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2 minutes ago, bookbard said:

Already had convos re ventilation - it is windows only. I've even emailed principal saying we'll fundraise for air purifiers if necessary (only 2 classes, so cost would be low) - nothing. 

 

I am really shocked and saddened by this huge jump overnight. 

And OHS have said we can't bring in our own air purifiers because of safety risks 🙁

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4 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:

I think predictions are that numbers will be 2500 per day by middle of next month. 

 

Dd is extreemy isolated. I am very  concerned though. Her inlaws that live very close to her are covid deniers 

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Will DD consider getting vaccinated? 

We were predicted to get to over 2000/day but instead numbers stabilised. I hope it works that way for VIC. 

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10 hours ago, RootAnn said:

I can hear the sarcasm here, but for those who haven't been following the latest as closely, at this point, there is no known 'herd immunity' level for covid. (That is, a level at which transmission drops off because a large portion of the community is immune to the disease.) So, sadly, ML is saying NSW officials are trying to get the latest surge going strong in hopes it will drop off before Christmas. 

I've seen many references to surges lasting 7-9 weeks (with long tails). So, perhaps there is some logic there, just not the humanitarian logic that people would like to see employed.

Yep. That's the plan! 

As a vulnerable worker, I feel like my health has nil value. 

What is being prioritised here is the Federal government wanting to best position themselves for an upcoming Federal election. 

 

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Just now, ktgrok said:

Here in the USA it has become VERY clear that Covid is a much much much bigger risk during pregnancy than vaccination is. 

Yeah. Eith the original strain, zi would have said wait. Pregnant women that got it were fine. But Delta, ueah I would get tge vaccine, but them also worry about long term harm to my fetus. I gave up coffee for my babies. I didnt want to put anything foreign in my body. I would be scared to death to get it, but I kniw of 3 examples where moms and babies died or almost did snd now have long term problems. But man, I understand the hesitancy. Such an awful choice.  

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Just now, TexasProud said:

Yeah. Eith the original strain, zi would have said wait. Pregnant women that got it were fine. But Delta, ueah I would get tge vaccine, but them also worry about long term harm to my fetus. I gave up coffee for my babies. I didnt want to put anything foreign in my body. I would be scared to death to get it, but I kniw of 3 examples where moms and babies died or almost did snd now have long term problems. But man, I understand the hesitancy. Such an awful choice.  

Yeah, I am a crunchy granola homebirthng lady, but too many women are having stillbirths, or ending up in the ICU or dying themselves, with Covid. Its pretty awful. 

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6 minutes ago, ktgrok said:

Here in the USA it has become VERY clear that Covid is a much much much bigger risk during pregnancy than vaccination is. 

My brother was hospitalised twice for blood clots from the vaccine ( possibly a mild stroke )

I would personally go with isolation instead of vaccine while pregnant , given our now family history.

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1 hour ago, Melissa Louise said:

And OHS have said we can't bring in our own air purifiers because of safety risks 🙁

Argh. I’ve seen people saying they have had this issue, but some have been able to fight it. The corsi-rosenthal boxes have been tested by the EPA and shown not to pose a fire risk. https://chemicalinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/DIY-Box-Fan-Report-2021.pdf?utm_source=Chemical+Insights&utm_campaign=d52ba63ea8-July_2021_Newsletter7_13_2021_13_4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_09fecf83d2-d52ba63ea8-119531236
That probably doesn’t help you since it’s not an Australian agency though. They won’t accept ones that pass whatever your electrical safety underwriting guidelines are? I’ll let you know if I ever see this discussed specific to Australia. 
 

eta: on the pregnancy thing, the CDC just released an urgent health advisory urging pregnant women to get vaccinated due to the dramatic increased risk. The mRNA vaccines aren’t associated with blood clots, fwiw. 

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1 hour ago, Melissa Louise said:

Pregnancy puts her at a heightened risk of hospitalization and ICU. 

And sadly, death and stillbirth. Not wanting to be scary, but it greatly increases her risks. Vaccination not only protects her, but the baby as well.

ETA: I don't know about the AZ, but Pfizer and Moderna are considered good, I believe. DD had Moderna in early pregnancy; at that time I was worried, but realized that her job put her at greater risk than the vaccine. Then soon after, I read that babies were being born with antibodies, so that was encouraging as well.

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1 hour ago, Melissa in Australia said:

My brother was hospitalised twice for blood clots from the vaccine ( possibly a mild stroke )

I would personally go with isolation instead of vaccine while pregnant , given our now family history.

Oh, isolation is good - but with covid denying family members nearby may be difficult. 

I would choose an mRNA vaccine though, if pregnant - but not sure that's even an option there. 

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Just now, ktgrok said:

Oh, isolation is good - but with covid denying family members nearby may be difficult. 

I would choose an mRNA vaccine though, if pregnant - but not sure that's even an option there. 

