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Potential for False Positive Results with Certain Lots of Ellume COVID-19 Home Tests Due to a Manufacturing Issue: FDA Safety Communication https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/potential-false-positive-results-certain-lots-ellume-covid-19-home-tests-due-manufacturing-issue-fda

“Date Issued: October 5, 2021

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is alerting test users, caregivers, health care personnel, and the public of the potential for false positive results with certain lots of the Ellume COVID-19 Home Test, due to a recently identified manufacturing issue. For these tests, a “false positive” is a test result that indicates that a person has the virus when they do not actually have it. Negative results do not appear to be affected by the manufacturing issue.

The FDA is working closely with Ellume to assess the company’s additional manufacturing checks and other corrective steps to help ensure that the issue is resolved.

A complete list of affected Ellume COVID-19 Home Tests can be found on Ellume’s website

photo of Ellume Covid-19 home test box
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NSW Premier looking at removing workplace mask mandates even earlier than Dec 1.

I don't get it. Dumb little me on the interwebs can see what's happening in Singapore, and understand that high vaccination rates alone may not be enough to control Covid. Are they just gambling on NSW exceptionalism? 

 

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5 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

NSW Premier looking at removing workplace mask mandates even earlier than Dec 1.

I don't get it. Dumb little me on the interwebs can see what's happening in Singapore, and understand that high vaccination rates alone may not be enough to control Covid. Are they just gambling on NSW exceptionalism? 

 

There is no such thing as a high vaccination rate until kids can be vaccinated. I don't get why the powers that be can't understand that! If you have a reisvoir of unvaccinated people hanging out, playing, etc together, you are not going to contain this! They bring it home to their vaccinated parents who, with that level of viral exposure (kissing and hugging on their sick kids) get breakthrough infections. I'm watching it in real time with my sister, but it's happenign all over. 

WHY is that so hard for people to understand?? You can't relax masking and such until ALL ages can be vaccinated! 90% isn't ACTUALLY 90% if you aren't counting kids!

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12 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

NSW Premier looking at removing workplace mask mandates even earlier than Dec 1.

I don't get it. Dumb little me on the interwebs can see what's happening in Singapore, and understand that high vaccination rates alone may not be enough to control Covid. Are they just gambling on NSW exceptionalism? 

 

Masks are compulsory as well and yet there are 3,486 new cases and 9 deaths   for October 5th in Singapore.

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26 minutes ago, ktgrok said:

There is no such thing as a high vaccination rate until kids can be vaccinated. I don't get why the powers that be can't understand that! If you have a reisvoir of unvaccinated people hanging out, playing, etc together, you are not going to contain this! They bring it home to their vaccinated parents who, with that level of viral exposure (kissing and hugging on their sick kids) get breakthrough infections. I'm watching it in real time with my sister, but it's happenign all over. 

WHY is that so hard for people to understand?? You can't relax masking and such until ALL ages can be vaccinated! 90% isn't ACTUALLY 90% if you aren't counting kids!

It's just so frustrating. 

So many good ideas to open up as safely as possible, so little will to implement. 

Just found out one of my kindy kids has Covid - her parents too 🙁

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1 hour ago, Melissa Louise said:

Do NSW numbers make sense to you? It's such a drop..is it trustworthy? 

I’m not there to know what numbers on the ground look like but the curve kind of seems to make sense?  I think it has to be vax rates driving it down mostly.  I think Coronacast has said a couple of times the difference between NSW and Vic is the number of seeding events?

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1 hour ago, Arcadia said:

@Melissa in Australia@Melissa Louise@Ausmumof3@chocolate-chip chooky@Rosie_0801

Potential for False Positive Results with Certain Lots of Ellume COVID-19 Home Tests Due to a Manufacturing Issue: FDA Safety Communication https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/potential-false-positive-results-certain-lots-ellume-covid-19-home-tests-due-manufacturing-issue-fda

“Date Issued: October 5, 2021

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is alerting test users, caregivers, health care personnel, and the public of the potential for false positive results with certain lots of the Ellume COVID-19 Home Test, due to a recently identified manufacturing issue. For these tests, a “false positive” is a test result that indicates that a person has the virus when they do not actually have it. Negative results do not appear to be affected by the manufacturing issue.

The FDA is working closely with Ellume to assess the company’s additional manufacturing checks and other corrective steps to help ensure that the issue is resolved.

A complete list of affected Ellume COVID-19 Home Tests can be found on Ellume’s website

photo of Ellume Covid-19 home test box

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1 hour ago, ktgrok said:

There is no such thing as a high vaccination rate until kids can be vaccinated. I don't get why the powers that be can't understand that! If you have a reisvoir of unvaccinated people hanging out, playing, etc together, you are not going to contain this! They bring it home to their vaccinated parents who, with that level of viral exposure (kissing and hugging on their sick kids) get breakthrough infections. I'm watching it in real time with my sister, but it's happenign all over. 

