wintermom Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 17 hours ago, Terabith said: After decades of hiking with various groups, I'm much more flexible than this black/white post. It is a great post to point out the variety of goals and expectations people have while out in nature. A lot really does depend on your companions. My current hiking companion likes to race ahead to reach a destination quickly AND look inside rotting logs - sometimes even eat the rotting logs. My companion is my border collie puppy. 😊 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TechWife Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, wintermom said: This very task made me dislike chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 48 minutes ago, wintermom said: I got dd a periodic table shower curtain. She's a chem bs (with a minor in bio.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bolt. Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, wintermom said: Can somebody tell me if this really is true for Chemistry classes in the United States? That they memorize the table? (Because I can tell you that nobody requires that here in Canada -- that I know of.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, wintermom said: reminds me of how my organic chem professor had us memorizing 20 something molecules, things that NO ONE else int he university taught by anyone else, ever, had to memorize. You know, cause the class wasn't hard enough. (I did not pass this class......I in fact walked out of the final when I realized I couldn't do any of it, walked across the street to student affairs, and changed my major to comparative religion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermom Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, bolt. said: Can somebody tell me if this really is true for Chemistry classes in the United States? That they memorize the table? (Because I can tell you that nobody requires that here in Canada -- that I know of.) I remember memorizing big chunks of it in Alberta in the early 80s. It had fewer elements then. 😉 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 I had to memorize it in high school chemistry in the US. There used to be a song to help; which I can’t remember but I do remember it was part of April’s field trip in Gilmore Girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kareni Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, Katy said: I had to memorize it in high school chemistry in the US. There used to be a song to help... Perhaps Tom Lehrer's The Elements. When my husband teaches high school Chemistry, he introduces his students to the song. He does not require that the periodic table be memorized. Regards, Kareni 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Miss Tick Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, Kareni said: Perhaps Tom Lehrer's The Elements. When my husband teaches high school Chemistry, he introduces his students to the song. He does not require that the periodic table be memorized. Regards, Kareni Are there more elements since Lawrencium that he has to notify them of? (I should probably know this! Don't tell him my real name, use an alias!) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Katy said: Everything old is new again. The late 70s/80s have returned. Gunne Sax were prettier. . . And no - I didn't keep any of mine. 5 hours ago, ktgrok said: reminds me of how my organic chem professor had us memorizing 20 something molecules, things that NO ONE else int he university taught by anyone else, ever, had to memorize. You know, cause the class wasn't hard enough. (I did not pass this class......I in fact walked out of the final when I realized I couldn't do any of it, walked across the street to student affairs, and changed my major to comparative religion) I was working in a dr's office when dd was doing orgo. The dr's were like "ugh, orgo". They hated it. (2dd was glad to be done with it - she majored in chem.) We have a family friend who loved orgo. It was his favorite, thought it was easy . . . yeah, he's an endocrinologist. 3 hours ago, Katy said: I had to memorize it in high school chemistry in the US. There used to be a song to help; which I can’t remember but I do remember it was part of April’s field trip in Gilmore Girls. There are several on youtube. we didn't have to memorize the table - but did have a music teacher in elementary school that taught us a song where we memorized the states. It proved useful later on. And I can still rattle them off in alphabetical order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kareni Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, SusanC said: Are there more elements since Lawrencium that he has to notify them of? There are indeed! You can see a list here ~ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_chemical_element_discoveries Lawrencium is element 103; element Tennessine is element 117 and was named in 2009. Organesson, 118, was named in 2002. I learned some new things this afternoon! Regards, Kareni 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechWife Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 hours ago, bolt. said: Can somebody tell me if this really is true for Chemistry classes in the United States? That they memorize the table? (Because I can tell you that nobody requires that here in Canada -- that I know of.) It was true when I was in high school in the 1980’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt. Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, TechWife said: It was true when I was in high school in the 1980’s. I believe you, but I'm still bewildered. How does that even work? Maybe you just mean that you had to know how to name the elements, given the symbol and vice-versa? Or did you memorize all the numbers, the shape/layout? Did you have to sketch it? Surely you didn't need to include the atomic weight, groupings, and all the other data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechWife Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, bolt. said: I believe you, but I'm still bewildered. How does that even work? Maybe you just mean that you had to know how to name the elements, given the symbol and vice-versa? Or did you memorize all the numbers, the shape/layout? Did you have to sketch it? Surely you didn't need to include the atomic weight, groupings, and all the other data? All of the above, actually. We were required to “fill in the blanks” on a partially completed periodic table. As the semester went on, less information was provided and more recall was required. By the end of the semester, very few prompts were provided. The requirement was to place the right symbols & numbers in the right places. This is probably the primary reason I don’t care for chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermom Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, bolt. said: I believe you, but I'm still bewildered. How does that even work? Maybe you just mean that you had to know how to name the elements, given the symbol and vice-versa? Or did you memorize all the numbers, the shape/layout? Did you have to sketch it? Surely you didn't need to include the atomic weight, groupings, and all the other data? I can't speak for @bolt., but when I was in high school 40 years ago I don't really remember that many details about the specifics of the chemistry questions. There was the Periodic table, some chemicals that burned with different colours of flames, and some other stuff. Somewhere buried deep in my parents basement might be all the notes I took way back then. I'm NOT going to look it up. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, TechWife said: All of the above, actually. We were required to “fill in the blanks” on a partially completed periodic table. As the semester went on, less information was provided and more recall was required. By the end of the semester, very few prompts were provided. The requirement was to place the right symbols & numbers in the right places. This is probably the primary reason I don’t care for chemistry. I think we had similar assignments, but I wasn't very good at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechWife Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Junie said: I think we had similar assignments, but I wasn't very good at it. Me, either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MercyA Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 hours ago, bolt. said: Can somebody tell me if this really is true for Chemistry classes in the United States? That they memorize the table? (Because I can tell you that nobody requires that here in Canada -- that I know of.) We memorized it in high school. We also added a new element to the table, named after our teacher, "Geoffrium." We snuck its square onto the big table displayed on the classroom wall. It took him months and months to notice it. Good times. 🙂 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terabith Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 We had to memorize the periodic table. It was a huge thing. Started in fifth grade and continued through high school chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ausmumof3 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 16 hours ago, bolt. said: Can somebody tell me if this really is true for Chemistry classes in the United States? That they memorize the table? (Because I can tell you that nobody requires that here in Canada -- that I know of.) We had to learn the first 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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