Hope in God Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) How many play around a bit before the raincoat goes on? This question has just been on my mind lately because, surprise, we are having a baby and you can probably guess how it happened. Of course we are very happy now that the shock has worn off.:D I will include a poll so that the guilty parties can participate in this thread without incriminating themselves.:blush: *Update, I did the poll wrong and the results are not secret. This is a disclaimer that participation in this poll is without raincoat, wetsuit or any type of protection. My apologies :-( Edited June 7, 2012 by Hope in God poll submission error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skadi Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I'm not sure what you mean by playing around. Do you mean diving into the water without a wetsuit, then putting it on after a few waves? Or do you mean giving a pre-swim massage? Or swimming up the (hopefully recently flushed) sewer pipe beforehand without a wetsuit? I could do this all day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpoy85 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 We dont use protection. We use to. We would play around in every sense of the words before putting it on. But it went on to finish the job. Playing included hands, mouth, sex, etc. Just no finishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope in God Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Well, I think I mean catching a wave or two sans wetsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skadi Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) I see from the poll that you mean a dip without protection. Contrary to popular belief, withdrawal only has a 4% pregnancy rate and thus is very unlikely to be the culprit. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/reprints/Contraception79-407-410.pdf I think it's far more likely that there was a wetsuit malfunction! The "typical use" failure rate of wetsuits is 15%. There are a lot of ways wetsuits can fail -- feel free to google it for more info. Edited June 7, 2012 by Skadi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 No skinny dipping in this house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope in God Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Would a wetsuit malfunction be apparent (no pun intended)?:smilielol5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skadi Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Nope! I think two of the most common problems is leaving air bubbles in it (the tiny swimmers escape this way) or the wetsuit slipping up during the swim (but sliding down again by the finale so it wouldn't be noticeable). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phathui5 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 We used them faithfully for four years before we decided not to bother with it and got pregnant again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhomemaker Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 This is why I use an umbrella. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomandlorih Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I see from the poll that you mean a dip without protection. Contrary to popular belief, withdrawal only has a 4% pregnancy rate and thus is very unlikely to be the culprit. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/reprints/Contraception79-407-410.pdf I think it's far more likely that there was a wetsuit malfunction! The "typical use" failure rate of wetsuits is 15%. There are a lot of ways wetsuits can fail -- feel free to google it for more info. :eek: Oh my goodness, that's really taking a chance isn't it? And not just on pregnancy either!! WOW! Voted no in the poll.. Hated wearing a raincoat..thought it was safe to dash through a shower without one and that's how we got DD3months :lol::lol: Oops.. all tied up now so we no longer have to worry:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tap Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 We used to play around a bit, but will full knowledge that there was a risk involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezyone Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Nope, no wetsuits here. We installed a semi-permanent dam good for five years of freedom. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawna in Texas Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I'm not sure what you mean by playing around. Do you mean diving into the water without a wetsuit, then putting it on after a few waves? Or do you mean giving a pre-swim massage? Or swimming up the (hopefully recently flushed) sewer pipe beforehand without a wetsuit? I could do this all day! Please! Regale us with more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbgrace Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) :eek: Oh my goodness, that's really taking a chance isn't it? And not just on pregnancy either!! WOW! Voted no in the poll.. Hated wearing a raincoat..thought it was safe to dash through a shower without one and that's how we got DD3months :lol::lol: Oops.. all tied up now so we no longer have to worry:D Well, perfect use is 2% failure. Perfect use pretty much means use it every time for the whole time. Condoms can fail but most condom pregnancies are from lack of use during a fertile time. Statistically I suspect most people don't use them all the time every time. Edited June 7, 2012 by sbgrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Fourth fish is due to wetsuit breach...we assume manufacturer's defect since the expert diver had geared up properly and carefully. It was a very unsafe dive! :lol: No more fish. I can't dive without "the bends"...the kind that kills divers so we took permanent action and expert diver is now just a snorkeler. :D Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueridge Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 This precipitation information has been quite illuminating. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besroma Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 This precipitation information has been quite illuminating. :D :iagree: I will definitely be checking back in when I need a laugh! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntgoodwin Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 We used to play around a bit, but will full knowledge that there was a risk involved. :iagree: We figured if we got pregnant, it was God's plan. At the same time, though, we never really got pregnant unless we were wanting to. Each time we got pregnant, there was no "raincoat." Fourth fish is due to wetsuit breach...we assume manufacturer's defect since the expert diver had geared up properly and carefully. It was a very unsafe dive! :lol: No more fish. I can't dive without "the bends"...the kind that kills divers so we took permanent action and expert diver is now just a snorkeler. :D Faith I...have no idea what this means. