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  1. But if they were testing as much as South Korea, they might well have realized they weren't actually doing better. The fact that the US waited until it was clear spread was out of control before testing widely is my point.
  2. And South Korea just started a whole bunch of new, targeted testing because they had a day with all of 76 new cases: https://www.startribune.com/the-latest-india-adds-61-800-new-cases-1-033-deaths/572786502/?refresh=true
  3. South Korea had its first case the same day as the US, and 2 months later it was testing at 6x the rate of the US: https://khn.org/news/fact-check-trumps-boast-about-u-s-south-korea-coronavirus-testing-misses-the-mark/ . When you have 100 cases a day vs. 80,000, and you have rigorous contract tracing in place, you no longer need to test as much. Anyone know what South Korea's positivity rate is? You can get a good idea of whether you're doing enough testing from that.
  4. We're in a very blue county, BUT it's the county that includes Atlanta, which has its own school district (which is still fully virtual). So the bluest part of my blue county is out of the picture for school decisions.
  5. Yeah, spending the summer getting things under control as much as possible and coming up with solid plans for schools would have been smart. Sigh. It would make SUCH a difference if community numbers has started lower and there were a plan (and funding) in place for a lot of asymptomatic screening tests. That's what my oldest's college is doing (everyone tested before they get there, again when they arrive, and then random testing of 15% of the campus every week), and they seem to be keeping things under control. Doesn't mean I don't worry about him, but I feel a lot better about his situation
  6. And that's the thing....all the estimates I've seen say 1/4 to 1/3 of teachers are high risk. And it's older teachers and/or ones with more health risks who are least able to opt out because they can't risk their retirement or their health insurance. 2 people in DH's department took long term leave this year because they felt unsafe (unpaid, presumably without benefits, but probably they at least keep their retirement accounts). They didn't hire replacements or long term subs (which I imagine would be virtually impossible this year)....they divided those teachers' students up amongst the other
  7. My husband's school went to 5 days a week (after starting up virtually then very briefly doing hybrid). They had 2 positive cases and more than 120 people quarantined by day 4. If nothing else, staying hybrid so you can keep everyone distanced means you can do a lot fewer quarantines when you have positive cases.
  8. I've been following Emily Oster's school database pretty closely (or obsessively, depending on your perspective): https://statsiq.co1.qualtrics.com/public-dashboard/v0/dashboard/5f62eaee4451ae001535c839#/dashboard/5f62eaee4451ae001535c839?pageId=Page_1ac6a6bc-92b6-423e-9f7a-259a18648318. One of my observations is that the numbers are not nearly so reassuring as Oster thinks they are, particularly for teachers, and that we should look really carefully at whether schools are driving spread. It seems based on her numbers that kids in schools are NOT less likely to get covid than the general popul
  9. So fun fact which is totally unrelated to covid: DH's cousin is the Red Sox GM. DH jokingly texted him after the NLCS to say he really wished they'd hung onto Mookie Betts for another year. He has not heard back. I told him, "you were just kidding around, but this is Boston. They take this stuff seriously. He might be getting daily death threats already."
  10. The MLB absolutely is not a friend of players. But has anyone with the Dodgers denied that he was told not to come out? I imagine the "you must isolate if you get a positive test" rule is pretty clear cut at any rate. (I was in bed by Manfred time; I was following it on twitter but didn't see it)
  11. MLB is NOT HAPPY: Whatever you think about whether he should have been allowed on the field, he wasn't: he made a very clear decision to violate the rules that everyone had agreed upon and that were there to protect everyone's safety. He also should certainly have realized that his actions would become the story and detract from an uncomplicated celebration of victory for the Dodgers (who, as I've noted, seem like nice fellows and deserved this after "losing" to the Astros a couple of of years ago).
  12. (I should note that I'm deeply uncomfortable with any kind of sporty trash talk and shall not be attempting it again. The Dodgers seem like a decent bunch of fellows for the most part. I generally wish everyone who did sports could succeed).
