Jennifer3141 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Every time I call for a doctor's appointment, they ask what the problem is, so I assumed that if she'd called her pediatrician's office and said she needed to bring the baby in the next morning, they would have asked what was going on. Maybe your doctor's office is different. We don't actually prosecute you if you lie to us. NO ONE ever calls their doctor up and says, "Hey doc, I've got the pus filled thing on my hoo ha." It's always, "My hands are shaking and I can't sleep!" or whatever and when they are halfway out the door after the exam DH will get a, "Hey doc, this little thing is bugging me. Can you take a look at it??" Unless this woman is suffering from some sort of severe mental deficiency, I doubt she told the receptionist the problem. If only for the sake of liability, the doctor's office would have told her to hang up and call 911. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truscifi Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Is there any further news? I was worried about this little guy the whole time the forums were down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 We don't actually prosecute you if you lie to us. NO ONE ever calls their doctor up and says, "Hey doc, I've got the pus filled thing on my hoo ha." It's always, "My hands are shaking and I can't sleep!" or whatever and when they are halfway out the door after the exam DH will get a, "Hey doc, this little thing is bugging me. Can you take a look at it??" Well, I had a problem (not that one) that I didn't really want to tell the receptionist about, and in fact I made my husband call about it. He was pretty vague and so they wanted to schedule me for a check up in three or four weeks. I thought at that point, the truth had to be revealed. That's the problem with the scheduling of appointments weeks in advance. In fact, another time I did have problems breathing and the soonest appointment was in two weeks. Not too helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Bananas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Bananas. Thank you so much. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lailasmum Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 She might find Stars (Syncope trust and reflex anoxic seizures) useful. They have two websites. The UK one and the US one. The same conditions have different names all over the world. It is a wierd thing to witness and I can understand why she was confused but the baby does need tests to rule out more sinister causes. My ds has reflex anoxic seizures and the only reason I wasn't too panicked the first time it happened to my son when he was 3 months old was because we were in an ambulance at the time for other reasons and the paramedics paid it little attention. We didn't get a proper diagnosis until 14months. There are lots of videos of kids on you tube with RAS (which is syncope in kids). Our support group has generally come to the conclusion that generally doctors are useless with it because they can't fix it easily or have really outdated training in this area and go down the whole spoilt stroppy manipulative child holding their breath route. Stars are good at finding good specialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I guess it's my turn to give this thread a bump. Since puddles hasn't posted an update, I'm assuming the baby is OK, but I'm hoping she will let us know what happened at the doctor's office (assuming the mom even told her.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laf919 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I, too, hope Puddles is able to post an update soon with good news about the little one. For those who are concerned about calling CPS, in most states, you call a hot-line and speak to a person (usually a social worker) who is trained to ask you questions and determine if further investigation is necessary. If the person you talk to decides that the case does not merit further investigation, you can appeal to a supervisor. In any case, records of all calls are kept for a period of time (usually 6 months to a year) so that if a family is reported over and over again for things that don't quite meet the threshold for investigation on their own, but all together merit looking into, they will hopefully be flagged and investigated. I mention this to say that in most cases, a family is not going to face horrible CPS investigations over nothing. I'm not saying it never happens - there are stories of CPS going way overboard - but they are by far the minority. If you think a child is in danger, call - and let CPS decide what to do. In a case like this, I would call - not because I think the parents are being horribly neglectful, but because their actions and response to Puddles' concern for their child indicate a tendency to minimize a child's needs - and that is a long-term risk factor for neglect. I would call so that there is a record and if they do something like this again in 3 months, the system might just come through with parenting classes or mentoring or something so they learn to be better parents. Again, I say this knowing full well that the system often doesn't work as well as we would hope - but, it can - and in many places I have lived the interventions intended to educate parents at risk of neglecting their kids worked quite well and had a very positive impact on many families. And I have hope. I have also seen parents who faced a CPS investigation for something like this and it served as a wake-up call - and they determined that they needed to do better by their kids and found resources to help them do that - and that has been nothing but good for those families. Of course, I am also a mandated reporter - so if I heard about this and knew the family by name, I'd have to call..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnificent_baby Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Any updates, Puddles? Hoping everything is just fine with this baby boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytwomonkeys Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 well for me, 11 months old is still a baby & i find it hard to think of that age as spoiled. my little boy used to hit his head on the floor when he was upset at that age (i mean hard!!). it freaked me out & i took him to the doctor because i was afraid he was going to hurt himself. if he held his breath when he was upset, - again, we would be going to the doctor asap. turning blue is nothing to take lightly, regardless of the "why". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfgivas Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 hoping for an update.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akmommy Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I thought he might have been. I've seen babies cry so hard that they literally lose their breath which causes them to pass out. I would probably still go to the doctor/ER just for my peace of mind. I have a nephew that did this as a baby. I don't think he was spoiled or did it on purpose. They did take him in the first time it happened and were told that it is fairly common. As long as he woke up and was fine they were told not to worry about it. I would still encourage you friend to speak with someone about it just to be sure that is all it is because I have another nephew who is epileptic . the first grand mal seizure he had started with unexplainable crying and the he just quit breathing and went into convulsions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Bumping for update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowing Brook Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sorry for taking so long to update. Baby had his first cake thus his first sugar. Apparently his body was reacting to having sugar for the first time. I really am not clear on this but The dr. said he's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigomama Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sorry for taking so long to update. Baby had his first cake thus his first sugar. Apparently his body was reacting to having sugar for the first time. I really am not clear on this but The dr. said he's fine. I generally hold Drs in high regard, but this one doesn't sound much better than his parents. He stopped breathing and turned blue because he ate sugar for the first time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpyTheFrog Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sorry for taking so long to update. Baby had his first