Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have posted here before about our dog, about her biting dd and hating kids and so on. Honestly it is not a friendly pet except to ds (whose dog it is). It tolerates ds petting it but not dd...always tries to get away from dd's attention who wants it to be a true pet (snuggle with her, sit by her side, go play in the yard with her). Ds will give it attention but that is it. We have mentioned, nagged, and demanded he pick up her droppings from the yard and give her walks. He might do it for a day or two but then stop. Now the dog is barking every time the door opens...even if she sees us leaving she barks at the door (all glass)...not a friendly bark but her aggressive bark (the one she uses when ever she sees a child in the yard). We don't have friends over because the dog will bark non stop no matter how many times we let her know it is okay. I feel it has gotten worse as the dog ages...she just turned 7. We have talked with the vet and had her checked to see if she is sick...nothing. Do you think it is time to just say we tried and now she needs to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Marple Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 We don't have friends over because the dog will bark non stop no matter how many times we let her know it is okay. I feel it has gotten worse as the dog ages...she just turned 7. We have talked with the vet and had her checked to see if she is sick...nothing. Do you think it is time to just say we tried and now she needs to go? If you are altering your lifestyle to fit your aggressive dog, it's time for that dog to go. A pet should enhance your life - if you've tried to rehab the pet and have been unsuccessful, move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 :grouphug: Yes, it's time for the dog to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I agree it is time for the dog to go. But be prepared that some others will not understand and make rude and hurtful judgments. Just remember, they are not the ones living with the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaver_67579 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Have you dealt with an obedience instructor or behavior specialist? If not then the answer for me is that you didn't work at it enough. I am also not a person that believes in outside dogs. Dogs were designed for living in a pack-being isolated from social contact is somewhat like keeping a person in solitary confinement. Dogs can tend to have social problems if not properly socialized and without the amount of social contact they need. There are exceptions to this of course, but I doubt you own a full on working dog that is guarding your sheep flock or something. From your post, you are contributing to the behavior your dislike-telling dog it is ok... while the dog is barking-which you don't want her to do... this reinforcing the problem. This is what makes me think you have done no formal training-or haven't consulted a trainer or behaviorist in a long time/to deal with your problem issues. I would highly recommend if you do place the dog in a new home-that you don't replace it with another. Dogs take a lot of time, socialization, money and care and if you aren't willing/able to provide that-it isn't a good idea to have a dog. I love dogs and have had up to 5 large high-energy dogs in my home at a time-right now I have none-because I cannot provide the level of training/socialization and care I think they deserve at this time... but hopefully soon!!! I'm sure missing having a dog. btw-I was an obedience instructor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom in High Heels Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Oh, this is so hard. I've always said I would never just get rid of a dog (our oldest dog was almost 15 when she died and we'd had her since she was a pup, and our other dog is almost 13 and we've had him since he was a pup), until Han Solo came along and our dog (of only a few months) kept sitting on top of him (as a newborn) and biting at him. She wasn't doing it to be mean, she was a very friendly dog, she just want to play. We tried for months and months to train her, but nothing worked. We finally decided she had to go. Fortunately, our very good friends loved her to pieces and had older kids and took her. We still got to see her every now and then until they moved. If the dog is causing problems with your children and you cannot train the dog to stop, the dog needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have posted here before about our dog, about her biting dd and hating kids and so on. Honestly it is not a friendly pet except to ds (whose dog it is). It tolerates ds petting it but not dd...always tries to get away from dd's attention who wants it to be a true pet (snuggle with her, sit by her side, go play in the yard with her). Ds will give it attention but that is it. We have mentioned, nagged, and demanded he pick up her droppings from the yard and give her walks. He might do it for a day or two but then stop. Now the dog is barking every time the door opens...even if she sees us leaving she barks at the door (all glass)...not a friendly bark but her aggressive bark (the one she uses when ever she sees a child in the yard). We don't have friends over because the dog will bark non stop no matter how many times we let her know it is okay. I feel it has gotten worse as the dog ages...she just turned 7. We have talked with the vet and had her checked to see if she is sick...nothing. Do you think it is time to just say we tried and now she needs to go? if the dog is biting, hating other kids, . . . I'm trying to understand why you still have the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samiam Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Have you dealt with an obedience instructor or behavior specialist? If not then the answer for me is that you didn't work at it enough. I am also not a person that believes in outside dogs. Dogs were designed for living in a pack-being isolated from social contact is somewhat like keeping a person in solitary