  13. Well, and I'm a Braves fan, and Turner stuck his foot out and then claimed he was hit by a pitch in the NLCS 😂 ...but I stand by what I said: yes, it's SAD to miss the fun celebration when your team wins the World Series. It's also sad to have to reschedule your wedding or to not be able to have a funeral for a loved one who died during the pandemic or to be a kid who missed a whole baseball season because of it. Lots of things are SAD; it was totally tone deaf at best to be out there after being asked not to when so many people have given up so much and when lots of people threw a whole lot o
  14. Apparently I have more to say. Practically speaking, it probably doesn't matter. He had already been around everyone all day. And perhaps we'll find out more later about whether there was irresponsible behavior on his part or that of someone else in the Dodgers that led to him testing positive in the first place when everyone was supposed to have been in a bubble for weeks. And we can hope that no one else gets sick or that if they do it will be mild. Likely it will be for his teammates (although Freddie Freeman had a pretty serious case of Covid before the season, even though he's 30 and in g
  15. yep. it sucks, because I was feeling pretty good about how baseball handled things and how they were able to get through the season and how I got to watch baseball. And then this. Cue all the "I didn't get to visit my dying mother because of Covid, but Justin Turner just had to get a picture" takes....because they're totally correct.
  16. I had heard it before, but only the last time it was making the rounds because Trump used it.
  17. DH's county went back to 5 days a week in person last week (even though the county numbers were rising and didn't meet the metrics for reopening they set themselves). 4 days in his school shut back down for three days for "contact tracing and deep cleaning" after 2 positives and 140 quarantines. Two teachers in his department are quarantined, but not him. He's back today after 3 days of teaching remotely. I'm in a constant state of low grade rage about how the county is handling things (i.e. lying and misrepresenting the data)
  18. My husband's a high school teacher and back to full classes (only he's teaching from home this week because of an outbreak at his school 4 days after they went back full time 🙄....but anyway....), and after trying a bunch of different things he's settled on a happy mask doubled with a surgical mask, as being relatively comfortable and seeming to give pretty good protection. he likes the way the happy mask has the cone shape and doesn't sit right against his mouth and how light it is.
  19. Right. And we're finding out all kinds of things now about how there WERE plans to respond early on and they were shut down by the administration at every turn. The USPS was going to send masks to every household, and they were told not to. The CDC proposed a mask mandate on all public and commercial transportation and the white house refused to even discuss it.
  20. Well, this thread took a turn. I'm sorry so many people are indeed having trouble finding testing sites this year. But coming back to say that after my initial scare I found a local public high school (not the one we're zoned for, which ignored my e-mail) that let us register no problem at all. I hate that this is such a source of stress every year. And this year we're relying on AP exams more than usual because I don't want my 11th grader doing in person dual enrollment classes (he's doing one online, but he's not a huge fan of online classes in general).
  21. This post from a local facebook group about a high school near me might give some insight into suspected vs. confirmed cases. And into a lot of things, really.
  22. In the data the article cites, more than 90% of the schools have mask mandates for students and teachers.
  23. It's true--her evidence for schools not being superspreaders seems to be entirely that "I haven't heard many stories about big outbreaks like in colleges." I haven't either, really, but I'm not ready to run to the Atlantic with my findings.
  24. Wow--that's sobering--I hadn't done that math lately, and apparently I had a rosier view of things based on my own area's improving-until-recently numbers. It's confirmed (my midwest numbers). That's why I'd like to see more information about what a "suspected" case is when it comes to school numbers. I can't imagine any reason why a school self-reporting data would "suspect" a covid case unless it was probably a covid case. So I'm assuming it's because parents don't have to report tests (whereas health departments DO get all the data on test results). But I don't know, because she doesn't say
  25. I don't know what the numbers for kids in particular look like nationwide, but that 740/100,000 number is as high as overall numbers just about anywhere in the country right now. Like if you look at the very reddest of the red in the NYT map of hotspots (mostly Wisconsin and other places in the midwest right now), they have incidence rates similar to that. Pre-school openings, at least, kids were overall much less likely to have covid than adults, so I'd be very surprised if kids who aren't in school have a higher overall incidence rate than the worst places in the midwest right now.
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