wuhan - coronavirus

[Corraleno]

2 minutes ago, PaxEtLux said:

Dumb question:  If the primary way the virus gets into and grows inside the body is via the nose, wouldn't nose clips be more effective than masks?

You mean so people would breathe through their mouth instead? The virus replicates just as well in the throat, and could presumably expand up into the nasal passages as well as down into the lungs.

[vonfirmath]

10 hours ago, lewelma said:

Oh, they are at a village of lodges next to ski field and there is a ranger type guy checking up on them. I assume that the ranger has a 4 wheel drive.  I'll hear within an hour if they can leave today. 

My ds is 17 and with a bunch of other teens, so its not like they are little kids. LOL.

And let's be clear, there are currently 7 cases out of a population of 5 million, so its not like he has been exposed. They are just hanging out in the snow. But thanks for worrying about him.

I thought he was 12. Sorry

[BeachGal]

5 minutes ago, PaxEtLux said:

Dumb question:  If the primary way the virus gets into and grows inside the body is via the nose, wouldn't nose clips be more effective than masks?

Yes and that is why some of the second gen vaccines are nasal sprays. There is also an oral vaccine, a pill.

I would think you could still be infected through your mouth but not sure.

The Sonovia masks would probably be helpful in preventing infections and spread as well.

[BeachGal]

40 minutes ago, ktgrok said:

yup, and did anyone read it (I know...I will later) and see was that reduction permament, or like, 10 minutes after spraying the viral load is down but an hour later is back? 

If it really reduces it longer term, having people spray with it daily before school, work, etc would be HUGE. Still have to worry about people coughing, but if used daily might keep the virus from getting as far as the lungs?

A person could spray often throughout the day. Nitric oxide is safe, even used on newborns with respiratory failure.

When so few treatments are available, we should be investigating what other countries are trying, but specially treatments that won’t overwhelm our hospitals.

I agree that more studies are needed but they often start with decent, but not-perfect evidence like this.

**My phone is super slow so I might not be able to respond quickly. I’m traveling.

[lewelma]

6 hours ago, Faith-manor said:

QFT! I can handle watching kids romp around and play winter sports but only if I have caffeine. Being in caffeinated is my Kryptonite!!!! ☕ Of course this 🍸has been known to help as well. 😂

DS is home! He got a ride with the ranger guy with the 4 wheel drive and they followed the snow plow out. 

In a bigger deal, my 68 year-old downstairs neighbour also made if off the other side of the volcano. He called all the local ski clubs looking for a ride, and found one! He then had to hitch a ride off the mountain 30 minutes to the local small town, wait 2 hours in the snow because everything is closed, and then grab his ride 5 hours south to Wellington. There is no one on the roads, and the trains and buses have shut down. He had 48 hours to get it done and he did! Go him! 

Right now it looks like we might be in this thing for a while. Locations of interest include: a school, a church, a university lecture hall, a bar, and a casino. 

[Jean in Newcastle]

1 minute ago, lewelma said:

DS is home! He got a ride with the ranger guy with the 4 wheel drive and they followed the snow plow out. 

In a bigger deal, my 68 year-old downstairs neighbour also made if off the other side of the volcano. He called all the local ski clubs looking for a ride, and found one! He then had to hitch a ride off the mountain 30 minutes to the local small town, wait 2 hours in the snow because everything is closed, and then grab his ride 5 hours south to Wellington. There is no one on the roads, and the trains and buses have shut down. He had 48 hours to get it done and he did! Go him! 

Right now it looks like we might be in this thing for a while. Locations of interest include: a school, a church, a university lecture hall, a bar, and a casino. 

If anyone can beat this, it's the people of New Zealand. 

[lewelma]

Here is a comparison of the NSW lockdown compared the the NZ lockdown. The NZ locked down faster, harder, and the entire country. Here is hoping it is enough. My heart goes out to NSW. 😞

Work
New Zealand
You can only leave your home to work if you are an essential worker who cannot work from home.
NSW
If you can’t complete your job from home, you can go to your workplace – even if your work is not an essential service.

