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Entropymama

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  1. Lisa, I'm so very sorry. I will be adding my prayers for you and your family.
  2. Yes. We homeschooled for nine years and then put them all in school (I have 5 school age). It was very, very difficult and I felt strongly that I had failed by having to send them. The local homeschooling community did not help with that. I spent most of the first month in bed during school hours watching movies and drinking lots of coffee. Then I cleaned out all my kitchen cabinets and started volunteering at the school and took up writing again and you know what? They did great. It turned into a really good thing. And then it all went south and we're homeschooling again now and while there are really good things about that, too, we all kind of miss school. So you never know. Just remember that for all the benefits of homeschooling, there are benefits to a good public school, too. My kids found their voices when they got to be away from me for most of the day. And I found mine.
  3. We pulled our kids from PS last month and I'm looking for some kind of fun science to take us through the end of the year. The science class at their school was pure textbook with no labs or anything, and they'd really like to do some hands on stuff. Any thoughts?
  4. Entropymama

    Sad

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  5. We've tried to move BACK to Seattle to be near family for years, so I absolutely get that. It's tough to be away. OTOH, we got a job offer in San Fran for $200,000/year (more than 100% more than what we make now) and it still didn't make sense to move because we'd end up in some crappy condo and with 6 kids that's not happening.
  6. Way to go! That's fantastic. I would love to read it, and my 42 blog readers will be regaled with tales of it. :laugh: I'll PM you.
  7. Well, if you ever feel like moving out East, we bought a 6 bedroom split level for 280,000. Good schools, too! The flyover states are the best. So back to the original conversation ... I don't understand this idea of holding kids back and keeping them children, either. We attended a meeting about PSEO (our state's program for high school students to take college credits during high school and get dual credit - and it's paid for.) The administration of the high school was basically like, "Yeah, it saves money and all that, but why make kids grow up faster than they need to? Let them be kids and enjoy high school! Why would you want them to be around adults all day, anyway?" I don't understand that attitude. Like prom and spirit week are more important than getting a jump on a successful life. IDK.
  8. Lucy - I think I remember you're in Seattle? I grew up there, was born in Skyway, actually. Yes, things have changed drastically there. My dad worked for Boeing in the 80's and my mom stayed at home. We lived in Kent and Covington in good neighborhoods and reasonably nice homes on his one income (he was in management but didn't have a degree). Five years ago, my cousin and his wife bought a small but nice home in Bothell and paid almost half a million dollars for it. It's gone up quite a bit since then. He's a PR consultant and she's a PA and there's no way they could live there if one of them quit their job to stay home with the kids. So your experience may be a bit colored because Seattle is somewhat on the extreme end of inflation. But it's true everywhere. When DH and I got married in 2000, I worked as a receptionist and he worked as a pastoral assistant and we were able to rent a one bedroom apartment for $600/month which included all utilities - even cable! We bought new furniture, took on a car payment, went on a Disneyland vacation for our first anniversary. Not really great financial choices, but all doable even though together we made less than $20/hour. Now I have a 16 yo DD and I have no idea how she'll make it on her own. A one bedroom apartment here starts around $1200, no utilities included, and everything from groceries to gas has gone up, not to mention insurance. Without a degree I can't fathom where she'd get a job paying more than $15/hour, and to live on her own she'll need a roommate. And I now live in Minnesota, so not exactly HCOL. Things really have changed a great deal.
  9. Also, it seems only a minority of them want to go vigilante and protect the schools regardless of whether they want protecting. The guy from New York seemed very level headed. Unnecessary.
