TravelingChris Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 https://ktla.com/news/california/father-arrested-after-taking-2-year-old-inside-elephant-enclosure-at-san-diego-zoo/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Craziness. I wonder if he was on something. I miss San Diego!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 I bet that he thought that he and his child were special snowflakes who didn't have to obey the signs and could have their own personal up-close look at the elephants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, MercyA said: Craziness. I wonder if he was on something. I miss San Diego!!! That was my first thought as well - drugs or inebriated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 hours ago, MercyA said: Craziness. I wonder if he was on something. Probably not. People are this stupid all of the time. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Jean in Newcastle said: I bet that he thought that he and his child were special snowflakes who didn't have to obey the signs and could have their own personal up-close look at the elephants. If there's one thing this past year has showed us, it's just how many special snowflakes are out there. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 hours ago, ktgrok said: That was my first thought as well - drugs or inebriated. There are crazy people who will do anything to be able to post selfies on social media with an african elephant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalmia Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) I used to work at a zoo in NYC. People are nuts. The craziest visitor story I have is the man who got into the porcupine enclosure and started shaking the young tree that the porcupine was in. I mean, did he not think it possible he'd shake that porcupine right down on his own head? Luckily the porcupine had a tenacious grip and security came right away. Edited March 20, 2021 by Kalmia 3 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Tiggywinkle Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 I’ve been a paramedic over thirteen years. I can assure you: people do the dumbest things. 9 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyoffive Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, mathnerd said: There are crazy people who will do anything to be able to post selfies on social media with an african elephant. Yep this is what I bet happened. Crazy that the elephants charged them. They are so lucky they didn't get hurt. I have been to this zoo a few times and isn't it more of an open air zoo than normal zoos? Like they have a safari where you ride a tram to see the animals? I have been to this exhibit, but I can't remember the barriers and how they are set up. But as we have seen in the past there are barriers and still the people get to the animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Remember the tiger that jumped out of his enclosure in San Francisco at Christmas time a few years back and killed one guy and mauled another? They had advanced to the second railing, and were trying to incite her. Once she jumped out, she killed one and chased the other through the zoo, with great specificity. It was the week of the shortest days of the year, and around 5PM it’s deep dusk then, and that zoo is almost always foggy. It took a while to even figure out what was going on. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brehon Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said: I’ve been a paramedic over thirteen years. I can assure you: people do the dumbest things. As a 25 year medic in a different part of the country, I completely agree. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, MercyA said: If there's one thing this past year has showed us, it's just how many special snowflakes are out there. Absolutely. Way too many 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Carol in Cal. said: Remember the tiger that jumped out of his enclosure in San Francisco at Christmas time a few years back and killed one guy and mauled another? They had advanced to the second railing, and were trying to incite her. Once she jumped out, she killed one and chased the other through the zoo, with great specificity. It was the week of the shortest days of the year, and around 5PM it’s deep dusk then, and that zoo is almost always foggy. It took a while to even figure out what was going on. What I was sad about was that they killed the tiger. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, TravelingChris said: What I was sad about was that they killed the tiger. I was sad about a bunch of things, but once a big cat has tasted human flesh it becomes extremely dangerous. I don’t know whether this is the same one that had bitten a feeder’s lower arm off, but I was surprised that that one was not euthanized at the time. The main thing is that anyone who has ever seen a house cat clamber up a fence would have thought that those tigers could get out. The wall was not even close to tall enough to completely prevent it. And that was absolutely unacceptable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 I was watching a recorded BBC Travel show this morning on which there was sn older segment shown of a wild animal rescue in Thailand where the animals were in the place because people had taken them into their homes or used them as tourist attractions where people fo things like ride a lion/tiger hybrid or cuddle w baby orangutans etc. And then I saw this story later and thought how it was such similar behavior. And yes, a little of the special snowflake people seem to be also quite dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyA Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, mommyoffive said: I have been to this zoo a few times and isn't it more of an open air zoo than normal zoos? Like they have a safari where you ride a tram to see the animals? I have been to this exhibit, but I can't remember the barriers and how they are set up. But as we have seen in the past there are barriers and still the people get to the animals. San Diego Zoo and San Diego Wild Animal Park are two different zoos. The Wild Animal Park has more open spaces and a safari tram. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyoffive Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, MercyA said: San Diego Zoo and San Diego Wild Animal Park are two different zoos. The Wild Animal Park has more open spaces and a safari tram. Oh my bad. Sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Tiggywinkle Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, brehon said: As a 25 year medic in a different part of the country, I completely agree. I don’t know about you, but the level of dumbness is directly proportional to how much longer is left in my shift. The closer I am to going home, the dumber the decisions people are making. 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brehon Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 53 minutes ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said: I don’t know about you, but the level of dumbness is directly proportional to how much longer is left in my shift. The closer I am to going home, the dumber the decisions people are making. God’s own truth, my friend. That, and the closer I get to retirement, the more I work internally to stifle my irritation with the stupidity. I am not always successful. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-rap Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Wow, I just heard about this this evening. Absolutely crazy. My first thought though wasn't that he believed they were special snowflakes, but that he was just very dumb. I'm glad everyone (including the elephant!) is okay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 13 hours ago, mommyoffive said: Yep this is what I bet happened. Crazy that the elephants charged them. They are so lucky they didn't get hurt. I have been to this zoo a few times and isn't it more of an open air zoo than normal zoos? Like they have a safari where you ride a tram to see the animals? I have been to this exhibit, but I can't remember the barriers and how they are set up. But as we have seen in the past there are barriers and still the people get to the animals. The San Diego Zoo has two different sections. One in town is a more like a traditional zoo and the other one is outside of San Diego, and that is the one you are thinking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 People are so stupid. If I were this child's mom, I'd be concerned that leaving my child with the dad was unsafe pretty much always. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terabith Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 42 minutes ago, QueenCat said: People are so stupid. If I were this child's mom, I'd be concerned that leaving my child with the dad was unsafe pretty much always. Yeah, honestly, I would think a CPS investigation would be warranted based on whether or not the father has good judgment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingChris Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 58 minutes ago, Terabith said: Yeah, honestly, I would think a CPS investigation would be warranted based on whether or not the father has good judgment. Yes, I agree that a CPS investigation should be started. All too often one isn't started soon enough, especially w drug abusers. Just one of the heartbreaking stories - one that I saw today https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/20/us/kentucky-fentanyl-overdose-trnd/index.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 The story I read said that he actually dropped the child while running. He is being held on child cruelty charges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbutton Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 The only plausible explanation I can think of is that he's from some other country where zoos are more open (I have heard about zoos that are more open from people who live overseas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 11:08 PM, Jean in Newcastle said: The story I read said that he actually dropped the child while running. He is being held on child cruelty charges. You can see the video here. 23 hours ago, kbutton said: The only plausible explanation I can think of is that he's from some other country where zoos are more open (I have heard about zoos that are more open from people who live overseas). He had to breach multiple barriers to get into the enclosure, so there's no way he thought it was allowed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/20/2021 at 4:44 PM, Carol in Cal. said: Remember the tiger that jumped out of his enclosure in San Francisco at Christmas time a few years back and killed one guy and mauled another? We went that day and left at closing time. We heard the news on the car ride home. It was in 2007 On 3/20/2021 at 5:24 PM, Carol in Cal. said: . I don’t know whether this is the same one that had bitten a feeder’s lower arm off, but I was surprised that that one was not euthanized at the time. Same tiger. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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