Schools
New Zealand
All schools and early childhood education centres are closed.
NSW
Schools are open and students should attend unless they are unwell or have a medical certificate exempting them.
Students are not required to physically distance. Staff and parents should maintain a distance of 1.5 metres from one another.

Food and shopping – what’s open
New Zealand
Supermarkets
Dairies
Pharmacies
Food banks
Service stations
Self-service laundromats
Closed: Restaurants and cafés. No takeaways.

NSW
Supermarkets and grocery shops
Shops that predominantly sell food or drinks e.g. butchers, bakeries, fruit shops and delicatessens
Chemists and pharmacies
Kiosks
Office supply shops
Liquor shops
Shops selling predominantly newspapers, magazines and stationery
Shops for maternity and baby supplies
Cellar door premises, but only to sell takeaway
Hardware and building supplies
Landscaping material supplies
Rural supplies
Timber yards
Garden centres and plant nurseries
Vehicle hire premises, not including the premises at which vehicles are sold
Shops that predominantly carry out mobile phone repairs
Service stations
Banks
Post offices
Laundromats
Drycleaners
Restaurants and cafés, for takeaway only.

Mask use
New Zealand
Masks are mandatory on public transport.
From Thursday, masks must be worn by customers and staff at all essential shops and services.
NSW
Anyone who leaves their home must carry a mask with them at all times.
They must be worn when working outdoors, by all school staff, by all people in outdoor markets, outdoor shopping strips, and in an outdoor queues waiting for products such as coffee and food.
The fine for not wearing or carrying a mask is $500.

Exercise
New Zealand
You can go for a walk, run or bike ride in your local area.
If you do, it must be on your own, or with your household bubble.
Activities that may require search and rescue services are not allowed. For example, you cannot go swimming, surfing, boating, hunting or tramping.
NSW
You can do exercise outside the home including running, walking, cycling, water sports or swimming.
You can meet with one person outside your household bubble for the purposes of exercise.

Funerals
New Zealand
Gathering for funerals is not permitted.
NSW
Up to 10 people can gather for a funeral, not including the person conducting the service.

Edited August 18, 2021 by lewelma

[lewelma]

2 hours ago, Jean in Newcastle said:

If anyone can beat this, it's the people of New Zealand. 

What is interesting is that the international news 2 days ago was making fun of us.  Lock down an entire country over one case. haha. So provincial. But here the government listens to the scientists, and they said that if there is no link to the border, then this is second or even third generation, so there will be many many others. And with an r value of 6, delaying 3 days to have more info before locking down will multiply this thing up to the point where you can't contain it.

The other thing is that there is a lot of international news talking about our 'poor vaccine rollout.' This is really a slap in the face as we have had *supply* problems because we source our vaccine out of India, and then when they had that horrible outbreak, they quit exporting the vaccine, and kept it for their own very needy population. And NZ with no cases wasn't really in an ethical position to demand they meet the contract.

Edited August 18, 2021 by lewelma

[Melissa in Australia]

45 minutes ago, lewelma said:

Here is a comparison of the NSW lockdown compared the the NZ lockdown. The NZ locked down faster, harder, and the entire country. Here is hoping it is enough. My heart goes out to NSW. 😞

Work
New Zealand
You can only leave your home to work if you are an essential worker who cannot work from home.
NSW
If you can’t complete your job from home, you can go to your workplace – even if your work is not an essential service.

Schools
New Zealand
All schools and early childhood education centres are closed.
NSW
Schools are open and students should attend unless they are unwell or have a medical certificate exempting them.
Students are not required to physically distance. Staff and parents should maintain a distance of 1.5 metres from one another.

Food and shopping – what’s open
New Zealand
Supermarkets
Dairies
Pharmacies
Food banks
Service stations
Self-service laundromats
Closed: Restaurants and cafés. No takeaways.

