Mom to Aly Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Ooh, just saw it--I see no prob! He needs to stand out, of course, and I think it does look rather classical, and quite Washingtontonian, er, Washingtonian, um Washingtonin, oh, you know what I mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacy in NJ Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I was wondering where the vestal virgins come in but now I'm confusing my ancient civilizations :D. You mean, like this one? http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080625/0013729e451809cc16881f.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigitte Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Here's a link with just pictures for those asking. :) Thanks for the link. Personally, I think it looks cheesy. Kind of Disney/Sea World like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karenciavo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Thanks for the link. Personally, I think it looks cheesy. Kind of Disney/Sea World like. The lighting will make all the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Atl Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Who can identify the columns; are they Doric, Ionic or Corinthian? They look Doric.. no fancy stuff at the top. A conservative choice. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen in CO Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Who can identify the columns; are they Doric, Ionic or Corinthian? they look doric to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfside Academy Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 You mean, like this one? http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080625/0013729e451809cc16881f.jpg Oh my gosh...I almost had ice-T come out my nose. Too funny!:lol: and yes...I thought Doric as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 LOL, well it does look like a temple, but they were probably going for a Washingtonian look. I thought moving his speech to that venue was brilliant, but yeah, I think for their own sake the stage needs to be toned down. I agree, I think they were going for a federalist look. Jon Stewart asked Howard Dean this question and Dean looked pretty confused (although I think there was also an audio delay causing problems). I don't think Dean had made the connection between ancient architecture and the neo-classical look you see in most of the monuments in Washington. As a member of a "Classical Education" forum, am I really supposed to get my panties in a twist (hey *anj*) because they chose a stage based on classical architecture??? Should I scorn the Federalists for doing the same in our Nation's capitol? Or is this just plain silly? Bill :D Do you think he will wear a toga? to-GA, to-GA! Am I the only big Animal House fan here? I know it's a very silly movie. I say NO OBAMA O8!!! Pride comes before a FALL!!! This sort of thing makes me cranky. If this should happen, would you want it to be Obama or McCain? McCain or Obama? :D Bill I know where my vote would go... A suggestion to this poster and others who state they "do not want to start a debate but..."then inflammatory ,divisive, partisan rhetoric follows . I am not buying it . It is a means to post inflammatory generally unfounded"facts" from a muckraking type of organization. I do not consider this to be contributing to intelligent, thoughtful discussion of the pertinent issues facing the voting public. By all means exercise your First Amendment rights but please do not be disappointed when the level of discourse being utilized does not change anyone 's mind regarding who is best suited for the highest office in our country. :iagree: And don't mention Hitler. Wait, I just mentioned Hitler! :ack2: :leaving: Sorry... everyone's just so serious around here lately... Aw, the thread has now been Godwined (yes, I made it a verb). They look Doric.. no fancy stuff at the top. A conservative choice. :lol: PS, I had to remove some people's smilies to get this post through, sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Academy of Jedi Arts Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I am cracking up over this thread. But as far as the topic goes- there is a major hurricane with it's eye on New Orleans, a crisis with Russia, a war in Iraq, an an economy that is going to s*** and they are talking about THIS on CNN. :rolleyes: Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Atl Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son. I love this.. a friend of mine has this as her sig... Life is hard, it's harder when your stupid. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Perhaps he'll save that for the inauguration... Given his opinion of himself and his love of faux temples and presidential crests I suspect he will save the laurel leaves for his "coronation". Should our children now all study David's Consecration of the Emperor Napoleon I and Coronation of the Empress Josephine. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Jacques-Louis_David_-_Consecration_of_the_Emperor_Napoleon_I_and_Coronation_of_the_Empress_Josephine).JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdWTMer Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Here's a Pic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam "SFSOM" in TN Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Given his opinion of himself... You've reference his inflated ego twice now that I've seen. Would you be so kind as to link to examples of his uppity-ness, or am I to be left guessing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I think the concert and the speech are what some people are often looking for these days. Some of our churches are a concert, maybe a drama and a sermon. kwim. Personally I am fine with less drama and more substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Lynx Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I am cracking up over this thread. But as far as the topic goes- there is a major hurricane with it's eye on New Orleans, a crisis with Russia, a war in Iraq, an an economy that is going to s*** and they are talking about THIS on CNN. :rolleyes: Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son. yep. One MORE reason I don't watch the news any more :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Lynx Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 You mean, like this one? http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20080625/0013729e451809cc16881f.jpg :smilielol5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 You've reference his inflated ego twice now that I've seen. Would you be so kind as to link to examples of his uppity-ness, or am I to be left guessing? Well we can start with his temple as referenced in this thread, his quasi-presidential seal which had its own Latin Inscription, his web site that speaks of him as though he is some gift from the heavens. His line during his St paul speech "I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation" .... come on give me a break. Another quote "I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions." links http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/07/20/the_audacity_of_ego/ http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/07/17/2008-07-17_barack_obamas_ego_deflates_him.html