Lovedtodeath Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 It is not a virtue to take everything seriously. For some it can be paralyzingly depressing. We all have our own ways of coping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 It would be presumptuous if you were counting on being raptured due to your own merit, but Christians put their faith in the merits and work of Christ and since He earned salvation for us, then we aren't really presuming upon anything but the righteousness of Christ, His finished work on the cross and His resurrection from the dead. I think it is a common misconception of unbelievers to think that Christians believe God saved them based on their own goodness. Christians do not believe that. They believe that God saved them based on Christ's righteousness - even the belief (faith) is a gift of God so that no man can boast. ( For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9) Thanks for the lecture, Kathleen, but this "unbeliever" used to be a "believer" and I do know the path of Salvation. I still think it is presumptuous to assume you are going to get Raptured. If you believe that god knows your heart, you cannot possibly know if you are chosen or not. You cannot possibly know if he believes in YOU enough to Rapture you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I just want to say that I will NOT euthanize my dog because if I am raptured he goes with me. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hey wait…isn't it already May 21 in parts of the world? Australia? New Zealand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) If you believe that god knows your heart, you cannot possibly know if you are chosen or not. You cannot possibly know if he believes in YOU enough to Rapture you. That is very sad. :( Hebrews 10:22 Edited May 20, 2011 by Lovedtodeath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Atl Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hey wait…isn't it already May 21 in parts of the world? Australia? New Zealand? Maybe it's only a localized rapture? :leaving: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Thanks for the lecture, Kathleen, but this "unbeliever" used to be a "believer" and I do know the path of Salvation. I still think it is presumptuous to assume you are going to get Raptured. If you believe that god knows your heart, you cannot possibly know if you are chosen or not. You cannot possibly know if he believes in YOU enough to Rapture you. Sorry if I offended you. I do not know you personally so have no way of knowing what you know about Christianity. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jryanbass Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Maybe it's only a localized rapture?:leaving: You're right, it is! But this is all supposed to be happening at 6pm in each time zone.:glare: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I still think it is presumptuous to assume you are going to get Raptured. If you believe that god knows your heart, you cannot possibly know if you are chosen or not. You cannot possibly know if he believes in YOU enough to Rapture you. I read today that Camping estimates that about 3% of the world's population is going to be raptured, so apparently he thinks most people who claim to be Christians are presuming too much, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnaM Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Sorry if I offended you. I do not know you personally so have no way of knowing what you know about Christianity. Wow. I have found that those who claim not to believe in God are often the ones more offended by Him (or the mention of any part of Christianity). If you believe that you can not know if you are going to be raptured, then I am afraid you don't know as much about salvation as you think you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 You know, we've read about a lot of peoples this year who adopted their own doomsday philosophy when their societies started to fall apart or were stressed (the Native Americans and the Ghost Dance, for instance; the Maori's and Ringatu, etc., etc.) It seems to me that the stresses of economic crises and collapses around the world, natural disasters, and wars are taking a toll on folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I have found that those who claim not to believe in God are often the ones more offended by Him (or the mention of any part of Christianity). If you believe that you can not know if you are going to be raptured, then I am afraid you don't know as much about salvation as you think you do. Oh boy. :laugh: wait….where is it…. aha. :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 You're right, it is! But this is all supposed to be happening at 6pm in each time zone.:glare: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ Hmmmm. Do we have anyone on the board from Kiritimati? They seem to be the closest, at a bit past 11am tomorrow morning. Errr… today… for them…. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 You're right, it is! But this is all supposed to be happening at 6pm in each time zone.:glare: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ That made me laugh my fanny off when I read this in a HuffPost article and also the "mathematics" that prove it's going to happen. So we're going to have a Rapture Wave? The equation behind this is hysterical. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) It would be presumptuous if you were counting on being raptured due to your own merit, but Christians put their faith in the merits and work of Christ and since He earned salvation for us, then we aren't really presuming upon anything but the righteousness of Christ, His finished work on the cross and His resurrection from the dead. I think it is a common misconception of unbelievers to think that Christians believe God saved them based on their own goodness. Christians do not believe that. They believe that God saved them based on Christ's righteousness - even the belief (faith) is a gift of God so that no man can boast. ( For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9) Christians believe a whole lot of things. Some believe it's not by grace alone that we are saved (I'm rather a letter of James sort of gal myself) and some think the Kingdom is already here and the rapture stuff is just not happening. Me again. What's presumptuous is assuming that the beliefs of one denomination define all of Christianity. If there were any truth in that there wouldn't be more then one denomination. Edited May 20, 2011 by WishboneDawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathersage Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Maybe it's only a localized rapture?:leaving: 6 p.m. local time (the rapture will sweep the globe time zone by time zone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejadragna Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 did he renew his license for family radio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelotmom Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I read today that Camping estimates that about 3% of the world's population is going to be raptured, so apparently he thinks most people who claim to be Christians are presuming too much, too. Do you happen to know what he says about kids? At least Jenkins and LaHaye took that into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I am hoping that this is not a continued trend. When Camping wrote 1994 he actually set things up to include a back-up date of 2011. So when it didn't happen in 1994, his followers were a little disappointed, but were already set on waiting until 2011. As far as I know he hasn't set anymore back-up dates. So I really hope and pray that when this passes it will be the end of his deception. I sincerely hope and pray that you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Do you happen to know what he says about kids? At least Jenkins and LaHaye took that into account. no, but that's a good question. It was just an offhand thing tossed into an article I read. It wasn't sourced, so I have no idea how accurate it is. I imagine one could go wade through all the stuff on his website to try to find it, though...if one had time. Which, of course, we don't anymore :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Food4Thought Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 6 p.m. local time (the rapture will sweep the globe time zone by time zone) So it's like Santa? We should start a rapture watch. I wish I lived between time zones for events like this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) I have found that those who claim not to believe in God are often the ones more offended by Him (or the mention of any part of Christianity). If you believe that you can not know if you are going to be raptured, then I am afraid you don't know as much about salvation as you think you do. Yeah Audrey. So there. :p ;) I'm thinking that as a Christian who doesn't believe in rapture period I must not know a darn thing by those standards. Edited May 20, 2011 by WishboneDawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Elf Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 If you believe that you can not know if you are going to be raptured, then I am afraid you don't know as much about salvation as you think you do. And SLAM, BAM. I love these threads! I'm :lurk5: with a previous poster. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yeah Audrey. So there. :p :D:D:D:D I'm laughing so much I now have to explain this to my kids and I don't want them knowing there are people out there in the world like this. I can only imagine the questions from here on out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Elf Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 6 p.m. local time (the rapture will sweep the globe time zone by time zone) DH wants to know if daylight savings has been taken into account. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.S. Burrow Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Maybe it's only a localized rapture?:leaving: No, no, no..........it STARTS at 6pm on May 21 in New Zealand at the International Date Line. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 :thumbup1: Dawn. I think it is a common misconception of unbelievers to think that Christians believe God saved them based on their own goodness. Christians do not believe that. They believe that God saved them based on Christ's righteousness I think that there are a lot of Christians who have trouble understanding this. It took me a good 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Y2K was my favorite! Dh finally threw out his tin of Y2K beans the other week :lol: Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hey wait…isn't it already May 21 in parts of the world? Australia? New Zealand? Well yeah, it is. Not that I would expect to be raptured. It would be a heck of a surprise for me. !! The weather looks to be nice, though... :) Rosie Edit: Oh, I see from further reading that none of this will happen until 6pm. It's not 6pm yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.S. Burrow Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Well yeah, it is. Not that I would expect to be raptured. It would be a heck of a surprise for me. !! The weather looks to be nice, though... :) Rosie Ah, but Rosie is it 6pm yet? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooblink Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Dh finally threw out his tin of Y2K beans the other week :lol: Rosie We're still using MILs Sterno and matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Maybe this is why the CDC has come out with guide lines on what to do if Zombies try to take over the world? Zombie Apocalypse I am flabbergasted. The CDC?!?!? How much money did THAT cost us??? :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Christians believe a whole lot of things. Some believe it's not by grace alone that we are saved (I'm rather a letter of James sort of gal myself). What's presumptuous is assuming that the beliefs of one denomination define all of Christianity. If there were any truth in that there wouldn't be more then one denomination. :iagree: It is going to be really sad for anyone who was whole-heartedly into this if they're still here come Sunday. (They probably also wouldn't appreciate my "what are you doing during the apocalypse" FB thread.... My answer is watching Dr. Horrible.