NSW
Supermarkets and grocery shops
Shops that predominantly sell food or drinks e.g. butchers, bakeries, fruit shops and delicatessens
Chemists and pharmacies
Kiosks
Office supply shops
Liquor shops
Shops selling predominantly newspapers, magazines and stationery
Shops for maternity and baby supplies
Cellar door premises, but only to sell takeaway
Hardware and building supplies
Landscaping material supplies
Rural supplies
Timber yards
Garden centres and plant nurseries
Vehicle hire premises, not including the premises at which vehicles are sold
Shops that predominantly carry out mobile phone repairs
Service stations
Banks
Post offices
Laundromats
Drycleaners
Restaurants and cafés, for takeaway only.

Mask use
New Zealand
Masks are mandatory on public transport.
From Thursday, masks must be worn by customers and staff at all essential shops and services.
NSW
Anyone who leaves their home must carry a mask with them at all times.
They must be worn when working outdoors, by all school staff, by all people in outdoor markets, outdoor shopping strips, and in an outdoor queues waiting for products such as coffee and food.
The fine for not wearing or carrying a mask is $500.

Exercise
New Zealand
You can go for a walk, run or bike ride in your local area.
If you do, it must be on your own, or with your household bubble.
Activities that may require search and rescue services are not allowed. For example, you cannot go swimming, surfing, boating, hunting or tramping.
NSW
You can do exercise outside the home including running, walking, cycling, water sports or swimming.
You can meet with one person outside your household bubble for the purposes of exercise.

Funerals
New Zealand
Gathering for funerals is not permitted.
NSW
Up to 10 people can gather for a funeral, not including the person conducting the service.

The Melbourne lockdown is closer to the NZ lockdown, except public transport is still running during the day and there is still mail. Victorians are pretty shocked at the NSW lockdown

[lewelma]

22 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:

The Melbourne lockdown is closer to the NZ lockdown, except public transport is still running during the day and there is still mail. Victorians are pretty shocked at the NSW lockdown

Did NSW seed Victoria's outbreak?

[bookbard]

Schools are only open to kids of essential workers in NSW (or kids at risk). Teachers have to mask. Childcare centres are open but they are begging parents to keep them at home unless they're essential workers.

I'm homeschooling now and expect to be for the rest of the year.

[bookbard]

Also re working from home - you have to either work at home, or your workplace isn't open. So therefore only 'essential workers' can go to work. It's just that for political reasons, the govt has decided certain places like Bunnings are 'essential'. 

[Melissa in Australia]

1 hour ago, lewelma said:

Did NSW seed Victoria's outbreak?

Yes

[lewelma]

1 minute ago, Melissa in Australia said:

Yes

And now ours. 😞

[lewelma]

Director of Health has said that they are using the manifests from all planes from Australia in the past month to contact every. single. traveller. I assume they will be testing everyone to see who has antibodies or active infections.  I wonder how many people that is. 5000?

[bookbard]

And it'll spread to the rest of the country because - it feels like - the NSW govt has given up. 

I would say the biggest issue is the workplace thing. It seems to be the number one cause of spread. If they were really serious, they would shut down everything at least for a week. The workers from the western suburbs (who are the parcel sorters, the shelf packers, the cleaners, the everyday workers) are spreading it via workplaces and then to families. 

But I feel the govt has lost it and has given up. They're just waiting for people to be vaccinated. 

[lewelma]

6 minutes ago, bookbard said:

And it'll spread to the rest of the country because - it feels like - the NSW govt has given up. 

I would say the biggest issue is the workplace thing. It seems to be the number one cause of spread. If they were really serious, they would shut down everything at least for a week. The workers from the western suburbs (who are the parcel sorters, the shelf packers, the cleaners, the everyday workers) are spreading it via workplaces and then to families. 

But I feel the govt has lost it and has given up. They're just waiting for people to be vaccinated. 

My guess is that there are now too many people to contact trace. And people are weary of lockdown so won't do a great job complying if they were to increase restrictions and implement to a NZ style lockdown. Ardern said that she only wants to relax restrictions over time, never increase them -- I think she has learned from NSW resident's frustration. At this point, it is probably only vaccines that will solve NSW's situation. But that will take quite some time, and then NSW will be living like the USA. Just read the thread on 'at what point would you lock down again?.' So much anger, frustration, distrust, and feelings of betrayal. This whole pandemic thing is just so hard. 😞

Edited August 18, 2021 by lewelma

[PaxEtLux]

7 hours ago, Corraleno said:

The virus replicates just as well in the throat, and could presumably expand up into the nasal passages as well as down into the lungs.