confinement. Dogs can tend to have social problems if not properly socialized and without the amount of social contact they need. There are exceptions to this of course, but I doubt you own a full on working dog that is guarding your sheep flock or something. From your post, you are contributing to the behavior your dislike-telling dog it is ok... while the dog is barking-which you don't want her to do... this reinforcing the problem. This is what makes me think you have done no formal training-or haven't consulted a trainer or behaviorist in a long time/to deal with your problem issues. I would highly recommend if you do place the dog in a new home-that you don't replace it with another. Dogs take a lot of time, socialization, money and care and if you aren't willing/able to provide that-it isn't a good idea to have a dog. I love dogs and have had up to 5 large high-energy dogs in my home at a time-right now I have none-because I cannot provide the level of training/socialization and care I think they deserve at this time... but hopefully soon!!! I'm sure missing having a dog. btw-I was an obedience instructor. I think you assumed way too much. OP never said most of the things you assumed. I didn't read where the dog was living outside. OP never said they were telling the dog it was okay to bark, but telling the dog to calm down. They can use the word "OK" and that doesnt' mean the dog is understanding it's okay to bark....they don't know OK, unless they've been trained what OK is to mean to them. OP never said they don't have time to train or spend with the dog. Dogs have personalities. Sometimes based on history, sometimes based on breed, and sometimes just based on themselves. Some personalities just don't jive with living with families, and/or children. Perhaps the dog finds the living situation stressful...for whatever reason and not because the family has done something wrong. But it does sound as if the dog is not happy nor is the family, so it might be best for everyone for the dog to find a home that is more suitable to his temperament. It's not giving up, it's more about doing the right thing for everyone involved. And I disagree, just because this dog did not work out, doesn't mean you should never get a dog again. A dog with a different personality may just be the most amazing pet you've ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 We had a dog snap at one of our kids. Once. She was sent to live in a no kid home within a week. She died happily this spring after a long life of being a spoiled dog in a no kid home. Time for the do to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in Neverland Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If a dog bites my child, the dog goes. We are cat people. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Have you dealt with an obedience instructor or behavior specialist? If not then the answer for me is that you didn't work at it enough. I am also not a person that believes in outside dogs. Dogs were designed for living in a pack-being isolated from social contact is somewhat like keeping a person in solitary confinement. Dogs can tend to have social problems if not properly socialized and without the amount of social contact they need. There are exceptions to this of course, but I doubt you own a full on working dog that is guarding your sheep flock or something. From your post, you are contributing to the behavior your dislike-telling dog it is ok... while the dog is barking-which you don't want her to do... this reinforcing the problem. This is what makes me think you have done no formal training-or haven't consulted a trainer or behaviorist in a long time/to deal with your problem issues. I would highly recommend if you do place the dog in a new home-that you don't replace it with another. Dogs take a lot of time, socialization, money and care and if you aren't willing/able to provide that-it isn't a good idea to have a dog. I love dogs and have had up to 5 large high-energy dogs in my home at a time-right now I have none-because I cannot provide the level of training/socialization and care I think they deserve at this time... but hopefully soon!!! I'm sure missing having a dog. btw-I was an obedience instructor. The dog is an inside dog but goes out to "play" in the yard (large yard but she won't leave the deck unless you throw her ball or dd carries the ball in her pocket to get the dog to be with her in the yard). Dog is around people all day unless she goes to her room (laundry room) and lately she has been opting to stay in there instead of being with the family. Dd tries to get her to play by bringing the dogs bed upstairs, bringing treats up stairs, and reading to her. Neighbor is a dog rescuer and evaluates dogs to see if they can be people sociable. I have consulted her over the last year and tried many things she has said. None of them have worked long term. When I said I tell the dog it is okay I was meaning I let the dog know the people who just came over are okay and not a threat. We try to get the dog to sniff the visitors but she just growls, barks, hackles raised and does not want to be near them. You do have a right to your opinion. My sister thinks our dog is not treated right because we do not let her on furniture or dress her in cute clothes....she also is allowed her opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticmom Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 One of our dogs lived in a home that entertained alot and it stressed her out. She started attacking the neighbor's dog so they gave her to us. At our home she very rarely sees anyone outside of her "pack" and she is much happier. Sometimes rehoming a dog is the best thing you can do for the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Sigh...I know. The dog needs to go. I knew it the second time she bite dd. The first time could have been a mistake type thing. I just needed to see it in print and hear it from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I, stupidly, put up with snapping and growling for a long time. She had been warning me. She finally bit ds within a half inch of