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowWhite Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I needed the obligatory "other". We use raincoats as per manufacturer's instructions. Ds11 was the result of the 4% ineffective withdrawal method. We occasionally leave off our raincoat when there is practically no chance of rain - ie, at the very beginning of the weather cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiCO Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 My 18-yo is the result of a failed wetsuit. Or maybe catching a few waves pre-wetsuit... proof that great things result from skinny dipping! PS- your poll is not anonymous. Oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 :iagree: We figured if we got pregnant, it was God's plan. At the same time, though, we never really got pregnant unless we were wanting to. Each time we got pregnant, there was no "raincoat." I...have no idea what this means. :confused: Bends - decompresson sickness, has to do with the blood stream. I have a blood disorder and will die if I have anymore. It was a euphemism that probably only women will get! :D:lol: Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frugalmama Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I use none of the above - I'm single. But I have a friend who got pregnant with her daughter after using BOTH a wetsuit and an umbrella. And I have to say - this thread has given my my morning laugh!:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Why was this poll done so the votes are public? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Oh my. :lol: I needed a good laugh! I am just wondering which term will go down in WTM forum history as the definitive term.. a raincoat, or a wetsuit? I think I prefer wetsuit, the imagery is slightly more accurate.. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dory Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 We used to use a wetsuit every time we went swimming faithfully. The the little swimmers have been cut off from the party now so no need to use the wetsuit anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypamama Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Just had to say that this thread is fabulous! TeA and wetsuits -- y'all are the most creative ladies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Yell Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Oh my. :lol: I needed a good laugh! I am just wondering which term will go down in WTM forum history as the definitive term.. a raincoat, or a wetsuit? I think I prefer wetsuit, the imagery is slightly more accurate.. :D Snorkeling. That gets my vote for best euphemism. :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisainOhio Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Oh my gosh, hilarious. I was having a really tough morning and really needed a giggle. I have a feeling that this thread will reappear in my mind in November when we're in Mexico to dive and snorkel. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I will include a poll so that the guilty parties can participate in this thread without incriminating themselves.:blush: Maybe someone else has mentioned this already, but it's a public poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope in God Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) Why was this poll done so the votes are public? Just curious. Doh! I have never done a poll before. I thought that the vote public option was so that everyone could see the poll results. So in this case the technical problem can be pinpoined as originating between the chair and the keyboard (as usual). Can I fix it? Edited June 7, 2012 by Hope in God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 :lol::lol::lol: Coffee on keyboard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) Maybe someone else has mentioned this already, but it's a public poll. Also, remember the reason for creative terms:001_smile: If you see this and have put real words in for raincoats and teA, please go edit out:). This is a publicly searchable forum. I love the creativity in talking around things, I have not laughed so much at talking around since teA room carpeting.:lol::lol: Edited June 7, 2012 by Northwest_Mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Love. This. Thread. But I'm not participating in the poll so I can maintain an air of mystery. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catz Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Love. This. Thread. But I'm not participating in the poll so I can maintain an air of mystery. ;) :iagree: thanks for the entertainment though. :auto: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plucky Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I would not go without a condom unless there was spermicide used, but I also have a spermicide baby & pill baby. So I may not be the best one to talk to about birth control. I did find that vasectomy worked the best for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenangelcat Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 We use as directed but skinny dip a couple of days before period is due. My cycle is like clockwork and I know when I'm ovulating. I could probably just do natural family planning but I don't want to risk it. Before we decided it was time to have kids we used both condoms and the bcp with absolutely no skinny dipping ever. For seven years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie131 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I am currently pregnant due to skinny dipping :) And can I say, this thread is hilarious :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 :lol: 4%ers here, so no help. Love the thread :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomandlorih Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 We use as directed but skinny dip a couple of days before period is due. My cycle is like clockwork and I know when I'm ovulating. I could probably just do natural family planning but I don't want to risk it. Before we decided it was time to have kids we used both condoms and the bcp with absolutely no skinny dipping ever. For seven years. It is risky.. lol My cycle was the same way .. until 1 month (almost exactly 1 yr ago:) I ovulated early and I'm holding the result of that=D Predictable does not = reliable.. LOL Thanks for the laughs ladies.. I really needed it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justLisa Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 We have TONS of ways to keep