DawnM Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Our renter has overall been a good renter. He rents dad's apartment in our house. He was noisy at night at first but we got that all straightened out. His alarm clock goes off for over an hour. Every. Day. Sometimes it is kind of way in the background and I don't hear it, but this morning it has gone off for 30 min and I am about to go break into his room and throw it against the wall. He is a super heavy sleeper and sleeps through the alarm. So WHY can't he just wake up when he wakes up if he plans to do that anyway? ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not even trying to sleep, but I am trying to concentrate and I can't. We WILL be having a discussion, but I just needed to get this off my chest. 3 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 My sister-in-law, who was my roommate before she was my SIL (separate bedrooms) did this too. Her alarm would start beeping at 7 or so and it would continue to beep for over an hour. Fortunately, I usually had left for work and I was up hours before her so it didn’t affect me much. But it did always seem curious to me. I believe we can train ourselves to hear an alarm or ignore it depending on our true intentions, so yes, I did always wonder why she didn’t just set the alarm for the time she truly intended to wake and then train herself to wake up at that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 DS13, who sleeps through his alarm anyway, forgot about daylight savings time and it went off an hour earlier this morning. The rest of us were not amused. The rest of us have adapted to alarm tones. DS24's is very deep, dh's is like a tinkling brook, and mine is a standard beep. Most of the time we only wake up to our personal alarms and block out the other tones, but ds13 sets his so infrequently that there is no sleeping through half an hour of constant beeps. I may have to switch him to a sunlight alarm, just for the rest of our sanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, HomeAgain said: DS13, who sleeps through his alarm anyway, forgot about daylight savings time and it went off an hour earlier this morning. The rest of us were not amused. The rest of us have adapted to alarm tones. DS24's is very deep, dh's is like a tinkling brook, and mine is a standard beep. Most of the time we only wake up to our personal alarms and block out the other tones, but ds13 sets his so infrequently that there is no sleeping through half an hour of constant beeps. I may have to switch him to a sunlight alarm, just for the rest of our sanity. I can't sleep through much noise at all. I am a very light sleeper. BTW: It is STILL going off 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Very strange. Our alarms stop going off after some amount of time (10 minutes?) whether turned off or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Ugh. I'm sorry. As one who generally wakes up before mine goes off, this is a pet peeve. I had a roommate years ago who would let hers go off for awhile (it was really less than a minute, but since it woke me up, it felt longer), hit the snooze, then repeat. Drove me nuts. Another of my peeves is when they turn it off, but not the snooze, then go get in the shower.😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I did not realize you had rented the apartment. Cool. Dh sometimes forgets to turn off his alarm that he may have set for one day of early wake up. Or he has me set my alarm for 6 and then doesn’t really get out of bed for 2 hours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjzimmer1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 As the person who is a deep sleeper and not a morning person and struggles mightily to move in the morning, I want to apologize on behalf of your renter. For some of us getting up is not easy and we really do need a long period of annoying sounds to reach a level of consciousness that we can even respond to the alarm. This is as ongoing "discussion" in my household as my DH can wake up at the drop of a hat and several of us do not. Waking up is like fighting through a battle of sludge in my mind, I can WANT to get up at a certain time all I want but being able to get the brain alert enough to notify the body that it needs to move is a whole nother matter. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleowl Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, cjzimmer1 said: As the person who is a deep sleeper and not a morning person and struggles mightily to move in the morning, I want to apologize on behalf of your renter. For some of us getting up is not easy and we really do need a long period of annoying sounds to reach a level of consciousness that we can even respond to the alarm. This is as ongoing "discussion" in my household as my DH can wake up at the drop of a hat and several of us do not. Waking up is like fighting through a battle of sludge in my mind, I can WANT to get up at a certain time all I want but being able to get the brain alert enough to notify the body that it needs to move is a whole nother matter. Same here. Plus right now I am having to take Benadryl at night and that makes it even harder to wake up in the morning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 That is so me. It's better when I use my iphone as my alarm and I keep it right next to me when I sleep. That way it doesn't have to be loud enough to wake the whole county. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 I can appreciate that he struggles to wake up, but it can't affect US in our own home. Believe me, he isn't paying enough rent to warrant putting up with this. And we do not NEED the money, in fact, DH would like that room back. He can get a bed shaking alarm, put his phone next to him, or simply get up when he naturally wakes up. Heck, maybe not going to bed at 3am from video games would be a great start. But if this doesn't change, he can find a new location. I am DONE with it. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermom Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I feel your pain! My dd has the same issue as your renter. At least I can go into her room and ask that she turn off the alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 I DID send him a text that said, "We need to have a conversation about your alarm going off for over an hour every day. We can hear it in the office (where DH works) and from our bedroom (Where I have my office.). I am about ready to come down there and turn it off myself! And yup, I hit the send button. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, DawnM said: I DID send him a text that said, "We need to have a conversation about your alarm going off for over an hour every day. We can hear it in the office (where DH works) and from our bedroom (Where I have my office.). I am about ready to come down there and turn it off myself! And yup, I hit the send button. I'd do the southern sweet version of dealing with this. I'd just go knock on his door, loudly, until he answered. And then say, "Oh thank goodness! When I heard your alarm going off for so long I thought something had happened to you!" 4 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, ktgrok said: I'd do the southern sweet version of dealing with this. I'd just go knock on his door, loudly, until he answered. And then say, "Oh thank goodness! When I heard your alarm going off for so long I thought something had happened to you!" And I thought Brits were the masters of passive-aggressive! 