kalanamak Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 The foreskin is a body part. We don't go around slicing off parts of ourselves to win mates. Ask any woman with implants. Or nose jobs. They didn't do it to become better archers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 :lol::lol::lol::lol: My favorite f*reskin story is hubby's. When we found out we were getting a boy, he wanted him circumsized just like him. Well, Mr Innocent, just because you walk around all day with your windowshades UP doesn't mean you are circ'd. He DIDn't KNOW he wasn't! Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!! :lol::smilielol5: Roflol. I'm wondering the same thing. And she seems to have waffled about whether the initial question was about the potential husband and *his* p*nis or about potential sons and what to do with *theirs*. Perhaps she thinks this is the same thing?!? My dh is circ'd, but our son is intact. So, it doesn't necessarily follow that dad's state indicates a preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoVanGogh Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Oh, my goodness. This thread has been so funny! I can't read as fast as y'all are typing! My favorite f*reskin story is hubby's. When we found out we were getting a boy, he wanted him circumsized just like him. Well, Mr Innocent, just because you walk around all day with your windowshades UP doesn't mean you are circ'd. He DIDn't KNOW he wasn't! You actually brought up something I wanted to honestly ask. I know it will get buried in this thread, but - here goes...I was with a man who didn't know he was. :001_huh: Topic came up after we had dated a long time and he said he wasn't but his brother was. I have no idea if his brother was or wasn't, but this man certainly was but he had gone through life thinking he wasn't. (He was a rocket scientist type, so super-smart, but not one to hang out in a locker room.) And my sister had to explain to her high school home ec teacher (and the class) what it meant and what the difference was when they covered that lesson in some family class she took. (My sister was a teen mother of a cir'c boy so had first-hand knowledge. Teacher was totally clueless!) Both incidences makes me wonder how much most people really know about that part of the body. :001_huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Object lesson? Or withdrawing from the battlefield when the foe is united in opposition? That's what I'm wondering, too. I took a break from the computer to get something to eat, and I started thinking that the OP's feelings were probably hurt by all of the comments we'd made, and I was ready to post an apology to her. I was going to suggest that in the future, if she wanted to start this type of thread (something well outside of the mainstream,) it would be best to include in the thread title that the question was only for members of a specific religious denomination or believers in a certain way of thinking. I was also going to tell her that when you don't provide enough details, people will invent their own, so it's important to be specific if you want serious, helpful answers. After reading her "it was an object lesson" post, I'm just not sure any more. It didn't sound as though she was joking -- in fact, I thought she seemed a bit insulted by the rest of us in her subsequent posts where she thanked people who'd responded seriously to her question -- and if she posted her thread just to see what people would say (without bothering to mention that the whole thing was entirely hypothetical,) I think that's in very poor taste. Perhaps it was even in poorer taste than my responses to this thread, but the jury is still out on that. I can't imagine what possible "object lesson" was intended here, and I would very much appreciate it if the OP would return to this thread and explain herself, because at this particular moment, I'm not thinking too highly of her. I would like that to change, because I truly think she was asking a serious question and we offended her, but I can't apologize to someone who might have only been pulling our chains. What does everyone else think about this? Am I over-reacting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 My dh is circ'd, but our son is intact. So, it doesn't necessarily follow that dad's state indicates a preference. Ack. What if my circ'd son's cir-dependent (girlfriend? fiance?) decided to set up a "like-minded" friend with one of my other sons?! Guess she'd be in for a surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 So we're up to three signs of the apocalypse now? Gotta remember to start a list. I wonder what the Mayan position on circ was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 If the true courtship model is being followed, the young lady should never know the difference between circ'ed and uncirc'ed parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Of course you could ask your date to wear a kilt, traditional style, and take him out on a breezy day. Edited January 16, 2012 by elegantlion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 :blink: Ummm....the honeymoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Of course you could ask your date to wear a kilt, traditional style, and take him out on a breezy day. I already suggested a passing train! Skimmer!! ;):lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 If the true courtship model is being followed, the young lady should never know the difference between circ'ed and uncirc'ed parts. That's an interesting statement. My girls know the difference, even at their young ages, because I tell them what it is when we come across the word in our bible reading. Well, I know my oldest knows and understands the mechanics, my middle knows but probably can't actually picture it, and my youngest has heard me talk about it but probably doesn't remember or care. Anyway, do you