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I am flabbergasted. The CDC?!?!? How much money did THAT cost us??? :glare: It looks like a blog, not an official CDC posting. A ton of places have member content now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I am flabbergasted. The CDC?!?!? How much money did THAT cost us??? :glare: huh? How much did it cost to write one blog post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 It looks like a blog, not an official CDC posting. A ton of places have member content now. Oh. Phew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 And SLAM, BAM. I love these threads! I'm :lurk5: with a previous poster. :tongue_smilie: Oh, yeah. I wonder how many people read that and pulled out the popcorn. :lol: I don't think I'll be scooped up in the Christian rapture tomorrow, but that's ok because I am expecting to ascend with all my woo-woo friends on Dec 21, 2012. ;) On a more serious note, I do feel for these families. I hope they are met with grace and kindness after tomorrow, and that any healing between family members happens easily for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yeah Audrey. So there. :p ;) I'm thinking that as a Christian who doesn't believe in rapture period I must not know a darn thing by those standards. Oh poor me. :lol: Maybe you and I could get together for a little post-Rapture coffee clatch. I'll bring the marshmallows. Should be plenty of flames for roasting 'em. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I am flabbergasted. The CDC?!?!? How much money did THAT cost us??? :glare: It's just a blog post about disaster preparedness--and because they mention zombies people actually read it. Brilliant IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 So it's like Santa? We should start a rapture watch. I wish I lived between time zones for events like this! NORAD - Rapture Tracker :lol::lol::lol: Commencing at 6pm on Saturday the 21st May, NORAD will use it's highly acclaimed "SantaTracker" network of satellites and webcams to follow the Rapture from it's beginning in Fiji and New Zealand and on, through the Far East, Asia, Europe and finally to the United States of America. It is expected that the Rapture will change speed as it travels the world time zones. This may mean that the Rapture arrives a little earlier or later than expected in your local time zone, and so you should be prepared a little early, and not be too disappointed if you are still here a little later than you expect. This is due to the logistics of transporting the various population densities of expected "rapturees" in various parts of the world. Clearly, for example, the Rapture will move speedily through Europe, especially because the Catholics are not going, but slow down massively when it hits the East Coast of the USA, slowing almost to a crawl when it hits Tulsa, but then speeding considerably as it mops up California. Travel arrangements have been made to accommodate the Southern Baptists, staging posts might be required. More at the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I am flabbergasted. The CDC?!?!? How much money did THAT cost us??? :glare: It looks like a marketing/public awareness strategy. There is a related contest. Seems effective! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Food4Thought Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 NORAD - Rapture Tracker :lol::lol::lol: More at the link. Awesome. For once, I really did LOL. :lol: Thanks for sharing the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Food4Thought Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 It looks like a marketing/public awareness strategy. There is a related contest. Seems effective! Yeah, it's effective for general emergency preparedness, but they are definitely missing a few things if we're preparing for zombies!! I mean, no shotguns, machetes, or baseball bats? Sorry, I'm not fighting zombies with duct tape and utility knives. :leaving: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Thanks for the lecture, Kathleen, but this "unbeliever" used to be a "believer" and I do know the path of Salvation. I still think it is presumptuous to assume you are going to get Raptured. If you believe that god knows your heart, you cannot possibly know if you are chosen or not. You cannot possibly know if he believes in YOU enough to Rapture you. But that has nothing to do with what salvation is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I am flabbergasted. The CDC?!?!? How much money did THAT cost us??? :glare: Probably very, very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlifemom Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 NORAD - Rapture Tracker :lol::lol::lol: More at the link. (snort snort giggle giggle) That is so wrong! Funny, but wrong. Where's the spit your drink onto the computer screen smiley when you need it? :smilielol5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I have a friend in Australia to keep me posted :tongue_smilie:. No signs so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I am flabbergasted. The CDC?!?!? How much money did THAT cost us??? :glare: You'd begrudge a little money for some well timed zombie apocalypse information??? What kind of person ARE you? Besides the kind that enjoys watching people get their brains munched on? Really.:tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Oh poor me. :lol: Maybe you and I could get together for a little post-Rapture coffee clatch. I'll bring the marshmallows. Should be plenty of flames for roasting 'em. ;) :lol: I'm in 'cause I know I am SOOO not going to be raptured (or whatever the proper verb is) now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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