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Laura Corin said: And I thought Brits were the masters of passive-aggressive! Southerners have a pretty good brand on it too. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I'd suggest he get a wearable alarm. Most of the wearable tech now has alarms that wake you silently through tapping or vibrating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livetoread Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 My dh uses white noise through the night and then his alarm is just the noise gently stopping. I have no idea how that manages to work for him but it does. It's very nice for me since I can just keep on sleeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnwife Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Well, OP, some people really do need what seems like a lot of whatever to wake up. I distinctly remember once going to wake our oldest up. He had an alarm that to me is as loud as a nuclear bomb going off (and I sleep on the other end of the house!) and absolutely slept through it. I went it, turned on the light in his room and he still slept. I literally pulled him from bed and tried to stand him up and gently shook him. And still he slept on. I gave up, put him back in bed, and turned off the alarm. (He had planned to get up earlier than absolutely necessary that day.) And he still sleeps like that. I don't get it, but now I know it's possible. Also, I don't think you can evict a renter based on an alarm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Sounds like this person is somewhere between an actual renter and a houseguest? If you don't need to rent the space it sounds like you've discovered that it isn't worth the commotion and should end the situation (depending on the agreement) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbutton Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 hours ago, DawnM said: He can get a bed shaking alarm, put his phone next to him, or simply get up when he naturally wakes up. I think those are reasonable asks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, barnwife said: Well, OP, some people really do need what seems like a lot of whatever to wake up. I distinctly remember once going to wake our oldest up. He had an alarm that to me is as loud as a nuclear bomb going off (and I sleep on the other end of the house!) and absolutely slept through it. I went it, turned on the light in his room and he still slept. I literally pulled him from bed and tried to stand him up and gently shook him. And still he slept on. I gave up, put him back in bed, and turned off the alarm. (He had planned to get up earlier than absolutely necessary that day.) And he still sleeps like that. I don't get it, but now I know it's possible. Also, I don't think you can evict a renter based on an alarm. Well, we are friends with his parents, so it CAN happen. He was supposed to stay for a couple of months while he looked for a place. Then he stayed. We were ok with it as we knew we were giving him a great deal and he is a friend of our older two sons. But if we can't sleep, he has to go. However, I do feel we can work this out. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnwife Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, DawnM said: Well, we are friends with his parents, so it CAN happen. He was supposed to stay for a couple of months while he looked for a place. Then he stayed. We were ok with it as we knew we were giving him a great deal and he is a friend of our older two sons. But if we can't sleep, he has to go. However, I do feel we can work this out. I absolutely hope you can, because if eviction would probably destroy all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 40 minutes ago, barnwife said: I absolutely hope you can, because if eviction would probably destroy all that. Eh, we aren't close enough for me to lose sleep over! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 7 hours ago, barnwife said: Well, OP, some people really do need what seems like a lot of whatever to wake up. I distinctly remember once going to wake our oldest up. He had an alarm that to me is as loud as a nuclear bomb going off (and I sleep on the other end of the house!) and absolutely slept through it. I went it, turned on the light in his room and he still slept. I literally pulled him from bed and tried to stand him up and gently shook him. And still he slept on. I gave up, put him back in bed, and turned off the alarm. (He had planned to get up earlier than absolutely necessary that day.) And he still sleeps like that. I don't get it, but now I know it's possible. Also, I don't think you can evict a renter based on an alarm. This reminded me of trying to get my brother up as kid. I remember shaking him violently, dragging him onto the floor from his bed, extracting a promise that he'd get up, then returning ten minutes later to find him snoring on the floor with the blanket pulled halfway off the bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Farrar said: This reminded me of trying to get my brother up as kid. I remember shaking him violently, dragging him onto the floor from his bed, extracting a promise that he'd get up, then returning ten minutes later to find him snoring on the floor with the blanket pulled halfway off the bed. My siblings used to throw cold water on me to wake me up. It didn't work. I still have so much trouble waking up. It's kind of amazing I ever held a job. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 17 hours ago, Quill said: My sister-in-law, who was my roommate before she was my SIL (separate bedrooms) did this too. Her alarm would start beeping at 7 or so and it would continue to beep for over an hour. Fortunately, I usually had left for work and I was up hours before her so it didn’t affect me much. But it did always seem curious to me. I believe we can train ourselves to hear an alarm or ignore it depending on our true intentions, so yes, I did always wonder why she didn’t just set the alarm for the time she truly intended to wake and then train herself to wake up at that time. So train yourself to ignore it? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 hours ago, KungFuPanda said: So train yourself to ignore it? 🤣 I mean, that would sound like calloused advice, but it is within the realm of possibility. It sounds like OP is already awake when it goes off, so it doesn’t really apply in this case. But it is possible to train your nervous system to tune out noises and place no importance on them. That’s why, if you live near a noisy thing (I live near a railroad track), you can stop being awakened by it. You train your brain to place no importance on it. I have even done a pretty “woo” thing, where I use imagery to imagine I am instructing a committee in my brain to wake up at a specific time. It works! It’s too much effort to use on the daily but it worked when, in the before-cell-phone times, I had no alarm clock with me but needed to wake to catch a bus. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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