I guess what I don't understand is if the above is true, why would the nasal spray be effective?

[Melissa in Australia]

Just now, bookbard said:

And it'll spread to the rest of the country because - it feels like - the NSW govt has given up. 

I would say the biggest issue is the workplace thing. It seems to be the number one cause of spread. If they were really serious, they would shut down everything at least for a week. The workers from the western suburbs (who are the parcel sorters, the shelf packers, the cleaners, the everyday workers) are spreading it via workplaces and then to families. 

But I feel the govt has lost it and has given up. They're just waiting for people to be vaccinated. 

 people think it was NSW plan right from the start. The whole rest of the country has been having snap lockdowns every week or so it seems because of NSW spread.
 
What about all those prisoners that were secretly flown to WA yesterday. A whole plane load. They weren’t tested until they landed.

Added up, Melbourne has had 200 days of hard lockdown since the pandemic began, and the scattered weeks in between they have had lower levels of lockdown. 

[bookbard]

3 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:

people think it was NSW plan right from the start.

What, in order to get people to vaccinate? See, I don't get that. Vaccinations only opened up for the under 50s from mid-June, July. The cat was already out of the bag by then. As soon as vaccinations have been available, people have been grabbing them. It's lack of vaccinations that's been the problem, not lack of uptake. 

[Corraleno]

10 minutes ago, PaxEtLux said:

I guess what I don't understand is if the above is true, why would the nasal spray be effective?

Because most people breathe through their nose, so that's where the virus starts. And I assume that a certain amount of the nasal spray will end up at the back of the throat, too — that's certainly what happens when I use any kind of nasal spray.

[Melissa in Australia]

6 minutes ago, bookbard said:

What, in order to get people to vaccinate? See, I don't get that. Vaccinations only opened up for the under 50s from mid-June, July. The cat was already out of the bag by then. As soon as vaccinations have been available, people have been grabbing them. It's lack of vaccinations that's been the problem, not lack of uptake. 

No to have spread throughout the community so Australia will open up borders to international travel

[lewelma]

I just think NSW was still treating Delta like the earlier variants.  They took way to long to realise that the previous methods to suppress were not going to work this time. And by the time they figured it out, it was too late. (That and some incompetence by the leadership.)

[bookbard]

21 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:

No to have spread throughout the community so Australia will open up borders to international travel

Hmm, well while I wouldn't put it past the PM, I tend to think it's more incompetence than evil. 

[Melissa Louise]

8 minutes ago, lewelma said:

I just think NSW was still treating Delta like the earlier variants.  They took way to long to realise that the previous methods to suppress were not going to work this time. And by the time they figured it out, it was too late. (That and some incompetence by the leadership.)

I think it was deliberate pressure from the 'let it rip' faction in State govt plus their lobbyists/backers. That's why we lost the crucial first ten days. 

It took at least a month for Gladys to wrest back some control, and the 'mockdown' is a result of the compromises she was forced into. 

That's my reading, anyway. This has always been a corrupt state, from settlement on, whoever is in power. 

[Melissa Louise]

53 minutes ago, bookbard said:

And it'll spread to the rest of the country because - it feels like - the NSW govt has given up. 

I would say the biggest issue is the workplace thing. It seems to be the number one cause of spread. If they were really serious, they would shut down everything at least for a week. The workers from the western suburbs (who are the parcel sorters, the shelf packers, the cleaners, the everyday workers) are spreading it via workplaces and then to families. 

But I feel the govt has lost it and has given up. They're just waiting for people to be vaccinated. 

They have given up. All eggs in the vaccination basket. 

That's why every presser is devoid of changes. Just dire warnings of worse to come, get a jab. 

[Melissa in Australia]

57 cases for Victoria. 
ugh

I am wondering how many days until rural vic is back into stage 4. If we can just hold out until Monday so ds17 can get his apprenticeship papers signed and start.......