WHY is that so hard for people to understand?? You can't relax masking and such until ALL ages can be vaccinated! 90% isn't ACTUALLY 90% if you aren't counting kids!

Plus we aren’t even giving boosters to our healthcare workers or vulnerable who got vaccinated in March yet 

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46 minutes ago, Melissa Louise said:

Forgive the personal me-covid-job update.

Talked to the principal and she was great. Option to take a mix of paid and unpaid leave if need be, but also some plans and thought re spaces/roles. 

Thinking it through, but it's nice to have options. 

Happy to hear this for you!

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9 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:

Apparently the US is having save Australia protests!  Wow!  Please, please don’t!

Anything to turn the attention elsewhere. Some people here do a lot of that, I’ve noticed. 

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5 hours ago, Melissa Louise said:

Forgive the personal me-covid-job update.

Talked to the principal and she was great. Option to take a mix of paid and unpaid leave if need be, but also some plans and thought re spaces/roles. 

Thinking it through, but it's nice to have options. 

Oh, I'm glad!!!!

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Covid toes study.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58801462?fbclid=IwAR3iCD86iK_IJ98QSozufLlnyheAp3wXE847CX0Paa2NSInpGSaMZZcm8No

The article links to the journal, but not the article, and it's not the only Covid toes article. I don't have time to sort out which one it is right now.

 

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It's now in 3 gangs, who as you can imagine are not super keen to get contact traced. The government is working with the gang bosses and has given 2 of them exemptions to cross the Auckland border to mediate. Also, looks like it is now outside the second lockdown zone, so there is a massive push to get the whole country vaccinated in the next month to 90+%. Lots of inter-party cooperation, and they are having a single weekend where the entire country will focus on just vaccinating. They asked all of us waiting for 6 weeks between doses to get the second dose immediately (but still 3 weeks apart), so my second is now tomorrow. The move of the virus will still be slowed down/stopped by public health measures and lockdowns, but the focus is now on vaccination as the gangs will spread it. Looks like our 15 months of covid free life is about to end. But they have stressed that this is NOT a let-it-rip strategy. They are still calling it elimination because no covid will be tolerated, but it is not longer eradication.

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25 minutes ago, lewelma said:

It's now in 3 gangs, who as you can imagine are not super keen to get contact traced. The government is working with the gang bosses and has given 2 of them exemptions to cross the Auckland border to mediate. Also, looks like it is now outside the second lockdown zone, so there is a massive push to get the whole country vaccinated in the next month to 90+%. Lots of inter-party cooperation, and they are having a single weekend where the entire country will focus on just vaccinating. They asked all of us waiting for 6 weeks between doses to get the second dose immediately (but still 3 weeks apart), so my second is now tomorrow. The move of the virus will still be slowed down/stopped by public health measures and lockdowns, but the focus is now on vaccination as the gangs will spread it. Looks like our 15 months of covid free life is about to end. But they have stressed that this is NOT a let-it-rip strategy. They are still calling it elimination because no covid will be tolerated, but it is not longer eradication.

I hope kids can be vaccinated too, because if those gang members have kids, it will spread that way. 

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12 minutes ago, ktgrok said:

I hope kids can be vaccinated too, because if those gang members have kids, it will spread that way. 

Eligible is currently 12+, and they are expecting to go for 5-12 by Christmas. Modelling has suggested that 95% of current eligible people is required to suppress this thing with under 12s being unvaccinated, but obviously they are saying as close to 100% is what is better. They are also very clear here that it is not an *average* of 90+% that they are after, they want that 90+% evenly distributed geographically and racially, because they know that pockets of poorly vaccinated areas will spread it.

In addition, no one here is under the illusion that kids don't get or transmit it.  Schools are still closed in a city of 2 million people that has 39 cases (and that number is with wide, massive testing and contact tracing, so they don't think there is any more). So we are way way way more cautious than the USA. 

 

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25 minutes ago, lewelma said:

Eligible is currently 12+, and they are expecting to go for 5-12 by Christmas. Modelling has suggested that 95% of current eligible people is required to suppress this thing with under 12s being unvaccinated, but obviously they are saying as close to 100% is what is better. They are also very clear here that it is not an *average* of 90+% that they are after, they want that 90+% evenly distributed geographically and racially, because they know that pockets of poorly vaccinated areas will spread it.

In addition, no one here is under the illusion that kids don't get or transmit it.  Schools are still closed in a city of 2 million people that has 39 cases (and that number is with wide, massive testing and contact tracing, so they don't think there is any more). So we are way way way more cautious than the USA. 

 

Ah, I missed that school are closed. That helps! If you can get the over 12s vaccinated and kids are not mingling in large numbers that will be a big thing. 

