without consulting the parents involved - a decision that at least one of those parents would have nixed given the chance to express an opinion. The parents entrusted their children to another adult whom they expected to use common sense. Taking hormone-crazed young adult males that have been entrusted to your care to a restaurant where oggling at women's bodies is the expected order of the day is not using common sense. If he had no sense whatsoever that his choice would be controversial then he lacks plain common sense and should not be allowed to supervise young adults - especially in light of the recent story in Arizona about the exact. same. thing. Does he even read the news? Seems like a coach or teacher would err on the side of caution since the teacher in Arizona got put on administrative leave and may lose her (his?) job. ETA: I think any place that capitalizes on exploiting women's body parts for profit is inappropriate for anyone, male/female, any age at all. I totally agree. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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