his eye. Don't wait until you're beating yourself up in the ER, like I did. (Ds was fine, btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yes, the dog needs to go. We had to do this with a cat that freaked out and bit and scratched whenever our children came in the room. The shelter had said he was good with kids, and he was at the shelter, but at our house it was a different story. After my mother got a very serious infection from his biting her (she was sitting near him when DS7 walked in), we decided he needed to go. Keeping an animal that has shown aggression and dangerous behaviors is not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Have you dealt with an obedience instructor or behavior specialist? If not then the answer for me is that you didn't work at it enough. I am also not a person that believes in outside dogs. Dogs were designed for living in a pack-being isolated from social contact is somewhat like keeping a person in solitary confinement. Dogs can tend to have social problems if not properly socialized and without the amount of social contact they need. There are exceptions to this of course, but I doubt you own a full on working dog that is guarding your sheep flock or something. From your post, you are contributing to the behavior your dislike-telling dog it is ok... while the dog is barking-which you don't want her to do... this reinforcing the problem. This is what makes me think you have done no formal training-or haven't consulted a trainer or behaviorist in a long time/to deal with your problem issues. I would highly recommend if you do place the dog in a new home-that you don't replace it with another. Dogs take a lot of time, socialization, money and care and if you aren't willing/able to provide that-it isn't a good idea to have a dog. I love dogs and have had up to 5 large high-energy dogs in my home at a time-right now I have none-because I cannot provide the level of training/socialization and care I think they deserve at this time... but hopefully soon!!! I'm sure missing having a dog. btw-I was an obedience instructor. wow. that was pretty judgmental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Sigh...I know. The dog needs to go. I knew it the second time she bite dd. The first time could have been a mistake type thing. I just needed to see it in print and hear it from others. :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whereneverever Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yes, the dog needs to go. Biting kids is a total no go for me. And I'm a dog person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticmom Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Since the dog is retreating even more lately and acting more aggressive than normal I would consider a vet check as well. Depending on the size/breed of dog he could be miserable due to something age related such as arthritis or hip dysplasia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 We had a dog a couple years ago. We wanted to be dog people, but she was just too much. Needed too much training and we weren't willing/able to invest the time. She did start biting, so we gave her to my brother who is a dog person and she's leading a much happier and trained life. You can't keep a dog who bites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Mom4 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 OP, sounds like you know how this needs to go. Time to put that energy you are spending trying to keep her from biting, barking etc into finding a good home for her with no kids or only teens. It will be good for the dog in the long run and also good for your family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Im not saying you should keep the dog, but (although I hate to say it,) I think your dd may be a part of the problem. The dog has made it very clear that she likes your ds, but doesn't like your dd, yet your dd keeps pressuring the dog to be the pet she wants -- and not accepting him as the dog he is. I know she is only 8, but she's old enough to know that she shouldn't pester the dog or try to cuddle with him, because he doesn't like it. Honestly, your dog sounds unhappy. If your ds isn't going to give him enough attention to keep him happy, I can understand why he is getting more ill-behaved. Please don't think I'm judging you -- I'm just thinking that the dog may be a great dog... for someone else. If your dd can't stop annoying the dog, and if your ds doesn't give him enough attention, and you don't really want to fuss over him, either, I think you would be doing him (and yourselves) a favor by finding him a new home without young children. I would have a serious talk with your ds about it, first, though, as it's his dog and he might be willing to work with him if the only other option was re-homing the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I think it's time for the dog to go. (It was time for the dog to go when it bit your dd the first time). If you are going to try to rehome the dog, I think you need to warn interested people that the dog has bitten your dd twice and that it's aggressive toward guests. That might make it much harder to rehome, but it's only fair that people know what they're getting. It would be awful to find a new home for the dog and then have it bite the new person badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz4me Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Just curious -- What breed/size dog are we talking about here? What kind of "checking" did the vet do? Any blood work done? Thyroid test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Im not saying you should keep the dog, but (although I hate to say it,) I think your dd may be a part of the problem. The dog has made it very clear that she likes your ds, but doesn't like your dd, yet your dd keeps pressuring the dog to be the pet she wants -- and not accepting him as the dog he is. I know she is only 8, but she's old enough to know that she shouldn't pester the dog or try to cuddle with him, because he doesn't like it. Honestly, your dog sounds unhappy. If your ds isn't going to give him enough