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In a strange twist of fate, I think that with the gangs getting it and being less able to be controlled through public health measures, that there is going to be a lot of fear and thus motivation to get vaccinated. So imagine, we have had no covid for 15 months, and then you see every day in the news how it is creeping towards you. You know exactly where it is and the rate it is moving. It is not in your city, but it is coming and you don't have a lot of time. People are very motivated to go get vaccinated who might not have been if the reopening had been more controlled and planned. So this bit of serendipity may drive our vaccine numbers way higher than they would have been otherwise. 

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1 hour ago, ktgrok said:

Ah, I missed that school are closed. That helps! If you can get the over 12s vaccinated and kids are not mingling in large numbers that will be a big thing. 

Currently school holidays here, which helps too.  Govt directive when alert levels shifted on Tuesday (was) for Auckland schools to reopen 18th Oct.  I wonder if this will still happen…..  ( have you heard anything more about this @lewelma?)  

Crèches have  “reopened” in Auckland with limited numbers and a cap of 10 children per care bubble, no crossing bubbles.  

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3 hours ago, lewelma said:

In a strange twist of fate, I think that with the gangs getting it and being less able to be controlled through public health measures, that there is going to be a lot of fear and thus motivation to get vaccinated. So imagine, we have had no covid for 15 months, and then you see every day in the news how it is creeping towards you. You know exactly where it is and the rate it is moving. It is not in your city, but it is coming and you don't have a lot of time. People are very motivated to go get vaccinated who might not have been if the reopening had been more controlled and planned. So this bit of serendipity may drive our vaccine numbers way higher than they would have been otherwise. 

For some reason, people in the US have had a tendency through this whole thing to see it in other cities and think it's an "over there" problem and not a "here" problem. Super common for people to say things like, "we don't have very many cases in my town" as if their area is magically protected. I'm glad it's working differently there and people are seeing the writing on the wall before it gets to them so they can hopefully be protected in time.

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3 hours ago, tuesdayschild said:

Currently school holidays here, which helps too.  Govt directive when alert levels shifted on Tuesday (was) for Auckland schools to reopen 18th Oct.  I wonder if this will still happen…..  ( have you heard anything more about this @lewelma?)  

Crèches have  “reopened” in Auckland with limited numbers and a cap of 10 children per care bubble, no crossing bubbles.  

They announced two days ago the planned (but not finalized) reopening of schools on the 18th Oct. But there has been a lot of pushback by the teachers. Auckland is in a phased reopening and they have said they are signalling plans but not keeping a strict time table as it will depend on the numbers of cases and vaccines. 

 

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1 hour ago, Ausmumof3 said:

ACT is at 96% of over 16s had first dose now.

That's amazing. I was looking at my own area, we're only at 60-69% double dosed, 80-89% first dose, and it hasn't shifted much. I doubt we'll get much over 90% double dosed here - I know a number of pre-existing anti-vaxxers who live here and then there's the 'not sure' people who think 'we're not in the city, so we can't catch it'. Oh, and I still hear people pretty frequently commenting, 'kids don't get it' and 'it's nearly over'. No - and no.

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2 hours ago, bookbard said:

That's amazing. I was looking at my own area, we're only at 60-69% double dosed, 80-89% first dose, and it hasn't shifted much. I doubt we'll get much over 90% double dosed here - I know a number of pre-existing anti-vaxxers who live here and then there's the 'not sure' people who think 'we're not in the city, so we can't catch it'. Oh, and I still hear people pretty frequently commenting, 'kids don't get it' and 'it's nearly over'. No - and no.

It really is amazing! My state, which has had a lot of hospitalizations and deaths is still at only 48% fully vaxed and 54% initiated vaccination. I don’t think we are going to get much higher so I guess it will have to be natural immunity with all that entails.

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22 minutes ago, TCB said:

It really is amazing! My state, which has had a lot of hospitalizations and deaths is still at only 48% fully vaxed and 54% initiated vaccination. I don’t think we are going to get much higher so I guess it will have to be natural immunity with all that entails.

Our stats look better than they are, because they only refer to the eligible population ie over 16 yrs. 

Statewide we've got 70% but its actually only 56% of the population. 

So really, we are opening up with just under half the population unvaccinated. 

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6 hours ago, Melissa Louise said:

Our stats look better than they are, because they only refer to the eligible population ie over 16 yrs. 

Statewide we've got 70% but its actually only 56% of the population. 

So really, we are opening up with just under half the population unvaccinated. 

Reportedly the new roadmap is not fully supported by Dr Chant?

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Florida is reporting 70% vaccinated. Except the fine print 4 pages down explains that includes any vaccination status - single, double, whatever. And of course is only for 12 and up. So 70% of 12 and up having at least one vaccine is not as good as the numbers being touted make it seem. 

The actual useful number is that we are at 58% of the population fully vaccinated. No where NEAR enough for herd immunity. That said, our wave has ended, we are at about 5% positivity, hospitalizations finally dropping dramatically, so the number of people with antibodies from infection is likely high. 

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