http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0724nw.html http://prorev.com/2008/07/obama-ego.html http://www.afroarticles.com/article-dashboard/Article/Obama-s-ego-and-his-cultural-ties/115027 Good enough? No more guessing. Sincerely pqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soph the vet Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Well we can start with his temple as referenced in this thread, his quasi-presidential seal which had its own Latin Inscription, his web site that speaks of him as though he is some gift from the heavens. His line during his St paul speech "I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation" .... come on give me a break. Another quote "I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions." links http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/07/20/the_audacity_of_ego/ http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/07/17/2008-07-17_barack_obamas_ego_deflates_him.html http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0724nw.html http://prorev.com/2008/07/obama-ego.html http://www.afroarticles.com/article-dashboard/Article/Obama-s-ego-and-his-cultural-ties/115027 Good enough? No more guessing. Sincerely pqr I tried to rep you for this but the system wouldn't let me!! :iagree::iagree::iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I have to say, now that I've seen the photos, I'm kind of disappointed. ;) I really don't understand the furor, lol. It's got columns. Like most of DC. So flippin' what? Obviously the idea is to allow the American public to see the candidate as "presidential", to picture the candidate as president. Was anyone expecting something *other* than marketing to be going on? A little silly? Sure. Worth getting worked up about? Oh. My. Heavens. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soph the vet Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 :D to-GA, to-GA! Am I the only big Animal House fan here? I know it's a very silly movie. As long as Obama doesn't pull a John Belushi zit move....:ack2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam "SFSOM" in TN Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Well we can start with his temple as referenced in this thread, his quasi-presidential seal which had its own Latin Inscription, his web site that speaks of him as though he is some gift from the heavens. OMG, Latin? No way. Well, there you have it. Who in the world reflects back to those dead white men, anyway? Surely no one here would do such a thing or approve of someone else doing that. And from a HARVARD man? Latin? Sheesh. How... elitist. (Quick, somebody phone dd and warn her to drop Latin III NOW!) And *whispering* I think the reference to a "temple" was a little bit tongue in cheek. (But [pam whispers more quietly] I could be wrong.) Unless the whole notion of calling to mind someplace presidential, say, Washington DC, the White House, the Capitol, is uppity and elitist, this is more about where he wants to work than where he wants to be crowned King of the Hill. It does serve a political purpose, though, to hint that Sen. Obama might be The One warned about near the "End of Time." Can we risk it? Probably not. There is a nuance aimed at evangelicals that is lost on the general population regarding these warnings, but the subtle hint is there. Let him that hath ears, let him hear and all that. Sorry. The people you quoted sway me by calling Sen. Obama an egoist no more than do you. But I appreciate you letting me know where you got your notions. It does explain it. Thanks. (Really.) I do find it interesting how two (I would suppose) reasonable people can see events and quotes so absolutely differently, one as darning and one as inspiring or neutral. (I use the word darning because the word ****ing will be ***'d out. That awful, profane "d" word.) And I forgot -- his website. Honestly, I think someone should email them and let them know that they really should tone down the "Barack should be president because he is the best candidate and here is why" rhetoric. It's excessive, that, and leading up to election day and all... (And someone should email Pam and tell her to tone down her sarcasm. I'm sorry about that. Sorta. Mostly.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genie Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 You've reference his inflated ego twice now that I've seen. Would you be so kind as to link to examples of his uppity-ness, or am I to be left guessing? Well, I've always assumed anyone running for the position of President must have pretty healthy self-esteem. I haven't seen anything that would indicate that Obama's is any healthier than other candidates'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Atl Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Well, I've always assumed anyone running for the position of President must have pretty healthy self-esteem. I haven't seen anything that would indicate that Obama's is any healthier than other candidates'. I have yet to meet one that does not think highly of him or herself. Very few unassuming politicians/rulers, ever! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 It does serve a political purpose, though, to hint that Sen. Obama might be The One warned about near the "End of Time." Can we risk it? Probably not. There is a nuance aimed at evangelicals that is lost on the general population regarding these warnings, but the subtle hint is there. Let him that hath ears, let him hear and all that. Wow, that sailed totally over my head! It makes my wonder how much other coded language has escaped me in McCain's campaign... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Academy of Jedi Arts Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 It does serve a political purpose, though, to hint that Sen. Obama might be The One warned about near the "End of Time." Can we risk it? Probably not. There is a nuance aimed at evangelicals that is lost on the general population regarding these warnings, but the subtle hint is there. Let him that hath ears, let him hear and all that. Here is a vid for anyone who hasn't seen When I saw the parting of the Red Sea thing, I didn't know it was possible to crack up and feel sick to one's stomach at the same time. BTW- Pam, I vote for the sarcasm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Here is a vid for anyone who hasn't seen When I saw the parting of the Red Sea thing, I didn't know it was possible to crack up and feel sick to one's stomach at the same time. BTW- Pam, I vote for the sarcasm! Here's a Time article about the ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genie Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 BTW- Pam, I vote for the sarcasm! What do you think this is, a democracy??? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Pam, if I could rep you, I would. *shakes head* I really can't even express my feelings on this in a non-inflammatory manner right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam "SFSOM" in TN Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Wow, that sailed totally over my head! It makes my wonder how much other coded language has escaped me in McCain's campaign... I'm not sure there's a whole lot more. But if I were trying to play to the worst fears of a demographic whose vote I could not be sure of, this is one way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I'm not sure there's a whole lot more. But if I were trying to play to the worst fears of a demographic whose vote I could not be sure of, this is one way to go. Well, after seeing the McCain ad, there's not much coded about it. I'm gobsmacked! The most astonishing thing of all is that it's a McCain ad, not a Swift Boat!!! I've only been unplugged for about a week getting the school year up and going and look at all I've missed. ETA: Ohh, it's from early August when I was enjoying the political farce of Hugo Chavez, that explains it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam "SFSOM" in TN Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Here's a Time article about the ad. Holy cow. Ok, I wasn't imagining things. Dh and I have discussed this, and he googled some, but he doesn't know the Left Behind imagery, so despite the fact that we certainly knew Tim and Beverly LaHaye before knowing Tim LaHaye was cool, he didn't really think much of it except for the "Just who does he think he is" factor. (And the fact that we own all LaHaye's books up to the time when he became mainstream popular -- does that bother anyone but me?) Dh *hates* discussing politics, so we avoid it and didn't get very far into this discussion. But Fred Davis would definitely know what he was doing with this. Very clever. Sick that I'm confirming what I suspected. Surprised I haven't heard more about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb_ Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Pam, if I could rep you, I would. *shakes head* I really can't even express my feelings on this in a non-inflammatory manner right now. I was able to get her. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I was able to get her. Barb I'm always out of rep for Pam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peek a Boo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 well, the thread was certainly [mostly] funny... ;) If Barack wears a toga, shoot, *I* might even be tempted to vote for him. :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam "SFSOM" in TN Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 well, the thread was certainly [mostly] funny... ;) If Barack wears a toga, shoot, *I* might even be tempted to vote for him. :lurk5: Togas wouldn't work with the Greek columns, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peek a Boo Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Togas wouldn't work with the Greek columns, though. nope. but it sure would be ballzy. and definitely a CHANGE! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peek a Boo Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Togas wouldn't work with the Greek columns, though. ooh! how about this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I think that it was a tremendous risk for him to do that...I guess we will see. After all, Greek temples were to house their gods and godesses. To me, he is going to look rather elitist standing in front of it. Well, last night someone posted to complain about his being a "regular" guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 As a member of a "Classical Education" forum, am I really supposed to get my panties in a twist (hey *anj* :D) because they chose a stage based on classical architecture??? Should I scorn the Federalists for doing the same in our Nation's capitol? Or is this just plain silly? Bill I totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglin'5 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm not worked up about it, but I do think it is rather amusing. I think it was rather politically tone deaf for his campaign to not anticipate the fun Leno, Stewart, et al., are going to have with it. I have to say, now that I've seen the photos, I'm kind of disappointed. ;) I really don't understand the furor, lol. It's got columns. Like most of DC. So flippin' what? Obviously the idea is to allow the American public to see the candidate as "presidential", to picture the candidate as president. Was anyone expecting something *other* than marketing to be going on? A little silly? Sure. Worth getting worked up about? Oh. My. Heavens. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Check out Bush's strikingly similar 2004 set: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Bushs_2004_temple.html The attachment to kitsch, particularly at political conventions, is clearly bipartisan. The lefty blogs are having a field day pointing out how the McCain campaign can't keep their Greeks and Romans straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Funny. Isn't it the first time that our candidates are both senators? I think that if they run they should have to give up their seats, not save them for later. Oh, I soooo agree with this! Where else in the world can you campaign for a new job and still keep your old one??:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Well we can start with his temple as referenced in this thread, his quasi-presidential seal which had its own Latin Inscription, his web site that speaks of him as though he is some gift from the heavens. His line during his St paul speech "I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation" .... come on give me a break. Another quote "I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions." links http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/07/20/the_audacity_of_ego/ http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/07/17/2008-07-17_barack_obamas_ego_deflates_him.html http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0724nw.html http://prorev.com/2008/07/obama-ego.html http://www.afroarticles.com/article-dashboard/Article/Obama-s-ego-and-his-cultural-ties/115027 Good enough? No more guessing. Sincerely pqr Word.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runninmommy Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I tried to rep you for this but the system wouldn't let me!! :iagree::iagree::iagree: Thats okay, you inspired me to rep her....Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenParrish Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I say NO OBAMA O8!!! Pride comes before a FALL!!! I could not agree more. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFP Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Pride comes before a FALL!!! But, but, what about all those THE POWER OF PRIDE bumper stickers Bush supporters had on their cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglin'5 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I hated those bumper stickers, and I'm a conservative/libertarian. But, but, what about all those THE POWER OF PRIDE bumper stickers Bush supporters had on their cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genie Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 LOL, well it does look like a temple, but they were probably going for a Washingtonian look. I thought moving his speech to that venue was brilliant, but yeah, I think for their own sake the stage needs to be toned down. All I can say at this point is that I'm glad it was such a monstrous stage, because my husband made incredible overtime last night taking it down. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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