[Ausmumof3]

Aah crap.  VIC just announced 57 cases.  44 quarantined for the infectious period.

Sorry @Melissa in Australia posted before I saw your post.

Edited August 18, 2021 by Ausmumof3

[Melissa Louise]

1 hour ago, bookbard said:

Schools are only open to kids of essential workers in NSW (or kids at risk). Teachers have to mask. Childcare centres are open but they are begging parents to keep them at home unless they're essential workers.

I'm homeschooling now and expect to be for the rest of the year.

They're actually open to all kids in the sense that the essential worker language has been removed. 

Many schools have struggled with rising numbers over the last few weeks, and some strongly worded letters have been sent home by Principals. 

On parent forums, the knowledge that they can't turn a student away is produced as justification for sending them. That, and their need for socialisation. I do understand parent frustration but unlike last year, its pretty clear that schools aren't 'safe'.

I'm hoping we will all make it back to school some time during Term 4. 

[BeachGal]

33 minutes ago, PaxEtLux said:

I guess what I don't understand is if the above is true, why would the nasal spray be effective?

The virus is infecting most people through their nose. It infects nasal cells, “chops off” the infected nasal cells’ cilia (preventing it from being swept out) and then replicates and infects other vulnerable parts of the body.

Nitric oxide is strongly believed to prevent infection and replication of the Covid virus. Israel has a nitric oxide-inducing nasal spray already on the market but there are others such as this one, named GSL-1200, which will soon finish its phase 2 trial. (Humming produces nitric oxide, too. Just sayin’.)

Quote

The spray acts to stimulate nasal cells to produce nitric oxide, which may inhibit SARS coronavirus growth and infectivity.

https://www.dickinson.edu/news/article/4294/dickinson_college_alumnus_biotech_company_at_the_forefront_again_of_vaccine_creation

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04408183

[Melissa Louise]

The numbers for Vic are less worrying than they seem, given the high % in isolation. They're not great, though. 

 

[Melissa in Australia]

1 minute ago, Melissa Louise said:

The numbers for Vic are less worrying than they seem, given the high % in isolation. They're not great, though. 

 

I am worried. Very worried. Numbers should be going down not up. 

[Melissa Louise]

12 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:

I am worried. Very worried. Numbers should be going down not up. 

I guess the numbers say to me that you locked down in time. I'd keep watching the % in isolation numbers over the next week. 

(This is what I'm gonna say to DD today).

[Melissa in Australia]

Just now, Melissa Louise said:

I guess the numbers say to me that you locked down in time. I'd keep watching the % in isolation numbers over the next week. 

(This is what I'm gonna say to DD today).

I just read that most of the positive are the 13 day test of people already in isolation from a school outbreak. So not as bad as I was thinking

[lewelma]

16 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:

I am worried. Very worried. Numbers should be going down not up. 

It depends on if they are going up because people are infecting their household who are all in lockdown so not spreading it to anyone else. 

NZ is expecting the numbers to rise to at least 120, but I'm guessing 500 in total before things are under control. We hear about the wastewater at the 1pm standup.

[Katy]

3 hours ago, lewelma said:

What is interesting is that the international news 2 days ago was making fun of us.  Lock down an entire country over one case. haha. So provincial. But here the government listens to the scientists, and they said that if there is no link to the border, then this is second or even third generation, so there will be many many others. And with an r value of 6, delaying 3 days to have more info before locking down will multiply this thing up to the point where you can't contain it.

The other thing is that there is a lot of international news talking about our 'poor vaccine rollout.' This is really a slap in the face as we have had *supply* problems because we source our vaccine out of India, and then when they had that horrible outbreak, they quit exporting the vaccine, and kept it for their own very needy population. And NZ with no cases wasn't really in an ethical position to demand they meet the contract.

FWIW, I haven’t seen news making fun of NZ.  I think everyone would prefer periodic total lockdown and actual tracing, and living normally the rest of the time to the way the rest of the world has handled this.  I’ve never had more respect for NZ.

1 hour ago, PaxEtLux said:

I guess what I don't understand is if the above is true, why would the nasal spray be effective?

