QueenCat Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Here is a link to the Pisa test, which forms the national rankings in education. See how you do and answer the poll :001_smile:. If you want others in your house, like a dh to take it, or a child, you can choose more than one poll answer. http://microsite.smithsonianmag.com/content/Finland-School-Quiz/ Edited September 1, 2011 by CathieC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyable Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Well, I did better on that than on the "Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader" game I just played on facebook, lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Is this really a telling representation of the PISA? This PISA, on which American students scored thus: The three-yearly OECD Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) report, which compares the knowledge and skills of 15-year-olds in 70 countries around the world, ranked the United States 14th out of 34 OECD countries for reading skills, 17th for science and a below-average 25th for mathematics. Mercy. What a lame test it was, if this sample is representative, yet we ranked so miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritaserum Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I answered them all correctly and would be pretty disappointed if a 15yo of mine couldn't score well. The questions weren't difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 That was, indeed, lame. I mean, the math was especially easy. And I'm not someone who did very well at high school math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 Is this really a telling representation of the PISA? This PISA, on which American students scored thus: The three-yearly OECD Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) report, which compares the knowledge and skills of 15-year-olds in 70 countries around the world, ranked the United States 14th out of 34 OECD countries for reading skills, 17th for science and a below-average 25th for mathematics. Mercy. What a lame test it was, if this sample is representative, yet we ranked so miserably. The article said their test was made up of questions from prior PISA tests. Any 10th grader who does not have a learning disability (or something similar) should be able to do well on this test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DianeW88 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Is this really a telling representation of the PISA? This PISA, on which American students scored thus: The three-yearly OECD Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) report, which compares the knowledge and skills of 15-year-olds in 70 countries around the world, ranked the United States 14th out of 34 OECD countries for reading skills, 17th for science and a below-average 25th for mathematics. Mercy. What a lame test it was, if this sample is representative, yet we ranked so miserably. If it is, we are in more trouble than I originally thought. That test was simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMama Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 That was for 15 yr????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I answered them all correctly, thank goodness, because I'm currently homeschooling a 10th grader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 That was for 15 yr????? Yes :ohmy:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Here is a link to the Pisa test, No, this test is NOT the PISA test. Here is a link to real questions. http://pisa-sq.acer.edu.au/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Yes :ohmy:. No, this was not the real test. http://pisa-sq.acer.edu.au/ is a lot harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 No, this test is NOT the PISA test. Here is a link to real questions. http://pisa-sq.acer.edu.au/ Thank you! I've been googling, trying to find out if all 10th graders really need to be able to comprehend is a library schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 No, this test is NOT the PISA test. Here is a link to real questions. http://pisa-sq.acer.edu.au/ Hmmm... the Smithsonian is saying it is a sampling from prior PISA tests. For 15 year old students. I'm trying to find what age the test link you provided is for... do they test at higher grades than 10th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 No, this test is NOT the PISA test. Here is a link to real questions. http://pisa-sq.acer.edu.au/ Just discovered some of the questions are the same from my original link and your link. So both are showing questions from the PISA. My original link has fewer questions in it's sample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 No, this was not the real test.http://pisa-sq.acer.edu.au/ is a lot harder. Actually, it is a sample from the real PISA. Additionally, some of the questions are the same as the ones in your link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The first question from regentrude's link was also in CathieC's link, the one about government spending, chocolate, guilt, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Actually, it is a sample from the real PISA. Additionally, some of the questions are the same as the ones in your link. Yes, but somehow they just picked the easy ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Yes, but somehow they just picked the easy ones True... and not surprising, if you think about it... It's still not terribly difficult though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpedIntoTheDeepEndFirst Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'm not sure what the point of the reading was in some of the questions. Shouldn't they have known the answer anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 That was super easy.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usetoschool Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I got 19 right and my 12 year old, who is pretty average, got 16 right. I always knew the US scored badly but it is even more discouraging when I see the questions. Many of the Smithsonian ones were just kind of common sense. Maybe that is what the US is lacking - big picture common sense and reasoning abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise in Florida Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I answered them all correctly and would be pretty disappointed if a 15yo of mine couldn't score well. The questions weren't difficult. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen in PA Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I answered them all correctly and would be pretty disappointed if a 15yo of mine couldn't score well. The questions weren't difficult. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catz Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I answered them all correctly and would be pretty disappointed if a 15yo of mine couldn't score well. The questions weren't difficult. :iagree: I'm going to let my 10 year old have a crack at this later this weekend. Seems WAY too simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivka Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I am embarrassed to admit that I got the pizza question wrong, because I didn't account for the order of the toppings not mattering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Did anyone else have to sing the Blue's Clues planet song to get #17 right? I'm beat, it's the only way I could remember. :D I got them all right-though I made an educated guess at one. I'm going to have the 12 yo take it. Edited September 2, 2011 by justamouse it was a kute kitteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerPoppy Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Shockingly simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypamama Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 That was super easy. I'm pretty sure I had to figure out much harder questions in order to pass tenth grade classes! Where were the questions about Beowulf and stoichiometry?? I think I'll see how many of them my 9yo can get right tomorrow. If the 6yo could read fluently, I think he could figure out some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simka2 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Okay the planet one threw me :confused:. Please someone explain how the answer is Mercury when Mercury was never mentioned in the information portion. Maybe I took this to late at night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritaserum Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Okay the planet one threw me :confused:. Please someone explain how the answer is Mercury when Mercury was never mentioned in the information portion. Maybe I took this to late at night! It's the only one of the options between Earth and the sun. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iona Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Okay the planet one threw me :confused:. Please someone explain how the answer is Mercury when Mercury was never mentioned in the information portion. Maybe I took this to late at night! mercury is closer to the sun than the earth...so it would be the only planet (other than venus) to pass between the earth and the sun. unfortunately "3rd rock from the sun" is what helped me remember. i got the short answer questions wrong...I wasn't sure if i could give myself partial credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Is this really a telling representation of the PISA? This PISA, on which American students scored thus: The three-yearly OECD Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) report, which compares the knowledge and skills of 15-year-olds in 70 countries around the world, ranked the United States 14th out of 34 OECD countries for reading skills, 17th for science and a below-average 25th for mathematics. Mercy. What a lame test it was, if this sample is representative, yet we ranked so miserably. It was not hard for me. I got them all right. I answered the poll for my son's attempt. He missed half of one of the yes/no questions. He is 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Okay the planet one threw me :confused:. Please someone explain how the answer is Mercury when Mercury was never mentioned in the information portion. Maybe I took this to late at night! oh the sun's a hot star, and mercury's hot too, venus is the brightest planet, and earth's home to me and you, mars is the red one, and jupiter's most wide, saturn's got those icy rings and uranus spins on its side, neptune's really windy, and pluto's really small, well you wanted to name the planets, and now we named them all. sun mercury venus earth thank you blues clues :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie in Oh Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 though one I answered because it was what I thought they were looking for, not what I thought to be true. I am thinking that can not be representative of what we are producing in the world, can it? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyofsixreboot Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I got them all right. My 13yo 7th grader only missed 2 and the 10yo 5th grader missed 5. Not sure how a 15 yo couldn't do well.:001_huh: My 15 yo looked at 2 question, declared it " dumb" and walked away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I misread one question, got one maths wrong (forgot the formula for permutations and combinations) and got one science wrong ( I didn't know the order of the planets). Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 19. I took it a few days ago when my uncle sent the link to me and then I had the boys each try it. The 14 year old earned an 18, the almost 13 year old earned 19, and the 11 year old earned a 17 - he really wasn't certain exactly what to say about the civic guilt "essay"....he is a really literal kid and a bit obtuse when it comes to literature. So, had there been a LOT of literary, writing style, symbolism, "what is the writer getting at" type questions, OUCH! If you ever seen an episode of the Fox show "Bones", he is an awful lot like Zack! Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy in NH Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I learned the order of the planets in 4-H (as a leader): My Very Educated Mother Just Showed Us Nine Planets Mercury Venus Earth Mars Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto (I refuse to accept that Pluto is not a planet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepyl Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 That was super easy, I will have to check out the second link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda in TX Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The first question from regentrude's link was also in CathieC's link, the one about government spending, chocolate, guilt, etc. That's true, but I do think they picked the easier questions. For example, it's pretty easy to tell that the circle has a larger area than the other shapes, but it would be more difficult to give a method for figuring out the area for one of those non-circle shapes. That was asked on the longer test sample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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