attention to keep him happy, I can understand why he is getting more ill-behaved. Please don't think I'm judging you -- I'm just thinking that the dog may be a great dog... for someone else. If your dd can't stop annoying the dog, and if your ds doesn't give him enough attention, and you don't really want to fuss over him, either, I think you would be doing him (and yourselves) a favor by finding him a new home without young children. I would have a serious talk with your ds about it, first, though, as it's his dog and he might be willing to work with him if the only other option was re-homing the dog. I agree...dd does tend to want more from the dog then the dog wants from her. She really loves dogs and wants to have a pet dog but this one has another idea. Sadly it is a pet dog we want, one that will love ALL the family members and want to play with all and snuggle and just be a true pet. So after 7 yrs of trying to make a family pet of this dog it is time to find a nice home (without children) for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Just curious -- What breed/size dog are we talking about here? What kind of "checking" did the vet do? Any blood work done? Thyroid test? It is a snoodle (mini poodle/schnauzer mix) and about 20# We told the vet how she was acting and about the biting. I know some sort of blood test was done and a check up but not a thyroid test. Vet said the dog was 100%, no signs of any arthritis. she was alert and so on. She just told us some dogs do not like children and will tolerate those in the home and to give the dog her space. In other words, treat her like you would the grumpy aunt who comes for a visit...treat her nice and leave her alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Im not saying you should keep the dog, but (although I hate to say it,) I think your dd may be a part of the problem. The dog has made it very clear that she likes your ds, but doesn't like your dd, yet your dd keeps pressuring the dog to be the pet she wants -- and not accepting him as the dog he is. I know she is only 8, but she's old enough to know that she shouldn't pester the dog or try to cuddle with him, because he doesn't like it. Honestly, your dog sounds unhappy. If your ds isn't going to give him enough attention to keep him happy, I can understand why he is getting more ill-behaved. Please don't think I'm judging you -- I'm just thinking that the dog may be a great dog... for someone else. If your dd can't stop annoying the dog, and if your ds doesn't give him enough attention, and you don't really want to fuss over him, either, I think you would be doing him (and yourselves) a favor by finding him a new home without young children. I would have a serious talk with your ds about it, first, though, as it's his dog and he might be willing to work with him if the only other option was re-homing the dog. :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momof3littles Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 We had a dog with issues pre-kids, and took him to a top notch veterinary school's behavior clinic. He was diagnosed with fear aggression and given an RX for prozac. We've had him about 9 years since his diagnosis and have a good understanding of him. We worked with him extensively before having kids and found a trainer who really got his issues, perhaps even better than the vet school. Everything was positive discipline, we did a lot of clicker training, we participated in a small group that of dogs that had special needs and had to work on socialization with people and other animals, etc. and it was very, very helpful. That said, now that I have 3 kids, I am not sure I'd have the time to start from scratch to work with him. I would probably try to get medical issues ruled in or out, I would consider consulting with a behavior clinic like the one we went to, as I feel that was $ well spent. We saw a team of 3 vets, 2 vet techs, and several students ranging from first to fourth year. They really helped us understand what was going on. But I also think that not everyone has the time or ability to handle that, and truthfully at this point in my life, I'm not sure I would, even though I did it in the past, kwim? I do think general vets are not the best for behavior issues. I would look for a vet school with a behavior clinic if you have one within driving distance. They really do "get" it, and can give you concrete suggestions that extend beyond the more typical obedience type training. The prozac my dog takes is very affordable and just a few bucks a month from costco for the generic. If you talk to a vet school behavior clinic maybe they will know someone who would be willing to work with your dog, or a rescue that can deal with the behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz4me Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 It is a snoodle (mini poodle/schnauzer mix) and about 20# We told the vet how she was acting and about the biting. I know some sort of blood test was done and a check up but not a thyroid test. Vet said the dog was 100%, no signs of any arthritis. she was alert and so on. She just told us some dogs do not like children and will tolerate those in the home and to give the dog her space. In other words, treat her like you would the grumpy aunt who comes for a visit...treat her nice and leave her alone. Given the mix, the dog's behavior isn't surprising. Miniature Schnauzers were bred from terriers. Their original intended purpose in life was to be ratters, much like Jack Russell Terriers. As such they can be fiesty, determined little dogs who don't take kindly to interference. Sometimes with a mix you get a good roll of the dice (in this case, that would mean a softening of the Schnauzer temperment by the crossing with a Poodle). But sometimes you get a bad roll of the dice. What it seems to me you've likely gotten is a very cute little dog who looks like an angel and acts like a ratter. He's likely a much more serious dog than his looks indicate, which no doubt is why he gets along better with your (older) DS than with DD who wants to treat him like a baby doll. I think your