ourselves busy and alternate routes :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rutamattatt Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 OK, this is a conversation I have needed to have, but was too embarrassed to discuss with IRL friends. Thank heavens for y'all! We have been using the wetsuits for years now. It makes me crazy. I strongly dislike wetsuits. DH feels very strongly that we are done procreating, and has total faith in the structure and effectiveness of the wetsuit. I, on the other hand, am ready to buy the Walmart at home vasectomy kit (once they invent it), and get rid of wetsuits forever seeing as he promised to get the big "V" about three years ago if we would schedule it during March Madness. Let me get this straight - people have gotten pregnant using wetsuits faithfully???? (And we are faithful users - after a bit of skinny dipping, but always for the grand finale. But DH is Type A, so you can bet if there are no wetsuits, there is no swimming.) Dude. If that's the case, DH will be the first man in line at the convent (but still the last guy in line at the urologist). Birth control makes me crazy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope in God Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yes, wetsuit EVERY dive with the occasional brief skinny dip before the main event. 4% is really nearly a 1 in 20 chance of 2 pink lines if the timing is just right. And believe me 4% seems so much more probable when there are 2 pink lines.:eek: By the way, when I made the poll I set it to delete itself after 30 days so it won't be in cyber space forever *whew* (at least I did that right). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntgoodwin Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 OK, this is a conversation I have needed to have, but was too embarrassed to discuss with IRL friends. Thank heavens for y'all! We have been using the wetsuits for years now. It makes me crazy. I strongly dislike wetsuits. DH feels very strongly that we are done procreating, and has total faith in the structure and effectiveness of the wetsuit. I, on the other hand, am ready to buy the Walmart at home vasectomy kit (once they invent it), and get rid of wetsuits forever seeing as he promised to get the big "V" about three years ago if we would schedule it during March Madness. Let me get this straight - people have gotten pregnant using wetsuits faithfully???? (And we are faithful users - after a bit of skinny dipping, but always for the grand finale. But DH is Type A, so you can bet if there are no wetsuits, there is no swimming.) Dude. If that's the case, DH will be the first man in line at the convent (but still the last guy in line at the urologist). Birth control makes me crazy!! Read the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo_Babee Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I'm glad I'm not alone my friends make me feel like I'm the only one in the world that is married and use wetsuits while swimming. :-) But we definitely do some early skinny-dipping but always finish up with a wetsuit. If there's no wetsuits available we just splash around with our hands our maybe blow bubbles in the water...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yes, wetsuit EVERY dive with the occasional brief skinny dip before the main event. 4% is really nearly a 1 in 20 chance of 2 pink lines if the timing is just right. And believe me 4% seems so much more probable when there are 2 pink lines.:eek: 4% is perfect usage. The actual percentage is much higher. More than 15%. In high school, we studied a chart of different brands and some had a 50% failure rate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSOchristie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I do not need to read this, we only use them, and I'm banking my sanity on them. My dh just will not go get a stupid vasectomy, even though we're both done :eek::eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalynnrmc Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Holy mother of analogies thread, batman! :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginszoo Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Not a raincoat user, but I hear that the best swimmers tend to run at the front of the pack, so to speak ... and some might not even wait for the starting gun. So from that perspective, I don't find your situation particularly unexpected. Congratulations on your surprise package! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalynnrmc Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Not a raincoat user, but I hear that the best swimmers tend to run at the front of the pack, so to speak ... and some might not even wait for the starting gun. So from that perspective, I don't find your situation particularly unexpected. Congratulations on your surprise package! This. If there are any soldiers still waiting in the tunnels from the last deployment, going for a short swim before those second orders are handed out allows them too much freedom and they end up with a weekend home. :tongue_smilie: If you're going to count on the raincoats, they must be worn beginning to end. You can add a sp**micide though, and it's almost as effective as the pill. We used "VCF" (Wal-Mart, cheap stuff) in conjunction with raincoats for a full year at a time, two separate years, without incident. "VCF" is the name of that product, and it stands for Vag* Contrace* Film - and that's exactly what it was. You know those breath film things, that look like squares of tape or something and you put them on your tongue and they dissolve? These are kind of like that. You fold them up, insert them as far as you can get them, and then you *must* wait for 15 minutes before doing any swimming. (Can you say, required warm-ups please, honey :lol: ) In the past, we've used several different methods, including that long-term inserted version for a full 5 years. (After which, my first ovulation was DOUBLE, hence twins! Just saying.) The tubes are tied now (hey, required c-section, and twins were babies 4 and 5, so I figured while he was in there...), so there are no worries. Except that troublesome monthly visitor, which I haven't had to deal with since my first year of marriage, is back. :glare: Yeah - I was either expecting, nursing, BOTH :tongue_smilie:, or on the inserted bc and not having monthly visitations - for 9 years. :D I'd hoped for NFP after this last pregnancy, not really sure I could've convinced hubby though, and was led in the permanent direction after all. (It was not something I really WANTED to do, and I'm not one for doing things just because everyone else thinks it makes the most sense. ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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