Kirch Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Sending positive pregnancy thoughts your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhomemaker25 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 My thoughts and prayers are with you! I'm just going to keep believing that this is your sticky baby!! :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindergretta Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Oh crap. :( I am praying. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Praying that baby is still snug in there and this is just more of the bleeding from the implantation. With my youngest I bled from like 6 weeks right until I delivered her. It was terrifying the entire time but she was snug in there. The fact it is not showing up on the pad, and is turning brownish is a good sign. Brown means old so likely everything is okay, and luckily you have that u/s already booked for Wednesday. I will be praying that the bleeding stops and that you have no more scares and can see that little bean with a strong heartbeat on wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jujsky Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) I'm surprised with your history of previous miscarriages they're not giving you an ultrasound. They can at 6 weeks. They gave me one at 6 weeks when I was pregnant with DD just to make sure things were where they should be because I had a previous pregnancy loss. A few days after the u/s, I woke up bleeding and they gave me another u/s. They could tell from the u/s that where the placenta attached to the uterus had torn away from the wall a tiny bit. They said that was not uncommon, it would cause spotting, to avoid sex, and they gave me a progesterone suppository. Within a week and a half I was no longer spotting and the rest of my pregnancy progressed normally. I hope it's something simple like that with you too. If the spotting is slowing down and what you're seeing now is "old blood" that's a good sign from what I understand. :grouphug: Edited to add: Just read your update. My bleeding was similar to that -- new blood, old blood, new blood, old blood. It's not uncommon. It IS scary though! I'm wishing you and your little nugget all the best and sending sticky vibes your way. Edited September 1, 2012 by jujsky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Thank you, everyone. So I had updated that it was reddish again before I went to bed. Got up around 6 AM and was paranoid I was going to find blood on the pad, but nothing there. When I wiped, brown spotting. Still unsure what to think. I am already taking progesterone (orally). I haven't been doing anything particularly strenuous. My dr did not see me yesterday and just sent me to the lab and then had me rest and wait to see what happens. It's now a holiday weekend so I'm sure they won't be in until Tuesday. My appt and ultrasound are scheduled for Wednesday. I guess my plan for today is continue to rest as much as possible and hope there's no fresh or worse bleeding today. I guess depending on how it goes today I may have to call the dr to see if I'm supposed to go get a shot of Rhogam since I am RH Negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amo_mea_filiis. Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabel Lee Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Praying for you & the little one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6wishes Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Praying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Decided to come to ER just to be proactive. I figure I may need Rhogam (RH negative), that they can give me my beta results from yesterday (used hospital lab), and that maybe I can get them to do a scan to rule anything in or out and if I'm lucky help ease my mind. Or at least let me know whether I should be freaking or not. Waiting to be called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeindeed Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Praying for you and baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenC3 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Praying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Saw dr- he's going to get me yesterday's beta results and repeat test again now to see if still going up, he's going to give me Rhogam, and he's going to send me for ultrasound to see how everything looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Saw dr- he's going to get me yesterday's beta results and repeat test again now to see if still going up, he's going to give me Rhogam, and he's going to send me for ultrasound to see how everything looks. :grouphug: See about getting those progesterone supplements. I have you and wee one in my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug:See about getting those progesterone supplements. I have you and wee one in my heart. I am already on 200 mg a day orally. Well, they just drew like six vials of blood and now I'm waiting for my ultrasound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Kate Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Saw dr- he's going to get me yesterday's beta results and repeat test again now to see if still going up, he's going to give me Rhogam, and he's going to send me for ultrasound to see how everything looks. Good to hear. Let us know!:grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rain Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I am already on 200 mg a day orally. Well, they just drew like six vials of blood and now I'm waiting for my ultrasound! :grouphug: I'm glad you won't have to wait through the long weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i.love.lucy Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug::lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momof3littles Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) I am already on 200 mg a day orally. Well, they just drew like six vials of blood and now I'm waiting for my ultrasound! Nance-oral progesterone isn't that effective IIRC. I used crinone gel in my first pregnancy (infertility treatment with RE who did crinone (vaginal progesterone gel) prophylactically for most of her pcos patients undergoing treatment at that time). With my 2nd pregnancy, my levels came back at a 6, which is terrible. I didn't have a regular doc as we had just moved. I had to call