Your nose and mouth are connected.  You may catch the virus through your nose, but the way it is spread is talking or singing. The medicine works by blocking replication so it is about the virus NOT the body.

[lewelma]

14 minutes ago, Katy said:

FWIW, I haven’t seen news making fun of NZ. 

It is just all the headlines "NZ to go into National Lockdown over a Single Case". I've seen that approach in the Guardian, NYT, Reuters, CNN, and Washington Post. The articles are pretty good (minus the implication that we can't vaccinate over here), but the headlines suggest a ridiculous overreaction.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/new-zealand-to-go-into-national-lockdown-over-one-covid-case

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/world/australia/new-zealand-lockdown.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/virus-free-new-zealand-investigating-new-community-covid-19-case-2021-08-17/

etc

Edited August 18, 2021 by lewelma

[Jean in Newcastle]

2 minutes ago, lewelma said:

It is just all the headlines "NZ to go into National Lockdown over a Single Case". I've seen that approach in the Guardian, CNN, and Washington Post. The articles are pretty good (minus the implication that we can't vaccinate over here), but the headlines suggest a ridiculous overreaction.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/new-zealand-to-go-into-national-lockdown-over-one-covid-case

I saw that very same article. 

[Melissa Louise]

13 minutes ago, lewelma said:

It is just all the headlines "NZ to go into National Lockdown over a Single Case". I've seen that approach in the Guardian, NYT, Reuters, CNN, and Washington Post. The articles are pretty good (minus the implication that we can't vaccinate over here), but the headlines suggest a ridiculous overreaction.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/new-zealand-to-go-into-national-lockdown-over-one-covid-case

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/world/australia/new-zealand-lockdown.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/virus-free-new-zealand-investigating-new-community-covid-19-case-2021-08-17/

etc

There's quite a bit of Anglophone glee ( not here) that zero Covid 'isnt working' - particularly from the UK. 

[AngelaR]

13 minutes ago, lewelma said:

It is just all the headlines "NZ to go into National Lockdown over a Single Case". I've seen that approach in the Guardian, NYT, Reuters, CNN, and Washington Post. The articles are pretty good (minus the implication that we can't vaccinate over here), but the headlines suggest a ridiculous overreaction.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/new-zealand-to-go-into-national-lockdown-over-one-covid-case

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/world/australia/new-zealand-lockdown.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/virus-free-new-zealand-investigating-new-community-covid-19-case-2021-08-17/

etc

Ah…but the rest of the world is extremely jealous and just WISHES where they live would have had the sense to go into lockdown over “just one case.”  Hubby and I have quite decided NZ is the place to retire to. 

[Pawz4me]

@lewelma, if it's any consolation, DH and I have mentioned much more than once how nice it would be to be in NZ right about now.

[lewelma]

7 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

There's quite a bit of Anglophone glee ( not here) that zero Covid 'isnt working' - particularly from the UK. 

I've definitely noticed that.  However, I would rather be in periodic lockdowns alternating with complete freedom, than with the fear, confusion, and betrayal that my family is facing in different parts of the USA.

[lewelma]

6 minutes ago, Pawz4me said:

@lewelma, if it's any consolation, DH and I have mentioned much more than once how nice it would be to be in NZ right about now.

Well, I will say that even in lockdown, all the people I've been talking with (homeschool moms, my tutor kids, my neighbors) and all the news I have been reading (Stuff, RNZ, Newsroom) are all in agreement that we are in this together and this is what we want to do.  There is just not much if any disagreement. 

[BeachGal]

Yet another nitric oxide treatment contender, R-107, a collaboration between Claritas and Salzman Group. Looks amazing but only trials will tell.

https://claritaspharma.com/our-company-our-products-in-development/r-107-for-covid-viral-infections/

Nitric oxide is the immune system’s first line of defense against viral infection. When a viral threat is present, white blood cells migrate to the area of infection and release a burst of nitric oxide that crosses into the infected cell to inactivate the virus.

There is an extensive body of research demonstrating the ability of nitric oxide to prevent the replication and transmission of various viruses, such as those that cause COVID-19 infection, as well as viruses that cause influenza and the common cold.