cake thus his first sugar. Apparently his body was reacting to having sugar for the first time. I really am not clear on this but The dr. said he's fine. I would want a second opinion on this. It doesn't make sense. I really doubt the baby had never had any sugar before in his life. With Tigger, we were really strict about the sugar intake as a baby (and he is gluten-free), but he still had sugar at least once or twice before his birthday. What did the doctor suggest? Is the mom supposed to not give him any sugar? What if it was a reaction to something else in the cake...or not a food reaction at all? It sounds weird to me and almost like a cop-out answer on the doctor's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sorry for taking so long to update. Baby had his first cake thus his first sugar. Apparently his body was reacting to having sugar for the first time. I really am not clear on this but The dr. said he's fine. That doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 IF my dr told me that my baby was stopping breathing because he ate sugar I personally would be extremely worried. I have never heard of that reaction before. I would think major allergy? or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 It sounds like the mom made just something up. I don't mean this as a jab at you puddles, but none of this rings true for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 When my eldest dd was a toddler, she would cry, hold her breath and briefly pass out. It really only took a few times for her to figure out that she didn't like that very much and stopped holding her breath. It was not a big deal. Her pediatrician never thought it deserved further testing. The whole situation described by the OP sounds strange, but second and third hand accounts often do in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 It sounds like the mom made just something up. I don't mean this as a jab at you puddles, but none of this rings true for me. I agree, I think the mom made it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I think you've been scammed all the way around. Poor baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnificent_baby Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Thank you for updating, OP. Never heard of that, but hope there truly is nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sorry for taking so long to update. Baby had his first cake thus his first sugar. Apparently his body was reacting to having sugar for the first time. I really am not clear on this but The dr. said he's fine. :confused: :confused: :confused: So basically, this translates as, "The mom never took the baby to the doctor," right? :glare: I'm with everyone else -- I'm calling Pants on Fire on the mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I don't buy the sugar story at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koerarmoca Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Everything has sugar breast milk, fruit, veggies etc...all have some amount of sugar in it..this can not be babies "first sugar" episode.. All sounds a little fishy to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2samlibby Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 That makes no sense at all. I hope that baby will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2samlibby Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 That makes no sense at all. I hope that baby will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Puddles, is there any chance that the mom made up the entire story -- including the "baby stopped breathing" part? Is she one of those people who always wants to be the center of attention? Could she have lied just to get people to fuss over her? Here's the thing -- I absolutely believe she told you everything you told us, but I'm no longer at all convinced that she didn't lie to you about the whole thing. Nothing about her story is adding up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Could it be a sign of diabetes? That being said, I don't have any idea how diabetes works or much about it at all...just throwing it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureMoms Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Everything has sugar breast milk, fruit, veggies etc...all have some amount of sugar in it..this can not be babies "first sugar" episode.. All sounds a little fishy to me! That's what I was thinking. Both breast milk and formula have a ton of sugar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inoubliable Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sounds like someone was looking for attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um_2_4 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 As someone who HAS passed out from too much sugar, I'm calling baloney. When that happened to me (at age 5), I did not turn blue, stop breathing or any of those other things. And the amount of sugar it took to get me there was HUGE. Not the amount in a piece of cake. Either she wanted attention or she is just clueless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinmom Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sorry for taking so long to update. Baby had his first cake thus his first sugar. Apparently his body was reacting to having sugar for the first time. I really am not clear on this but The dr. said he's fine. Very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koerarmoca Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 That's what I was thinking. Both breast milk and formula have a ton of sugar! I couldn't comment to formula as I have never used it and didn't feel like looking up if it has sugar or not. I know my breast milk likely contained a ton of sugar because I eat a lot of candy lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I have a friend whose baby would hold his breath when he was angry and pitching fits, starting around that age if I remember correctly, to the point where he would pass out. Her pediatrician said, "Well, when he passes out, he starts breathing again right?" She was really freaked out by it and tried everything to get him to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt. Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 The only possible way I can see that as a real medical opinion would be if it was: - Kid had way too much sugar - Kid had high blood sugar, and/or had bodily over-compensation to that level of blood sugar - Kid's hormone secretions put him into 'fight or flight' mode due to blood sugar levels or sugar-over-compensation - Fight or flight instinct resulted in panic (or other emotive response) - Panic resulted in the 'normal' way that some babies instinctively breath-hold due to anxiety (or other emotions) but without extended crying to otherwise indicate strong emotion. If so, that seems plausible, but it's a lot of extra logic that the mom apparently didn't understand and/or didn't convey to puddles. Either that or: mom is lying, or the doc is incompetent, or I don't understand the human body as well as I think I do. Anyhow, if it's not true, there isn't much to be done... and if it is true, at least one kid in the world is going to be raised with very low exposure to sugar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besroma Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 When my eldest dd was a toddler, she would cry, hold her breath and briefly pass out. It really only took a few times for her to figure out that she didn't like that very much and stopped holding her breath. It was not a big deal. Her pediatrician never thought it deserved further testing. The whole situation described by the OP sounds strange, but second and third hand accounts often do in my experience. My nephew did the same thing. She might try lightly blowing into the baby's face during the crying. Sometimes this causes the ba y to take a breath rather than hold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Innocent Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Sorry Puddles but unless something was massively 'lost in translation' I can't see there is any way a doctor would say such a thing. There is no way the baby has never had glucose, fructose or galactose in his system before. Eventually sugar is sugar is sugar, whether it comes from milk, rice, bread, fruit, vegetables or cake or whatever. Let's hope the whole thing was overblown or attention seeking. :( Sorry you were caught in the middle. Emma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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