It’s pretty available here now, we’ve all had it except my youngest who is 9.  I’m not sure about rural VIC.

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ABC 
More than 500 cases linked to grand final weekend gatherings, COVID commander says

Jeroen Weimar is up now — and he's said pretty clearly that social gatherings on AFL grand final weekend are part of why Victoria's cases spiked so high today.

"The contact tracers tell us that there have been significant numbers of social gatherings on Friday and Saturday, over a long weekend. Grand final parties. Other social gatherings, barbecues, backyard visits. This has generated a significant case load," he says.

"A third of our cases are due directly to those different types of social gatherings, as people have dropped their guard, and decided now it's the grand final weekend, it's the long weekend, we deserve a bit of a payback, we deserve a nicer time. And that has now translated into additional 500 cases from when we expected to see today."

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15 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

ABC 
More than 500 cases linked to grand final weekend gatherings, COVID commander says

Jeroen Weimar is up now — and he's said pretty clearly that social gatherings on AFL grand final weekend are part of why Victoria's cases spiked so high today.

"The contact tracers tell us that there have been significant numbers of social gatherings on Friday and Saturday, over a long weekend. Grand final parties. Other social gatherings, barbecues, backyard visits. This has generated a significant case load," he says.

"A third of our cases are due directly to those different types of social gatherings, as people have dropped their guard, and decided now it's the grand final weekend, it's the long weekend, we deserve a bit of a payback, we deserve a nicer time. And that has now translated into additional 500 cases from when we expected to see today."

This is infuriating. 

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The 19 cases are only in Auckland. The rest of NZ is still covid free ( and has been for 15 months). PM said that when Auckland drops back it's restrictions (possibly on Wednesday), it's regional border will stay so they will be unable to mingle with the rest of us until it is gone. Today they are at 83% vaccinated in Auckland (first dose), and assuming they will get all of them the second dose in the next 6 weeks. They have finally put a number out there-- they are going for 90 percent of over 12s. They have free taxis services, walk ins, and roaming vaccine busses. They are starting a friendly rivalry between regions for who has the higher percent and businesses are joining in the competition. All political parties are on the same side on this issue. Every day is push push push. Do your part and get vaccinated. Vaccines equal freedom. Protect the children. Etc. 

 

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46 minutes ago, lewelma said:

. They are starting a friendly rivalry between regions for who has the higher percent and businesses are joining in the competition.

This is so smart. 
 

 

47 minutes ago, lewelma said:

All political parties are on the same side on this issue. Every day is push push push. Do your part and get vaccinated. Vaccines equal freedom. Protect the children

So is this. 

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1 case here in SA in a truck driver who has been in Vic.  Thanks to testing etc he was picked up pretty quickly as he tested negative.  He’d had one dose of vaccine and the rest of his family are vaccinated except one child who is two young.  They’ve all tested negative thankfully as the wife works in aged care.

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https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/science/coronavirus-can-transform-pancreas-cell-function-certain-genes-may-protect-an-2021-09-29/?fbclid=IwAR3YlE7uktggbNtpuwInc8-cuFnNMnG89oS9P_eaqU-qsaFp3UtJdJu0q1U

The article very briefly summarizes three lines of research: change in cell function with Covid, susceptibility to Covid, and a potential early treatment option (pill)

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Looks like I’m one of the few to catch Covid twice! DH caught it between Christmas and New Year and passed it in to me and our 2 teens. The teens were mild and recovered in 2-3 weeks. DH and I didn’t recover for months. He felt better after his first vaccine shot, I didn’t. By May and no income I slowly went back to work and gradually increased my hours. Was feeling so much better, but still budgeting my energy. Double vaxed. Now I’ve tested positive again! 
 

I’ve been a lurker here for many years. I tried to sign in before, but couldn’t work it out. Started homeschooling in 1998, teens now doing high school virtually.

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2 hours ago, mumof6 said:

Looks like I’m one of the few to catch Covid twice! DH caught it between Christmas and New Year and passed it in to me and our 2 teens. The teens were mild and recovered in 2-3 weeks. DH and I didn’t recover for months. He felt better after his first vaccine shot, I didn’t. By May and no income I slowly went back to work and gradually increased my hours. Was feeling so much better, but still budgeting my energy. Double vaxed. Now I’ve tested positive again! 
 

Oh dear! I'm so sorry! I hope your infection passes quickly and easily this time. Are you the only one in your family who has it again this time?

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1 minute ago, KSera said:

Oh dear! I'm so sorry! I hope your infection passes quickly and easily this time. Are you the only one in your family who has it again this time?

Yes, so far. Everyone is getting tested tomorrow. I got retested this morning in case it was a false positive. But I’m feeling yucky. Hopefully it will be mild and no one else catches it from me!

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47 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

ICAC.

Things could go from bad to worse depending on her replacement. 

Yeah.

Although I suspect that might be the main reason but she’s also lost support over the Covid response so it might be about that a bit behind the scenes I guess.  

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