think families following a "true" courtship model don't discuss circumcision at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 That's what I'm wondering, too. I took a break from the computer to get something to eat, and I started thinking that the OP's feelings were probably hurt by all of the comments we'd made, and I was ready to post an apology to her. I was going to suggest that in the future, if she wanted to start this type of thread (something well outside of the mainstream,) it would be best to include in the thread title that the question was only for members of a specific religious denomination or believers in a certain way of thinking. I was also going to tell her that when you don't provide enough details, people will invent their own, so it's important to be specific if you want serious, helpful answers. After reading her "it was an object lesson" post, I'm just not sure any more. It didn't sound as though she was joking -- in fact, I thought she seemed a bit insulted by the rest of us in her subsequent posts where she thanked people who'd responded seriously to her question -- and if she posted her thread just to see what people would say (without bothering to mention that the whole thing was entirely hypothetical,) I think that's in very poor taste. Perhaps it was even in poorer taste than my responses to this thread, but the jury is still out on that. I can't imagine what possible "object lesson" was intended here, and I would very much appreciate it if the OP would return to this thread and explain herself, because at this particular moment, I'm not thinking too highly of her. I would like that to change, because I truly think she was asking a serious question and we offended her, but I can't apologize to someone who might have only been pulling our chains. What does everyone else think about this? Am I over-reacting? No, you aren't. I'm absolutely clueless and flabbergasted at the same time. I think that is why many of us respond the way we do. It's a "what?! are you kidding?" and then self preservation, to not over react, to introduce humor. It's definitely not something I have ever run across in any courtship circles I've known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I already suggested a passing train! Skimmer!! ;):lol: :lol::lol: Busted How about a Shakespeare pun? Be fore or not be fore, that is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 :blink: Ummm....the honeymoon? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 :lol::lol: Busted How about a Shakespeare pun? Be fore or not be fore, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in the soul to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous foreskins or to take arms against a sea of penes and by the snipping, end them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anyway, do you think families following a "true" courtship model don't discuss circumcision at all? But, would they have seen enough adult males to have developed an opinion? Especially in a particular state? I certainly had no opinion, even though I knew what the word meant (thank you, Biblical foreskin mountain, that was really cruel killing them after that, IMO). :lol::lol: Busted How about a Shakespeare pun? Be fore or not be fore, that is the question. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganClassicalPrep Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 As the mother of a daughter, all I have to say is: :lol::lol::lol::lol: Thread of the year, definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 That's an interesting statement. My girls know the difference, even at their young ages, because I tell them what it is when we come across the word in our bible reading. Well, I know my oldest knows and understands the mechanics, my middle knows but probably can't actually picture it, and my youngest has heard me talk about it but probably doesn't remember or care. Anyway, do you think families following a "true" courtship model don't discuss circumcision at all? Well I understand what circumcision is logistically, but I have no idea what an uncircumcised p*nis would even look like. I've never seen a guy naked that wasn't. Now I'm curious. Off to google and praying my husband doesn't find this search in the history later :D :auto: and that I don't pull up porn sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Whether 'tis nobler in the soul to sufferthe slings and arrows of outrageous foreskins or to take arms against a sea of penes and by the snipping, end them. Well, aren't you quite the poet! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Whether 'tis nobler in the soul to sufferthe slings and arrows of outrageous foreskins or to take arms against a sea of penes and by the snipping, end them. :lol::lol: O, Romeo, Romeo, where for art thy foreskin, Romeo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 My favorite f*reskin story is hubby's. When we found out we were getting a boy, he wanted him circumsized just like him. Well, Mr Innocent, just because you walk around all day with your windowshades UP doesn't mean you are circ'd. He DIDn't KNOW he wasn't! :lol: I actually know a man that wore his turtleneck the same way. And he too thought he was circumcised. :001_huh: :lol: Oh, my goodness. This thread has been so funny! I can't read as fast as y'all are typing! You actually brought up something I wanted to honestly ask. I know it will get buried in this thread, but - here goes... I was with a man who didn't know he was. :001_huh: Topic came up after we had dated a long time and he said he wasn't but his brother was. I have no idea if his brother was or wasn't, but this man certainly was but he had gone through life thinking he wasn't. (He was a rocket scientist type, so super-smart, but not one to hang out in a locker room.) And my sister had to explain to her high school home ec teacher (and the class) what it meant and