flyingiguana Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/08/what-will-norway-make-westboro-baptist-church/40842/ "The ever-infuriating Westboro Baptist Church, which made its reputation picketing the funerals of soldiers while holding signs saying "god hates fags" and "thank god for dead soldiers," says it is heading to Norway to lend its presence to the funerals of those killed in the July 22 massacre. The group posted a press release to its web site announcing its plans to picket the funerals of those who lost their lives when Anders Breivik set off a bomb in Oslo that killed eight and then traveled to the island of Utoya to execute 69 at a youth camp. The Topeka-based church, run by former civil rights activist Fred Phelps, sees homosexuality as a deadly sin and has vocally interpreted slain soldiers as a message from god that the United States is "a sodomite nation of flag-worshiping idolaters."" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Why in the world does the media keep giving these media wh@res so much press? Don't feed the trolls—online or in real life. Edited August 5, 2011 by WordGirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Well, the slimes need visas and hopefully Norway won't grant them. I really wish we could round them up and drop them at the South Pole. Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Well, the slimes need visas and hopefully Norway won't grant them. I really wish we could round them up and drop them at the South Pole. Faith Or about 100 yards off, and let them swim the rest of the way. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 If they are considering protesting in Norway, it's to get a nice vacation out of the heat and because they want the publicity. Seriously. These people "operate" out of the money they get from winning lawsuits. I wish we could all just ignore them and move on. Eventually their money would dry up and they wouldn't get their buzz out of making people riled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Well, the slimes need visas and hopefully Norway won't grant them. Actually, US citizens do NOT need visa to travel to Norway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amey311 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 They could be denied entry because of their hate speech. I'm pretty sure they're not allowed into the UK because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 They could be denied entry because of their hate speech. I'm pretty sure they're not allowed into the UK because of it. If you travel without a visa, all you do is show your passport. Nobody will know that the individual belongs to this group - unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I wonder what country fits their value system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amey311 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 They could be on a list somewhere - it helps that they are very public and their names are everywhere. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5767077.ece - this is an article about the UK denying them entry. They're so incredibly public about everything they do, which is handy for municipalities and countries that are about to be introduced to the WBC. Assuming the Norwegian authorities are told, they now have the option of banning them or letting them know they'll be denied entry at the border OR setting things up to shield the families from the protestors. I know the US keeps lists of people who aren't allowed back in (or at least they tell people that they do), and not just big names. I had a cousin from the UK who really liked the US and one year spent more time in the US than in the UK (he'd come for 3 months as a tourist, go back to the UK for a month, fly back to the US for 3 months, etc). On his last visit, he was told at the immigration check point that when he left the US on this visit, he needed to stay out of the country for a year or start immigration proceedings. He didn't try to get back in again within that year (who wants to try that? and deal with having to get back to the UK on no notice?). Oh, and this was all pre-September 11th, but with computers (around 1997, I think), so they had a record of his passport number in the system. I don't know if Norwegian authorities could have access to the Phelpses passport numbers, I'm sure there is enough information available about them publically that they could flag things if they try to enter the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 We kept those nasty folk out of our country - Norway can do it too. It's their country! "Canadians simply won't tolerate these lunatics disrupting what should be a respectful service." -- one our government guys. CBC posted a poll asking people if they should be allowed into Canada… 97% voted hell no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Norway has hate speech laws like we do - awesome, hope they use 'em! Norway prohibits hate speech, and defines it as publicly making statements that threaten or ridicule someone or that incite hatred, persecution or contempt for someone due to their skin colour, ethnic origin, homosexual life style or orientation or, religion or philosophy of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Any person who willfully or through gross negligence publicly utters a discriminatory or hateful expression shall be liable to fines or imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years. An expression that is uttered in such a way that it is likely to reach a large number of persons shall be deemed equivalent to a publicly uttered expression, cf. section 7, No. 2. The use of symbols shall also be deemed to be an expression. Any person who aids and abets such an offense shall be liable to the same penalty. :hurray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebug42 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Interestingly, when there was a local military funeral here last year, they posted on their site that they would be picketing. People around here rallied to form a human barrier of support around the church and then none of the Westboro people showed up, thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I can't imagine living my life by trying to find witch hunts to go after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusksAngel Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 They were supposed to come to Joplin during the weeks after the tornado, they never showed. If people would just stop reacting to them (hard I know) they would stop. They can't sue if no one takes the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieM Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 In this case, the motive escapes me. I mean, underneath their ludicrous exterior, this group operates to generate revenue through inciting lawsuits. Could they possibly generate income via a trip of this nature? My only guess is that this is extortion on a grand scale. Perhaps they think if they threaten loud enough, someone will cough up some cash to pay them to *not* go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amey311 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 My only guess is that this is extortion on a grand scale. Perhaps they think if they threaten loud enough, someone will cough up some cash to pay them to *not* go. Or give them an hour of radio time like Mike Gallagher does. It really makes me nutty because I don't want people to negotiate with WBC in this way, but I also don't want WBC showing up places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2scouts Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 What is with those people? Are they really that desperate for attention? :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauranc Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Why in the world does the media keep giving these media wh@res so much press? Don't feed the trolls—online or in real life. :iagree: My sentiments exactly. I don't understand why anyone even pays any attention to this small group of people. They are insignificant and should not be given any press. (in fact.. why am I even posting this? it gives them more attention! :tongue_smilie: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThePursuitBlog Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 As a soon to be pastor, this church and their protest of the funerals for the Norway massacre victims is horrible. He is my video response denouncing their actions and questioning their real faith! http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?feature=mhee&v=od1QqoKvHtM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 The more attention people pay to them, the more they'll protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akmommy Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 This was discussed on another on another forum I visit and someone from and living in Norway commented that free speech laws in Norway do not extend to picketing funerals and their attempt to so could land then in a mental hospital or prison for quite awhile. To be honest I hope they go and try.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I hope they go there and never come back. Except that that would exacerbate a time of great mourning for some really undeserving people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebookie Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 This is the most vile use of Christianity I have ever seen in my life. =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 This is the most vile use of Christianity I have ever seen in my life. =( MISUSE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 MISUSE! Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delighted3 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Now they get more media attention and people talk about them more if they just threaten to show up more than anything else. I seriously doubt they have the resources to go as a group to Norway. It is all about the publicity. Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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