vet is absolutely right in describing how best to treat the dog. Unfortunately, it seems this is very difficult for your DD. And I think it's also very likely that the dog is bored out of his mind. His terrier heritage tells him he needs something physical to do. His poodle heritage gives him a brain that needs to be engaged and challenged--with learning obedience and tricks and being taught all sorts of names for toys, etc. That's a long way of saying I think your dog would best be served in a new home. There's no shame in that. Just make sure you rehome him responsibly, which includes disclosing everything about his behavior and bite history. He really sounds as if he needs an adult or teenager/adult home where someone is able to spend some time exercising and training him. Given his mix and his still relatively young age, you may be able to get a rescue group to take him. I doubt he would be hard to place in a new home. Smallish, low-shedding dogs always seem to be in high demand. I do recommend if you decide to keep him that you have a thyroid test done. It's common in middle-aged dogs, and a common cause of aggressive behavior. If you place him with a reputable rescue group and tell them his issues, I feel sure one of the first things they'll do is test his thyroid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songsparrow Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 It sounds like your family and this dog are not an appropriate match. If you did not have children in the home, or if the dog had shown warning signs of aggression but had not yet bitten anyone, I would give you a number of pieces of advice about what you could try. But since this dog has bitten your 8 year old daughter twice, I think that you should rehome this dog immediately. Until you are able to have the dog out of your house, I would not allow your daughter and the dog to be alone unsupervised - and ideally not allow them to come into contact at all, supervised or not (because another bite could happen in a split second, without any obvious provocation). I have heard that it can be very difficult to rehome a dog that has bitten a person; I have heard that most shelters will not take them, for instance. I don't have any first-hand experience, so I can't say for sure. But be prepared that your only option may be to put the dog down. ETA: You might want to search and see if there is a dog sanctuary in your area that takes in dogs who are not adoptable because of aggression issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have a cat. She tolerates my 8 year old. I got the cat when DS was 5. He was never mean to the cat, but 5 year olds tend to be quite skitzy and unpredictable towards animals so I think it just made the cat uneasy. So that cat does not really go near him much to his dismay. I just got a second cat this weekend. The cat LOVES my 8 year old. The cat is all over him, sleeps on his bed, etc. My 8 year old is so thrilled. I'm happy too. He was starting to feel bad that our other cat doesn't love him. It's probably something like that. I think you are right. We got the dog when dd was 1. We never left them alone together and always taught her the proper way to pet and be around dogs but small kids will not pet as gently or the right may or hug the dog as gently as a teen/adult. So chances are the dog views dd as a irritating giant bug. We had a pug prior to the snoodle (died during our Katrina evacuation) but this dog was built for kids. When we decided to get another dog the only reason we did not go with a pug was they shed terribly otherwise we would have a pug right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhschool Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I think you should tell the child who keeps trying to hug the dog when the dog doesn't want to, to stop. I also think you should make the child who is responsible for picking up after the dog, to do it. Picking up the mess won't change just because you get a nicer dog. Also, did you try regular obedience classes? I mean once a week, with consistent training from all the family members? (Not your friend, but take the dog to its own lessons.) It sounds like you could make it work if you became quite firm with 1. the cuddly child (no hugging!) 2. the otherwise busy child (dog duty now!) 3. the dog (no bark! time out!) 4. the whole family (everyone follows the same rules helping train the dog). Dogs love to listen if you can get in their heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDays Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 My parents have a schnoodle. She's very sweet, and even likes kids.... For very, very brief periods of time. I don't think she'd be suited to living in a house with any full time. My best friend has a mini schnauzer, and she is really not good with kids.... She tolerates my friend's own children, but they pretty much have to kennel her if other kids are there. Now, I'm sure there are dogs of those breeds out there who do love kids, but I don't think that in general, they make great dogs to be loving pets for a whole family. Either way, the dog isn't happy and neither are any of you. I think a household with only adults or possibly teens would be a good fit for her. If you do get another dog, have the whole family involved in meeting and choosing her, and select one with a very easygoing personality. We have had a beagle, a lab, and a standard poodle, and hands down, this poodle has the best disposition I've ever seen in a dog. Good luck... It's a hard decision to make, but sounds like the right one. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_the_Rabbit_Hole Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Thank you all for the input. I believe our family is going to have a very important meeting tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Thank you all for the input. I believe our family is going to have a very important meeting tonight. I hope it goes well, and that you are all in agreement about whatever you decide to do. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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