and beg for progesterone testing with my hcg testing, and they did that for me. Once my progesterone came back really low, I had to beg for supplementation...I don't think they really said anything, other than what my levels were. Once they agreed to the progesterone RX, my instructions were to take prometrium orally. I opted to use it vaginally. Look into the oral vs. vaginal. I don't want to give you medical advice or contradict your doctor, but I would investigate how well oral vs. vaginal works. When I looked into it 6 years ago while pg with DD, my conclusion was that taking it orally was less effective for my purposes than taking it vaginally. I've usually had to order the crinone at my pharmacy, so we used the progesterone capsules vaginally as a stop gap measure in the meantime. Crinone is typically pretty expensive. Many women insert the actual oral capsules vaginally. That's what I did until I got crinone. I had the crinone in advance with my first pregnancy as my doc had me order it so I had it ready. Ask to have your progesterone retested if you get a repeat beta hcg. Thinking of you and hoping for the best. Edited September 1, 2012 by Momof3littles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedmom4 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Glad the ER is getting to the bottom of what is going on. I'm sure you won't have any peace until you know. Praying for good news!! God Bless, Elise in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I am already on 200 mg a day orally. Well, they just drew like six vials of blood and now I'm waiting for my ultrasound! I keep checking in. See if they can switch you to suppositories. The oral ones do not absorb the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropymama Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 I really don't think that went well to be honest. She was like "just so you know even if everything's fine the dr has to be the one to tell you." I said, "I know it might be too early but if you do notice a heartbeat would you be able to point that out?" and she said yeah. So after a while, she said, "there's really nothing to show you." I said, "is there a sac?" She said, "there's a sac but really nothing showing in it." I didn't press for more details because I know she's not allowed to talk to me about it but she didn't even mention seeing a fetal pole or anything. So now I'm thinking it's a blighted ovum or something. I don't know. Just waiting for dr to come talk to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Hon, I have to tell you that w/Tazzie, I was a freaking wreck. I went for THREE u/s before they were able to find anything. I'd had an ectopic, so *needed* to know if babe was in the right place or not. So, just b/c she didn't say she saw anything might not mean diddly. Praying for you. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbeltmom Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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freeindeed Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I really don't think that went well to be honest. She was like "just so you know even if everything's fine the dr has to be the one to tell you." I said, "I know it might be too early but if you do notice a heartbeat would you be able to point that out?" and she said yeah. So after a while, she said, "there's really nothing to show you." I said, "is there a sac?" She said, "there's a sac but really nothing showing in it." I didn't press for more details because I know she's not allowed to talk to me about it but she didn't even mention seeing a fetal pole or anything. So now I'm thinking it's a blighted ovum or something. I don't know. Just waiting for dr to come talk to me. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 He just came in. Not good news. He said there was a small yolk sac but that it is not in the right spot in the uterus but in the endometrial canal just below the uterus and above the cervix and that this does likely mean it is moving down in the process of a miscarriage that hasn't completed yet and that it is unlikely it could develop normally where it is now. Though he says it is not an ectopic. My betas did rise from yesterday- the were like 3,000 yesterday and 5,000 today (I think they should have been at least 6,000 today if they had kept doubling every time) *and he wants me to repeat them tomorrow, but at this point it just seems like I'm waiting for a m/c to complete. :( It'll be my third loss in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhomemaker25 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I am so very sorry. I was truly hoping for you. :grouphug: I wish there was something else I could say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug: I am very sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I'm so sorry :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 The #s are about right though, Nance. They're to dbl every 48 hrs, not 24. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissad2 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: I'm so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2bdeutmeyer Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Ugh.....I'm so sorry. This is exactly what I was hoping you wouldn't hear. Like a previous poster, I wish there was something more I could say...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 The #s are about right though, Nance. They're to dbl every 48 hrs, not 24. :grouphug: I know- they were 370 on 8/24 so if they doubled every two days from there it would have been at least 5,920 today. Between that and the spotting and the ultrasound results- I just don't feel any hope. They did page my OB to ask if I should stay on the progesterone and she said yes and that she's seen this before and I might not m/c but I think that's just false hope. She said she was "hopeful" and "optimistic" last time too after the too small gestational sac but everything I read indicated bad news and I lost it the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatherwith4 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: I'm sorry. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I know- they were 370 on 8/24 so if they doubled every two days from there it would have been at least 5,920 today. Between that and the spotting and the ultrasound results- I just don't feel any hope. They did page my OB to ask if I should stay on the progesterone and she said yes and that she's seen this before and I might not m/c but I think that's just false hope. She said she was "hopeful" and "optimistic" last time too after the too small gestational sac but everything I read indicated bad news and I lost it the next day. I had a complete breakdown when I got levels that didn't dbl, went for an u/s the next day. Princess is turning 6 this mth. Praying for a miracle :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytwomonkeys Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-2-7 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: I also am praying for a miracle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenC3 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Oh Nance:( :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DianeW88 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I'm so sorry....I've been there. You may want to consider seeing a miscarriage specialist. I was fortunate in that the best one in the country happens to be in Utah. If you're anywhere nearby and want an appointment, PM me for his name and number. Any miscarriage specialist should do an anti-phospholipid panel (blood test) as well as test you for auto immune disorders and a few other things. You want all those tests to be negative, btw. And they most likely will be. As my specialist told me, the overwhelming majority of miscarriages occur because of a chromosome disorder or some other defect to the fetus that is incompatible with life. All the progesterone in the world will not fix that or change it. All the lying in bed with your feet up won't change that. All the herbal remedies you can swallow won't change the outcome. In short, there is nothing you did or didn't do that would have prevented this...or any other miscarriage. In my case, we figured out that the problem was a genetic defect on my husband's side. We took a family history survey and found that all the women who had married into his side of the family (and were therefore unrelated to each other) had all suffered multiple miscarriages (four or more). Based on that and with some other information, he concluded that the defect was most likely chromosomal and that my miscarriage rate for any given pregnancy was 50% or higher. So, I gave birth to 3 healthy babies and lost 5 (four miscarriages in a row, but the last was twins). With that reality, I knew that a positive pregnancy test would most likely NOT mean a subsequent live birth for me. So I never even considered myself pregnant until well into my second trimester with my next attempt. I just assumed it would be a miscarriage. That made it easier to deal with because I wasn't mentally invested in the pregnancy. It resulted in the birth of my son, and then I was done. I'll also add that I took nothing (no progesterone, no baby aspirin, no extra vitamins or herbal remedies...nothing) special or different during my last successful pregnancy than I had during the pregnancies that ended in miscarriage. Recurrent miscarriage is a joy stealer and I was tired of the emotional rollercoaster I'd been on, so I was done after the birth of my last child. I'm so sorry for your loss. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Nancy, I'm so sorry. Please tell me that your doctor is the best high risk ob that you can go to. You have lost too many babies and I can't even imagine what you are feeling right now. I knew someone years ago....she had a terrible time completing a pregnancy. She changed doctors (went to larger city about an hour away to a very well know high risk/infertility specialist ob) and she said it was a world of difference. There are so many things to check, progesterone levels, TSH (thyroid, has to stay at 1.0), length of cycles so there is time to implant, etc. I may be a bit off on my wording because it has been awhile, but there is a lot you need to have checked and rechecked so you can go to term with your pregnancies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Kate Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Oh, I am so sorry. Like everyone else, I was really hoping for better news. I will continue to pray for you. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: I'm so sorry, Nance. As Diane and Susan have already recommended, I hope you will see a high-risk pregnancy specialist to find out what's going on, so that hopefully you will be able to prevent more heartache. I can honestly say that I would not have my ds if I hadn't gone to an incredible high risk specialist. I absolutely believe that I owe my ds's life to him. You've been through so much. I was praying that this time was going to be perfect for you. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Florida Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Keeping you in my thoughts, Nance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlmom Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: I've had bleeding with my last 2 pregnancies. With my most recent one (dd is now 7 weeks old) I had a lot of very heavy bleeding. I bled for about 7-8 weeks and for about a week of that it was heavier than any period I've ever had. I had multiple u/s and there was never a cause found. Both pregnancies ended up being fine. I have a "frayable uterus". I'm sure it won't calm your mind at all because I was a nervous wreck even though I knew I had a history of it, but hopefully yours is nothing to be worried about either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumto2 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: I am so sorry. Hopefully my advice will be unnecessary but... If it is a miscarriage and you end up with a D and C request genetic testing. We did and that really helped us to make decisions. When I was younger the tests came back perfect and we were able to work with a specialist which resulted in 2 sucessful pregnancies. My last 2 pregnancies had defects. It sounds really cold when I say it but after 4 miscarriages I decided that I couldn't keep trying at 42. I had spent several years exhausted from trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rain Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 :grouphug: I'm sorry, Nance. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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