albeto. Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 You're a better person than I not to specifically recommend that one. The forbidden fruit is always the most tempting, my dear. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaOfalotta Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm not an atheist, I'm a Christian, actually... and when I saw it... I was all like.... :ohmy: :leaving: Just sayin. & I didn't even have to watch the video. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 As far as I can tell the original vid isn't even by a Christian - that isn't what made it funny. But I'm super hard to offend. My bubble is apparently offense proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hornblower Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I have seen Tim Minchin before, and I do like the song, "Thank You God". (The song doesn't start till 5:29 in the video. Search for "Thank You God - Tim Minchin") That's the same song as Sam's Mum mentioned above :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Julie - I'll check it out when I get back - I tried watching Sam's Mum but it was too long to squeeze in while making food and teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Julie - I'll check it out when I get back - I tried watching Sam's Mum but it was too long to squeeze in while making food and teaching. If I Didn't Have You is pretty funny and actually has nothing to do with religion. And no swearing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Just watched it. That was twelve minutes of a good chuckle :) His facial expressions were funnier than the lyrics. I imagine he is a hoot live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If I Didn't Have You is pretty funny and actually has nothing to do with religion. And no swearing. Better at tracing? I admit he got a few belly laughs on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Just wanting to add a far more fun(ny) video for (most people) potentially reading this thread - just to not have this thread be a semi complete waste of time (as it was for some of us): http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/553632-operation-breakup/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropymama Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I personally have lots of thought on the Duggars. I have refrained from posting them here and have instead posted the on the Great Orange Satan(DailyKos). This is a homeschool board not a religious or political board. ETA: While I've avoided the Duggar threads... they are mostly about child molestation not religion... If you happen to be Christian you could refer to Matthew 7:20. That would be the General Education Board. Around here, it's all religion and politics, all the time. Except when it's vaccinations and breastfeeding. :laugh: Seriously, though, we talk about a lot of touchy stuff around here and we (mostly) stay friends. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Guys, this IS the chat board, and I'm responsible for moderating it. And I've just had a dozen reports on this thread. Honestly, I'm feeling a bit conflicted. So, two things. Could you... 1. stop reporting it? I know it's here, and 2. if you think board ethos is against a satirical presentation such as this, message me with your thoughts? Open to hearing them. SWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocolatechip Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Meh. I'm a Christian, but I didn't really find this funny. FWIW, I don't feel that he was trying to make atheists sound like morons. His gluten-free one, on the other hand. . .that one was hilarious!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Perhaps you've missed the Duggar threads? Didn't know child molestation was a religion. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 No doubt. I've got lots of tongue in cheek stuff, too. I do. :laugh: I enjoy his videos, too, but this community has a thing about religious beliefs being respected. Surely a truly Christian person would want to do unto others, no? But if the community is ready to laugh at itself, I think that would be fun. Oh my, if we get to make fun of Christians I vote for the Farting Preacher. >flashes her Christian-but-not-the-right-flavor-for-fundies creds before anyone freaks< 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Didn't know child molestation was a religion. Clearly you have not spent enough time in church. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Thanks for sharing, Sadie :) Gervais doesn't do it for me. His comic timing isn't my preference and I don't find his material particularly funny - Minchin was much more amusing. I totally disagree with censoring that or other YouTube videos of his, however. Being the most offended doesn't mean someone therefore gets their way. For the believers who have a big issue with Animals and other such bits, I don't see why they can't just roll their eyes and move on? I'm not threatened by a silly comedian. Or a YouTube video. And I don't have a right to go through life without irritation or offense. Minchin brought up a good point that everyone has 'a line' - he's right. Susan getting bombarded with flags over a silly man in a flower headband with candles demonstrates that well enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Perhaps you've missed the Duggar threads? Oh? Those are mocking Christians? I must have missed that part of the bible that says "go forth and molest your sisters repeatedly." 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Meh. I'm a Christian, but I didn't really find this funny. FWIW, I don't feel that he was trying to make atheists sound like morons. His gluten-free one, on the other hand. . .that one was hilarious!!! I'm not Christian, I'm Catholic. ;-) and I didn't think it was funny, either. You can find most of the statements he made in threads here that reference religion, atheism, belief, God, death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Oh? Those are mocking Christians? I must have missed that part of the bible that says "go forth and molest your sisters repeatedly." *whispers* it doesn't! More seriously, there were definitely some unkind comments toward Christians in general on that thread. It doesn't mean it should be shut down, because myself or anyone else was bothered by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeto. Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Oh? Those are mocking Christians? I must have missed that part of the bible that says "go forth and molest your sisters repeatedly." It just says when you sell your daughter for another man and his son to molest, get a fair price and make sure she's molested with honor. - Exodus 21:7-11 Joke, people! Lighten up! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 It just says when you sell your daughter for another man and his son to molest, get a fair price and make sure she's molested with honor. - Exodus 21:7-11 Joke, people! Lighten up! Pfft. Don't you know telling people to have a sense of humor means you're an insensitive jerk? I'm almost positive page one concluded that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 More seriously, there were definitely some unkind comments toward Christians in general on that thread. It doesn't mean it should be shut down, because myself or anyone else was bothered by it. I think comments made in the course of a discussion are one thing — there have certainly been derogatory comments about atheists (they have no morals!), Muslims, Catholics, and various denominations of Christians made in a multitude of threads here. But IMO that's different from purposely starting a thread with the sole purpose of mocking the beliefs of fellow board members. That's just being nasty for the sake of being nasty, not an expression of sincere beliefs made in the course of an actual discussion. I think the reaction would have been very different if someone had started a thread called "How to be a Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/Hindu/Pagan" and posted a link to a video mocking that group. People would be wondering WTH was the point of that, other than to insult the board members with those beliefs? To me, the issue isn't even the content (which I think is lame and unoriginal), it's the snotty intent behind starting a thread for the sole purpose of mocking people. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeto. Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Pfft. Don't you know telling people to have a sense of humor means you're an insensitive jerk? I'm almost positive page one concluded that point. Bless your heart. I'm just making sure people without bubbles of steel don't get the wrong impression. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Where I'd disagree with you is I think you are assuming intent. I would have found any of those amusing. I wouldn't have assumed any particular malice, because the poster nor the content was inherently malicious. Again, though, I don't believe threads should be created or discussed with the most sensitive individual in mind. That's a whole different kind of tyranny. We will see what Susan decides, but I've seen no harm from a single video in this thread, including those far more biting than the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeto. Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think comments made in the course of a discussion are one thing — there have certainly been derogatory comments about atheists (they have no morals!), Muslims, Catholics, and various denominations of Christians made in a multitude of threads here. But IMO that's different from purposely starting a thread with the sole purpose of mocking the beliefs of fellow board members. That's just being nasty for the sake of being nasty, not an expression of sincere beliefs made in the course of an actual discussion. I think the reaction would have been very different if someone had started a thread called "How to be a Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/Hindu/Pagan" and posted a link to a video mocking that group. People would be wondering WTH was the point of that, other than to insult the board members with those beliefs? To me, the issue isn't even the content (which I think is lame and unoriginal), it's the snotty intent behind starting a thread for the sole purpose of mocking people. Can you imagine a thread satirizing unwed mothers? Or what about satirizing circumcision? A satirical look at abortion, maybe? Spanking? How funny would that be? That wouldn't be divisive and hostile at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occasionally Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think comments made in the course of a discussion are one thing — there have certainly been derogatory comments about atheists (they have no morals!), Muslims, Catholics, and various denominations of Christians made in a multitude of threads here. But IMO that's different from purposely starting a thread with the sole purpose of mocking the beliefs of fellow board members. That's just being nasty for the sake of being nasty, not an expression of sincere beliefs made in the course of an actual discussion. I think the reaction would have been very different if someone had started a thread called "How to be a Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/Hindu/Pagan" and posted a link to a video mocking that group. People would be wondering WTH was the point of that, other than to insult the board members with those beliefs? To me, the issue isn't even the content (which I think is lame and unoriginal), it's the snotty intent behind starting a thread for the sole purpose of mocking people. Can I get a RAmen? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz4me Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think comments made in the course of a discussion are one thing — there have certainly been derogatory comments about atheists (they have no morals!), Muslims, Catholics, and various denominations of Christians made in a multitude of threads here. But IMO that's different from purposely starting a thread with the sole purpose of mocking the beliefs of fellow board members. That's just being nasty for the sake of being nasty, not an expression of sincere beliefs made in the course of an actual discussion. I think the reaction would have been very different if someone had started a thread called "How to be a Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/Hindu/Pagan" and posted a link to a video mocking that group. People would be wondering WTH was the point of that, other than to insult the board members with those beliefs? To me, the issue isn't even the content (which I think is lame and unoriginal), it's the snotty intent behind starting a thread for the sole purpose of mocking people. Yes. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Bless your heart. I'm just making sure people without bubbles of steel don't get the wrong impression. Yes, that was the vibe I got from your deleted comment, too. Needless to say I disgree. Empathy is one thing, but I don't believe it need be a censoring factor in a non personal discussion, if this was about an individual I'd have a different opinion. Groups and methods and theories? Fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeto. Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Yes, that was the vibe I got from your deleted comment, too. Needless to say I disgree. Empathy is one thing, but I don't believe it need be a censoring factor in a non personal discussion, if this was about an individual I'd have a different opinion. Groups and methods and theories? Fair game. But they're not fair game. Not here. That's the problem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I wouldn't be one calling for it to be shut down. But it's not my board, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Where I'd disagree with you is I think you are assuming intent. I would have found any of those amusing. I wouldn't have assumed any particular malice, because the poster nor the content was inherently malicious. Again, though, I don't believe threads should be created or discussed with the most sensitive individual in mind. That's a whole different kind of tyranny. We will see what Susan decides, but I've seen no harm from a single video in this thread, including those far more biting than the original post. If Albeto started this thread, with the exact same link, it would have had a different tone because she is a part of the group being made fun of. Just like if you go to a comedy club and the Latino comedian makes a joke about his community it will likely get a better reception than if he made a joke about the black community. If Albeto started a thread poking fun at Christians it would have board members pushing the report button so hard they'd break their fingers. Context matters. Being self deprecating about a group you have/had membership of is not the same as mocking a group you view as other. 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom-ninja. Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If Albeto started a thread poking fun at Christians it would have board members pushing the report button so hard they'd break their fingers. Pretty sure all the reports would have crashed the server. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I cannot control everyone else's thin skinned, button pushing tendencies, but I disagree that the originating poster should make a difference in the reception of the same content. That's ridiculous. Nothing was posted here I would personally think needs censoring on a chat board among adults of varying beliefs. Thats an impossible standard of conversation to maintain. We will see if Susan allows or bans such things, but going halfway based on who originated the content is untenable. I'm good, either way. We shall see :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hey people, when you've finished laughing at the funny atheists, come over to my new thread - Let's Laugh at How Silly Anti-Gay Marriage People Are! Don't forget to bring a smilie! Go for it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I cannot control everyone else's thin skinned, button pushing tendencies, but I disagree that the originating poster should make a difference in the reception of the same content. That's ridiculous. Nothing was posted here I would personally think needs censoring on a chat board among adults of varying beliefs. Thats an impossible standard of conversation to maintain. We will see if Susan allows or bans such things, but going halfway based on who originated the content is untenable. I'm good, either way. We shall see :) Who said this should be banned? That was post number what? What I see people expressing is frustration that anything even remotely critical of any wing/sect of Christianity is met with the human cry of "persecution" but outright making fun of another spiritual position is just a bit of a joke. (Except Westboro. I think everyone is in agreement that they are batshit crazy.) And before you respond with how much criticism Christianity takes on this board and in society, in this thread alone someone has pointed out the Duggar thread as being mocking of Christians. That the disgust over child sexual abuse and it's massively mishandled reporting and treatment could be compared to hating on the Christians is in.freaking.sane. If you truly do not catch the differences and distinctions in what people are saying I truly cannot help you. I do not know how much more plainly it could be put. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeto. Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Like the noodles? Mmmmm..... noooooodles... Like His Noodly Goodness. Open Letter To Kansas School Board I am writing you with much concern after having read of your hearing to decide whether the alternative theory of Intelligent Design should be taught along with the theory of Evolution. I think we can all agree that it is important for students to hear multiple viewpoints so they can choose for themselves the theory that makes the most sense to them. I am concerned, however, that students will only hear one theory of Intelligent Design. Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him. It is for this reason that I’m writing you today, to formally request that this alternative theory be taught in your schools, along with the other two theories. In fact, I will go so far as to say, if you do not agree to do this, we will be forced to proceed with legal action. I’m sure you see where we are coming from. If the Intelligent Design theory is not based on faith, but instead another scientific theory, as is claimed, then you must also allow our theory to be taught, as it is also based on science, not on faith. Some find that hard to believe, so it may be helpful to tell you a little more about our beliefs. We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power. Also, you may be surprised to hear that there are over 10 million of us, and growing. We tend to be very secretive, as many people claim our beliefs are not substantiated by observable evidence. What these people don’t understand is that He built the world to make us think the earth is older than it really is. For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 10,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage. We have numerous texts that describe in detail how this can be possible and the reasons why He does this. He is of course invisible and can pass through normal matter with ease. I’m sure you now realize how important it is that your students are taught this alternate theory. It is absolutely imperative that they realize that observable evidence is at the discretion of a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Furthermore, it is disrespectful to teach our beliefs without wearing His chosen outfit, which of course is full pirate regalia. I cannot stress the importance of this enough, and unfortunately cannot describe in detail why this must be done as I fear this letter is already becoming too long. The concise explanation is that He becomes angry if we don’t. You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature. In conclusion, thank you for taking the time to hear our views and beliefs. I hope I was able to convey the importance of teaching this theory to your students. We will of course be able to train the teachers in this alternate theory. I am eagerly awaiting your response, and hope dearly that no legal action will need to be taken. I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism (Pastafarianism), and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence. Sincerely Yours, Bobby Henderson, concerned citizen. P.S. I have included an artistic drawing of Him creating a mountain, trees, and a midget. Remember, we are all His creatures. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I'm not watching any of the videos suggested or linked because I would be offended by someone making fun of gluten free people. Hi Lulu! I've missed you, oh nefarious twin. MUAH! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Pretty sure she would be banned. Again. She's been banned!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeto. Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 She's been banned!? Interestingly enough, for simply pointing out facts, not mocking and ridiculing people. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I am completely offended that anyone would find this video appropriate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runningmom80 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I kept waiting for it to be funny? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 THIS one is funnier: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Where I'd disagree with you is I think you are assuming intent. I would have found any of those amusing. I wouldn't have assumed any particular malice, because the poster nor the content was inherently malicious. So if a Christian specifically started a thread called "How to Be a Muslim" and posted a video which was trying to "humorously" show how stupid Muslim beliefs are, you would assume it was just a random, amusing video and the OP had no intention whatsoever of actually mocking Muslims? Even if she specifically called out that group in the thread title and there was no other purpose in starting the thread other than posting that video? If Albeto started this thread, with the exact same link, it would have had a different tone because she is a part of the group being made fun of. It might have a different tone, but to be honest I still think it would be inappropriate. I just don't see the point of starting a thread that has no purpose other than mocking the beliefs of a specific group of people, even if it's started by a member of the group being mocked. No individual member of a group represents every other member of the group, so why start any thread when the only intent is to offend — or to amuse other members of your in-group at the expense of the out-group. It's just childish, IMO. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Interestingly enough, for simply pointing out facts, not mocking and ridiculing people. This explains much of our conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 THIS one is funnier: STOP IT. I have stated my views clearly on the subject, and now you simply mock me. <sob> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Interestingly enough, for simply pointing out facts, not mocking and ridiculing people. I'm sorry to hear that. That's really unfair if you were being courteous while being direct, which I've always seen you to be :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 nm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 THIS one is funnier: I'm telling you. Super Spiritual Dating takes the cake. And it's a gluten free cake, at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lulu* Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 STOP IT. I have stated my views clearly on the subject, and now you simply mock me. <sob> Suck it up Buttercup. (And I have missed you too! I thought of you last night as I was hustling about the backyard rescuing a baby bunny from Wondermutt, wearing yoga pants of course.) B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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