  10. How so? (Real question - no snark) This is the million dollar question and I think it comes down to, on the one side, extremely high emotions over the deaths of innocent youths, and on the other side (the word side being used loosely here) a feeling of being personally attacked when innocent. I actually am coming to understand these gun owners who appear to have knee-jerk reactions against gun control - they feel they are being criticized and accused when they've done nothing wrong. The more I read and research, the more treating guns like cars makes sense. Cars, when used responsibly, are incredibly useful personally and professionally and can even be fun! They can also, in the wrong hands, be very dangerous. Like guns, cars are actually rarely used for mass murder, but are effective when used that way. Much more likely, cars kill people accidentally, when the people using them are being careless or have been drinking. If my car is stolen, I certainly want the police to help me track it down both so that I can get it back and so that if it's used in a crime I won't be held liable. I am required by law to take safety classes and prove that I can handle my vehicle in a responsible and skilled way before I am allowed to take it out in public, and I can have that privilege revoked if I prove myself unable to handle the responsibility. I kind of understand the argument that we need guns to protect us against the government. But if the government really wanted to control us (more than they do already?) and take away our liberties, confiscating our cars would be a pretty effective way of doing so. It would essentially pin each of us into a 20 mile radius, maybe less. Or they could stop our internet services. Or nuke us, IDK.
  11. You specifically said, "It's the most rational plan in an irrational world." I think we're reacting to that statement. I don't think it's the most rational plan, because of the reasons I already outlined.
  12. Pam, I'm still out of likes but I love your last post.
  13. I haven't gotten my likes back, but I agree. Is it not? I'm asking a real question here, because I know lots of gun owners who have never hurt anyone. I am not suggesting you are wrong, but I am wondering if there is any statistical evidence available. Is there a correlation between gun owners and gun violence? Does violence occur at a higher rate in the homes of gun owners than the general public? (Taking into account the fact that lots of gun violence is gang related, and domestic violence related). If so, does gun ownership foster violence or simply give violent people accessible means? Are violent people more likely to buy guns? It would be an interesting thing to study. Let's think through this (the bolded). Teachers are already trained on what to do in a lock down situation, which includes the first part of your plan - get the kids to safety. After securing their classrooms, they are then supposed to access a safe, put on a Kevlar vest, retrieve the weapon (all under extreme stress). How long does this take? 2-3 minutes to secure the classroom, 30 seconds to access the safe, 1 minute to put on the vest ... By the time that five minutes are up, the shooting is over. And you're asking the teacher, who is safe in his or her classroom, to now open the door (!) and leave a class full of (young!) children to go looking for a violent criminal. I am actually in the process of opening a charter school, and I can tell you in no uncertain terms that there is no way a school is going to mandate teachers be armed. It's a massive risk, an insurance nightmare, and a deterrent to families interested in enrollment and teachers interested in jobs. Allowing teachers who wanted to CC might be an option, and is already done in some places, but across the board too few families are comfortable with the idea to make it a wide spread solution.
  14. I have run out of likes for the first time ever. What we say on this forum isn't going to effect whether we have a job next year. :laugh: Great! But we all know there are plenty of gun owners who are NOT model gun owners like you. I absolutely understand why someone like you would be chafed that you have to follow rules meant for those who need them when you don't. If we are going to allow lethal weapons in common society (which we clearly are) we must have regulations to keep them out of the hands of the non-model owners. And that's the foundation for the gun control crowd. This is a very clear way of articulating an interesting and disturbing point. I have some serious thinking to do on this one. But - other countries have divorce, abortion, violent video games, etc. What is different about America that is leading to this epidemic? I can't agree with this without evidence. Did he have more ammo or another weapon that he was going to get so he could shoot more students? It appears he was finished and was running away. You can 'assume' he would shoot more students, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence to back it up. This. I hate to say it but I fear it's only a matter of time before a young black man is shot by a teacher because he was acting threatening. If police officers have been known to shoot at people because they were 'startled', how can we expect teachers to do better? This I haven't heard of. That seems like an interesting development.
  15. Boy, I got a little behind on this thread and it took me three days to catch up! I just want to interject with appreciation for everyone who is taking the time and effort to contribute to this conversation. I have learned so much from this thread and the research it has led me to. There has been a minimum of snark and sarcasm, even when emotions are running high. I spent about five minutes on Facebook and came running back here feeling traumatized. So thanks everyone. You all give me faith in humanity. We will figure this out.
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