Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I was in 11th grade when this came out and felt like they got the idea of each character from people in my HS. I thought it was a great movie for many reasons, but then I was looking at it with teen eyes and maturity. Watched it last night and was bristling with all the red flags going off... -8hr unsupervised detention -two of the kids should have been expelled for the infraction that got them -detention (gun to school and physical injury to another student) -teacher bullying to name just a few. With schools being such a police state now, detention like this would not happen (I hope). But putting all the wrongs about this movie aside, is the student population in high school still a defined grouping as stated in the movie? Are there new groupings? Side question, it was revealed at some point in the movie why each was in detention except John(?) the thug (princess went shopping, brain had a gun, jock was a bully, crazy girl had nothing else to do), why was he in detention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Elf Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Side question, it was revealed at some point in the movie why each was in detention except John(?) the thug (princess went shopping, brain had a gun, jock was a bully, crazy girl had nothing else to do), why was he in detention? He pulled the fire alarm. I'm not sure what the new groups are in high school. I'd have to ask my girls. I seem to recall oldest dd saying something about the emos when she was a freshman because she had a couple of emo friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I watched it a few years ago and it struck me as very 80s. It seemed pretty quaint and innocent. I mean, the lipstick trick? The angst over virginity? The kissing? But I sort of have a special place in my heart for those teen 80s movies. I need to watch Ferris Bueller again, and the other Molly Ringwald movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 He pulled the fire alarm. I'm not sure what the new groups are in high school. I'd have to ask my girls. I seem to recall oldest dd saying something about the emos when she was a freshman because she had a couple of emo friends. That's right, I forgot. Emo, what is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Jocks Goths Emos Sk8er boys (I think I spelled that right) Nerds and Geeks have been separated Not sure about the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 I watched it a few years ago and it struck me as very 80s. It seemed pretty quaint and innocent. I mean, the lipstick trick? The angst over virginity? The kissing? But I sort of have a special place in my heart for those teen 80s movies. I need to watch Ferris Bueller again, and the other Molly Ringwald movies. For the most part quaint and innocent, even the big bad criminal kid just pullled a fire alarm (forgot about it till pp reminded me), but the description of the bulling...to me that was far from quaint, or the brainy kid thinking suicide because he got an F...pretty heavy topics. But John Hughs seems to have captured the mind set of the 80's child, 16 Candles is an example and gives the feel of what a typical 16yr old girl was feeling no matter how silly. We seem to be on an '80's movie kick right now so guess I need to shut the adult brain off and tap into my inner teen child self again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb44 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 There must still be cheerleaders, preps, stoners, farmers/country, druggies, gangsters, band kids Love those 80's movies! They definitely had real to life aspects and some exaggeration, but overall, I think they were harmless, as people didn't seem to be committing mass murder like they are today. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in Neverland Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I can quote every single line from that movie. :D John Hughes was the best! Detention at my school is not sitting in a room. It is a few hours of hard, physical labor under the supervision of the facilities director. In public schools, bullying like that and far worse is alive and well. And there are still the popular kids, the jocks, the stoners, the band geeks, emos, etc. Not much has really changed. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 That's right, I forgot. Emo, what is that? As best I can figure back in the day we called them drama queens. And it seems that the emos have their own genre of music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedmom4 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 16 Candles was my favorite movie in high school. I probably watched it a hundred times back in the day on VHS. I probably taped it from the TV! I need to go back and watch Breakfast Club again. Is it rated R? Thanks for the trip down memory lane! Elise in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 For the most part quaint and innocent, even the big bad criminal kid just pullled a fire alarm (forgot about it till pp reminded me), but the description of the bulling...to me that was far from quaint, or the brainy kid thinking suicide because he got an F...pretty heavy topics. But John Hughs seems to have captured the mind set of the 80's child, 16 Candles is an example and gives the feel of what a typical 16yr old girl was feeling no matter how silly. We seem to be on an '80's movie kick right now so guess I need to shut the adult brain off and tap into my inner teen child self again. Yeah, you're very right about those two aspects. I forgot about those. Apparently Judd Nelson bullied Molly Ringwald on the set --?! I definitely think bullying was not taken seriously in those days. It did get an R rating, wow. I wouldn't have guessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 He pulled the fire alarm. I'm not sure what the new groups are in high school. I'd have to ask my girls. I seem to recall oldest dd saying something about the emos when she was a freshman because she had a couple of emo friends. Why do I have a niggling thought in me that the Judd Nelson character is there by choice (nothing else to do so he shows up at detention)? Is that a different movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 16 Candles was my favorite movie in high school. I probably watched it a hundred times back in the day on VHS. I probably taped it from the TV! I need to go back and watch Breakfast Club again. Is it rated R? Thanks for the trip down memory lane! Elise in NC The BC is R rated, but I think it is rated wrong, maybe PG 13. We watched 16 Candles the other night and I was :blink:, it is rated PG and has a full body naked scene with a girl in the shower while Molly R. discusses her b**bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyinLA Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 it was the Ally Sheedy character that had nothing better to do so she came to detention. The thing that always struck me was the bullying of that teacher/principal. He never tried to relate or understand; just labeled the kids - period. Judd Nelson's character was clearly abused by his father, but no one knew that; they just labeled him as trouble. Great movie for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 it was the Ally Sheedy character that had nothing better to do so she came to detention. Ah, that's right. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeslieAnneLevine Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 The BC is R rated, but I think it is rated wrong, maybe PG 13. We watched 16 Candles the other night and I was :blink:, it is rated PG and has a full body naked scene with a girl in the shower while Molly R. discusses her b**bs. I think those movies were made just a short time before the PG-13 rating was added. I remember finding the TV version entertaining, with "Eat my socks!" and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think those movies were made just a short time before the PG-13 rating was added.I remember finding the TV version entertaining, with "Eat my socks!" and the like. Aw, those are great, especially when you see the mouth moving in a totally different way. I wish I could watch the afterschool specials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Elf Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 The BC is R rated, but I think it is rated wrong, maybe PG 13. We watched 16 Candles the other night and I was :blink:, it is rated PG and has a full body naked scene with a girl in the shower while Molly R. discusses her b**bs. I know, right?? I didn't remember that from when I was a teen and I happily sat down with d14 to watch it several weeks ago. Both of our jaws hit the floor at that scene. Good grief!! This past weekend we watched Pretty in Pink. It still had s*x and drinking but it wasn't so graphic as 16 Candles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 I know, right?? I didn't remember that from when I was a teen and I happily sat down with d14 to watch it several weeks ago. Both of our jaws hit the floor at that scene. Good grief!! This past weekend we watched Pretty in Pink. It still had s*x and drinking but it wasn't so graphic as 16 Candles. We watched it with ds 16 and dd 8...dd is a little miffed her ds saw what a naked lady looks like and has been lecturing me since. Pretty and pink is next on our list. So what other '80 movies should we add to our viewing? I can only think of a few that stick out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitilin Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Oh, don't forget the John Cusack movies! Better Off Dead, and Say Anything..::001_wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Yell Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 16 Candles was my favorite movie in high school. I probably watched it a hundred times back in the day on VHS. I probably taped it from the TV! I need to go back and watch Breakfast Club again. Is it rated R? Thanks for the trip down memory lane! Elise in NC The BC is R rated, but I think it is rated wrong, maybe PG 13. We watched 16 Candles the other night and I was :blink:, it is rated PG and has a full body naked scene with a girl in the shower while Molly R. discusses her b**bs. I think those movies were made just a short time before the PG-13 rating was added.I remember finding the TV version entertaining, with "Eat my socks!" and the like. :iagree: right- don't always go by ratings. If I recall correctly, Footloose was PG. :blink: Diamond is loving the 80s movies.... favorite is Pretty in Pink. I want to let her watch Breakfast Club- was the swearing as bad as I remember? I LOVE Say Anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad 4 Boys Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 In BC, why did the brain have a fake ID in his wallet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 In BC, why did the brain have a fake ID in his wallet? So he could vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad 4 Boys Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) From 16 Candles Mom to son- "Don't you have something you want to say to your sister?" Son - "Are you kidding, where should I begin?" Mom - "Today is Sam's birthday and the whole family forgot." Son - "Ha, ha, ha.....classic" Edited October 25, 2012 by Dad 4 Boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Elf Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 So what other '80 movies should we add to our viewing? I can only think of a few that stick out there. I can't remember what we've seen, but the first ones I can think of: Weird Science Back to the Future War Games Real Science Try: 100 Greatest Movies of the 1980s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I would pay (twice!) to see a shot-for-shot remake with the surviving members of the original cast, a la Gus Van Sant's Psycho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 So what other '80 movies should we add to our viewing? I can only think of a few that stick out there. Better Off Dead with John Cusack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMD Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Isn't Emo short for emotional? As I understand it, the emo crowd is similar to goth, though more whiny :D I'm old! Now I need to watch BC again, we watched Beuller the other night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeindeed Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I love that movie. Also, Sixteen Candles and Pretty in Pink. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awisha. Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I am an 80's baby and I L.O.V.E. The Breakfast Club. It is one of two of my all time favourite movies. My other fav is The Labyrinth. Other 80's movies I can think of... Pretty in pink (love Ducky) 16 candles Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead Back to the future, Valley girl Flight of the navigator Girls just wanna have fun Rad (bmx movie) Dirty dancing Ferris buellers day off Plus heaps more I can't think of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab1 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 My DH wants to show the kids Goonies, but like most 80's movies has serious bad language in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awisha. Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Isn't Emo short for emotional? As I understand it, the emo crowd is similar to goth, though more whiny :D I'm old! Emos also have hair that covers their face, usually facial piercings, make up/nail polish (eventhe guys!!!), some are cutters, they wear tight black jeans and are generally whiny, angry, wo-is-me etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeindeed Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Adventures in Babysitting...but it has language, too. I remember one line: "Don't f--- with the babysitter." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbeym Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I can't remember what we've seen, but the first ones I can think of: Weird Science Back to the Future War Games Real Science Try: 100 Greatest Movies of the 1980s My very first date at the young age of 10 was to see War Games. And no, my mom had no idea that my boy friend's mom was only dropping us off and not staying with us. I am so saving that link! Better Off Dead with John Cusack. I :001_wub: Better Off Dead. The kids and I laugh our heads off every time we watch it. One of my favorites from the 80s was For Keeps. Or at least I think that's what it was called. It starred Molly R. as a pregnant teen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joules Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Loved all those movies I really need to rent them again. I've been watching Anthony Michael Hall's Dead Zone series. Ally Sheedy guest stars as an "old high school friend" and it really took me back. (It was supposed to, of course, they had a reunion in the library and it was full of the 80s tunes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baseball mom Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 From 16 Candles Mom to son- "Don't you have something you want to say to your sister?" Son - "Are you kidding, where should I begin?" Mom - "Today is Sam's birthday and the whole family forgot." Son - "Ha, ha, ha.....classic" :lol: I can't remember what we've seen, but the first ones I can think of: Weird Science Back to the Future War Games Real Science Try: 100 Greatest Movies of the 1980s Thanks for the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderchica Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Emos also have hair that covers their face, usually facial piercings, make up/nail polish (eventhe guys!!!), some are cutters, they wear tight black jeans and are generally whiny, angry, wo-is-me etc. To be fair, some cheerleaders and nerds [insert any stereotype] are cutters too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Adventures in Babysitting...but it has language, too. I remember one line: "Don't f--- with the babysitter." When I was at Target the other day, someone in the next aisle was ranting about what a great movie that is. I have rather fond memories of it myself. You know, we were shown Howard the Duck at school. It has nudity in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 My favorite is Pretty in Pink. Although how she could afford an Alpine stereo for her car, I'll never know. As a redhead, I am a big Molly Ringwald fan. Not for young kids, but I love St.Elmo's Fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I watched it a few years ago and it struck me as very 80s. It seemed pretty quaint and innocent. I mean, the lipstick trick? The angst over virginity? The kissing? But I sort of have a special place in my heart for those teen 80s movies. I need to watch Ferris Bueller again, and the other Molly Ringwald movies. :iagree: Pretty in Pink and Breakfast Club were my favorites. I still can quote them almost verbatim. I always looked forward to watching these with my boys when they get older. I think they will have lost their magic by then and I will just get, "oh, mom, what a lame movie". Breaks my 80's heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I was never a fan of The Breakfast Club and felt like the stereotypes of the different cliques were exaggerated and kind of silly. And of course the adults are all mean and/or clueless. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Mom Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 For me, the Brat Pack movies were just "ok". I loved St. Elmo's Fire though. When I think back to the 80s, I think of Nightmare on Elm Street, Top Gun, and Dirty Dancing. God help me here, but I bought tickets to Rick Springfield's Hard to Hold three weekends in a row when it first hit theaters. A few years ago, my dad gave me the DVD for Christmas. I don't think I've even taken the shrink wrap off of it. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I thought Judd Nelson looked very old and SCARY in that movie. But I also disliked the balding Luke Perry in Beverly Hills 90210. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 For me, the Brat Pack movies were just "ok". I loved St. Elmo's Fire though. When I think back to the 80s, I think of Nightmare on Elm Street, Top Gun, and Dirty Dancing. God help me here, but I bought tickets to Rick Springfield's Hard to Hold three weekends in a row when it first hit theaters. A few years ago, my dad gave me the DVD for Christmas. I don't think I've even taken the shrink wrap off of it. LOL I watch Dirty Dancing every time I come across it. We had our sorority formal at Mountain Lake Resort in the "Nobody puts Baby in a corner" room. I also love Top Gun. One of these days Goose is going to survive the flat spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in Neverland Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Adventures in Babysitting...but it has language, too. I remember one line: "Don't f--- with the babysitter." I love that movie!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomen Nescio Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I was with them all the way with The Breakfast Club, being myself an angsty teenager. Sure, I didn't actually find the stereotypes to accurately portray the kinds of people I met in high school. But I was sympathetic to the characters as they were. Right up until somebody said, "Maybe when you grow up your heart just dies." Even the brooding self-righteous child that I was I threw my hands up, "Oh, for crying out loud!" Otherwise, you know, an enjoyable film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancer67 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 BC was one of my favorite movies in the 80's. I was in high school then. Others: Flashdance Risky Business National Lampoons Vacation Ferris Bueller 16 Candles Pretty in Pink E.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cin Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Breakfast Club was so good. I thought the stereotypes were perfect, at least according to my general area. But I was at the bottom of the food chain in High School, so the jocks probably looked more jockish, and the preps more preppy. Ally Sheedy's character and I were a lot alike, aside from our choice of beverage. I was 'A Pepper'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivka Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I loved Some Kind of Wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bassoon Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 My favorite is Pretty in Pink. Although how she could afford an Alpine stereo for her car, I'll never know. As a redhead, I am a big Molly Ringwald fan. Not a redhead here, but I loved Molly Ringwald. When my girls put on the American Girl Molly movie, it always makes me do a double-take that she plays the mom! I mean, hey, I'm still a teenager. . .isn't she, too? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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