In COVID-19 infections, natural nitric oxide levels may not be sufficient to eradicate the virus. R-107 augments the body's natural release of nitric oxide to strengthen the body's ability to eliminate the virus. Unlike vaccine therapy, which may prove ineffective against new mutations, R-107 is engineered to treat all current and future mutant forms of COVID-19.

Claritas is developing R-107 as both a therapy for COVID-19 infection, as well as a broad-spectrum antiviral drug for the treatment of, and possible prevention of, other viral infections.

Unlike nitric oxide, which is a gas that must be administered by a trained respiratory therapist using special delivery equipment, R-107 is a liquid that can be easily administered orally in a capsule, or nasally through use of a nasal spray, or by a single intramuscular injection. Due to its ease of administration, R-107 is designed to overcome the challenges inherent in administration of nitric oxide gas, and transform nitric oxide therapy into a potentially best-of-care treatment for COVID-19 infection, and potentially other viral infections as well.

*******

This page simply and clearly explains how R-107 treats Covid infections:

https://claritaspharma.com/our-company-our-products-in-development/r-107-vs-vaccines/

Stage One (nitric oxide prevents viral infections and multiplication)

Stage Two (nitric oxide reverses respiratory symptoms of low oxygen levels and shortness of breath)

[Ausmumof3]

1 hour ago, lewelma said:

It is just all the headlines "NZ to go into National Lockdown over a Single Case". I've seen that approach in the Guardian, NYT, Reuters, CNN, and Washington Post. The articles are pretty good (minus the implication that we can't vaccinate over here), but the headlines suggest a ridiculous overreaction.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/new-zealand-to-go-into-national-lockdown-over-one-covid-case

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/world/australia/new-zealand-lockdown.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/virus-free-new-zealand-investigating-new-community-covid-19-case-2021-08-17/

etc

Yeah we have had the same kind of reaction to Australia.  And a lot of people being all “All of Australia is in military lockdown”. Um no… Australia is a big place people.

[lewelma]

Great news. They found the index case!! He flew from NSW on the 8th and went into MIQ. The genomes are a match with the now 21 cases. He returned a positive test on the 9th one day after arrival. 100% of border workers are vaccinated, so this is a breakthrough case. It also means we are only looking at 9 days of spread before lockdown. Wastewater in Auckland was negative on Friday and positive at four locations on Monday and Tuesday. Every other city in the country had a negative wastewater test on Monday. 

[Melissa in Australia]

That is fantastic news

[Melissa in Australia]

2 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said:

I just read that most of the positive are the 13 day test of people already in isolation from a school outbreak. So not as bad as I was thinking

41 of the 57 cases today are people in isolation on day 13 test connected to a school outbreak. Only 3 cases that are not connected yet, all others either household members or very close contact to other cases. So good news new case numbers aren’t as bad as I thought.   

Edited August 19, 2021 by Melissa in Australia

[Ausmumof3]

681 for NSW. 1 death.

16 for ACT.

Thats great news on the number of linked cases for Vic and that NZ has tracked origin.  

[KSera]

 

3 hours ago, lewelma said:

It is just all the headlines "NZ to go into National Lockdown over a Single Case". I've seen that approach in the Guardian, NYT, Reuters, CNN, and Washington Post. The articles are pretty good (minus the implication that we can't vaccinate over here), but the headlines suggest a ridiculous overreaction.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/new-zealand-to-go-into-national-lockdown-over-one-covid-case

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/world/australia/new-zealand-lockdown.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/virus-free-new-zealand-investigating-new-community-covid-19-case-2021-08-17/

etc

I interpreted the headline more as one of awe, not ridicule, fwiw. 

1 hour ago, lewelma said:

Great news. They found the index case!! He flew from NSW on the 8th and went into MIQ. The genomes are a match with the now 21 cases. He returned a positive test on the 9th one day after arrival. 100% of border workers are vaccinated, so this is a breakthrough case.

Can you explain what this means about how it got from quarantine into the community? Are you saying it would have been from a border worker?