what the difference was when they covered that lesson in some family class she took. (My sister was a teen mother of a cir'c boy so had first-hand knowledge. Teacher was totally clueless!) Both incidences makes me wonder how much most people really know about that part of the body. :001_huh: Maybe I'm slow, but I missed the question in this post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (He was a rocket scientist type, so super-smart, but not one to hang out in a locker room.) That's it! Have the girl's brother go to the gym with him and "hang out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Well I understand what circumcision is logistically, but I have no idea what an uncircumcised p*nis would even look like. I've never seen a guy naked that wasn't. Now I'm curious. Off to google and praying my husband doesn't find this search in the history later :D :auto: and that I don't pull up porn sites. You're totally going to pull up porn sites. And please remember the forum rule that states that you are morally obligated (or immorally obligated, as the case may be,) to post links to any "good stuff" you happen to come across. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellydon Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 That's an interesting statement. My girls know the difference, even at their young ages, because I tell them what it is when we come across the word in our bible reading. Well, I know my oldest knows and understands the mechanics, my middle knows but probably can't actually picture it, and my youngest has heard me talk about it but probably doesn't remember or care. Anyway, do you think families following a "true" courtship model don't discuss circumcision at all? I think that the concept of it might come up, but visualizing what that actually, really and truly looks like and how that body part would function in an uncirced way vs. a circ'ed way in a intimate relationship wouldn't be discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Ask any woman with implants. Or nose jobs. They didn't do it to become better archers. I didn't mean "we" as in the human race. I meant it more in the royal sense. "We" as in me and all my kinfolks. (I'm guessing. I don't know anything about the status of my male relatives' private parts. I just know we're not the type to put up with questions about things like that!) :TD looks for a hillbilly-with-rifle smilie: This'll do: Granny says, "What's that? You're here to talk about Jethro's what?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Maybe I'm slow, but I missed the question in this post... It was covered up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Maybe I'm slow, but I missed the question in this post... It was this implied question: Both incidences makes me wonder how much most people really know about that part of the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Well I understand what circumcision is logistically, but I have no idea what an uncircumcised p*nis would even look like. I've never seen a guy naked that wasn't. Now I'm curious. Off to google and praying my husband doesn't find this search in the history later :D :auto: and that I don't pull up porn sites. Oh, my word. STOP! Don't do this! You will only get porn sites. Go to the mayo clinic site, or webmd. or something. Don't google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I don't know anything about the status of my male relatives' private parts. Maybe you could get your father to ask them. :tongue_smilie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Man: "Who are your heroes?"Woman: "Abraham. He circumcised himself." Yeah, that whole do it yourself thing really appeals to the homesteader in all of us...not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Granny says, "What's that? You're here to talk about Jethro's what?" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 But, would they have seen enough adult males to have developed an opinion? Especially in a particular state? I certainly had no opinion, even though I knew what the word meant (thank you, Biblical foreskin mountain, that was really cruel killing them after that, IMO). :lol: Well I understand what circumcision is logistically, but I have no idea what an uncircumcised p*nis would even look like. I've never seen a guy naked that wasn't. Now I'm curious. Off to google and praying my husband doesn't find this search in the history later :D :auto: and that I don't pull up porn sites. I think that the concept of it might come up, but visualizing what that actually, really and truly looks like and how that body part would function in an uncirced way vs. a circ'ed way in a intimate relationship wouldn't be discussed. Sorry I misunderstood. I thought Sheldon meant that they should have no knowledge of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It was this implied question:Both incidences makes me wonder how much most people really know about that part of the body. OK. Clearly I'm just too tired for thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Well, aren't you quite the poet! :D Gosh, I tried to get up to "a consummation devoutly to be wished" but it went X-rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yeah, that whole do it yourself thing really appeals to the homesteader in all of us...not *snort* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It was covered up. Maybe it should have been circumcised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I can't imagine what possible "object lesson" was intended here, and I would very much appreciate it if the OP would return to this thread and explain herself, because at this particular moment, I'm not thinking too highly of her. I would like that to change, because I truly think she was asking a serious question and we offended her, but I can't apologize to someone who might have only been pulling our chains. What does everyone else think about this? Am I over-reacting? Personally I have had a trollish theory going ever since reading the first post on this thread. Which is why I have waited so long to jump in. But now that you all are getting FUNNY, it is time to join the fray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Gosh, I tried to get up to "a consummation devoutly to be wished" but it went X-rated. :D:D:D These things happen. Not to me, of course, but to other people. Or so I've heard. :tongue_smilie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Well I understand what circumcision is logistically, but I have no idea what an uncircumcised p*nis would even look like. I've never seen a guy naked that wasn't. Now I'm curious. Off to google and praying my husband doesn't find this search in the history later :D :auto: and that I don't pull up porn sites. Ha! I had no idea until my 2nd son was born. Well, I had researched while pg with him, but stuck to illustrations, which weren't quite... adequate (?) I guess I hadn't taken any special notice before my first son was done the day after delivery! (All of my links had been vetted by Mothering.com, lol.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Link with line drawings of circumcised vs. uncircumcised: http://www.circumcision.org/foreskin.htm I used to work in a nursing home so actually have seen the difference. Looks fairly accurate to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 :laugh: It was covered up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Personally I have had a trollish theory going ever since reading the first post on this thread. Which is why I have waited so long to jump in. But now that you all are getting FUNNY, it is time to join the fray! This thread is way too much fun to let go of, just because there's a possible troll issue. Besides, trolls want trainwrecks, not mirth and merriment, right? Whatever the OP's original intention, she totally blew it with me when I read her "object lesson" post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Oh, my word. STOP! Don't do this! You will only get porn sites. Go to the mayo clinic site, or webmd. or something. Don't google. Actually it turned out fine. I found a rather clinical picture by searching Google Images and uncircumcised doesn't look that different from circumcised to be honest. Here's a link if you want to look for those gals like me who are uncircumcised know-nothings. *Edited to get rid of link since a link was posted upthread* I also found a picture of what is supposed to be a paparazzi picture of Prince William urinating on the side of a polo field with a close up of his....well, anyway, let's just say he's not Jewish. ;) Edited January 16, 2012 by pw23kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Actually it turned out fine. I found a rather clinical picture by searching Google Images and uncircumcised doesn't look that different from circumcised to be honest. Here's a link if you want to look for those gals like me who are uncircumcised know-nothings. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sweden_penis.jpg I also found a picture of what is supposed to be a paparazzi picture of Prince William urinating on the side of a polo field with a close up of his....well, anyway, let's just say he's not Jewish. ;) Depends upon the type of circumcision. There are many places here in the US that do what is sometimes referred to as a "high and tight". There is nothing extra left to cover the glans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Link with line drawings of circumcised vs. uncircumcised: http://www.circumcision.org/foreskin.htm I used to work in a nursing home so actually have seen the difference. Looks fairly accurate to me. Well... accurate, yes. But not... Okay, how shall I say... *detailed. Anyone have the game Elefun??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anyone think kilts would be helpful? It also would answer the question if the gentleman wears the kilt in the appropriate manner... Well, kilts are ALWAYS helpful. Just in general. However, as for wearing them traditionally, really, there is no good way to ask that question either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Well, kilts are ALWAYS helpful. Just in general. However, as for wearing them traditionally, really, there is no good way to ask that question either. Do you mean ask IF or ask them to wear the kilt? The 'if' question is easy, just place a fan in a strategic location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCyndiGirl Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I was going to suggest, to those of you who have never seen an intact penis to do the following experiment: Take two hotdogs. Put a tiny turtleneck sweater on one. Put a tiny crewneck on the other. There you have it. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annandatje Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 My favorite f*reskin story is hubby's. When we found out we were getting a boy, he wanted him circumsized just like him. Well, Mr Innocent, just because you walk around all day with your windowshades UP doesn't mean you are circ'd. He DIDn't KNOW he wasn't! Without delving too much into personal detail ;) , I do see how that could happen to a layperson. Not all circumsized penises look like miniature elephant trunks. Some resemble circed penises at a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I was going to suggest, to those of you who have never seen an intact penis to do the following experiment: Take two hotdogs. Put a tiny turtleneck sweater on one. Put a tiny crewneck on the other. There you have it. :D Ha ha ha. You forgot to mention that the turtleneck must cover the head until, um, it doesn't. The crewneck is on in the normal location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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