AmyontheFarm Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 My husband does not want the kids having access to any sort of art which shows a person or people in the nude. My girlfriend takes a black sharpie to her books and draws clothes on them. I feel that children should be allowed to see this artwork. I don't see anything wrong with it, it's not my personal tastes, but I would rather the children were exposed to it, with me by their side, then hide it away and make it taboo by freaking out every time they might see something. What says the Hive? This started because I bought the Annotated Mona Lisa by Carol Strickland and it is now in the house. There would be 29 pictures that my hubby would want "edited". My plan is to use this and another Art series set of books for a High school art credit. My son is 13 now but won't be using these books until he is 14 almost 15, if that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kewb Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Since I have been taking my kids to museums since they were little and they have seen all manner of naked statuary and paintings I can not imagine this being an issue at the high school level. The human body is beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I would buy a different book before I would tear out pages or mark them up. By marking them up you are creating the problem you don't want to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I absolutely do not have a problem with my kids seeing classic art that involves naked bodies, so I don't know what I would do in your situation. But I wanted to say thanks for bringing that book to my attention. It looks like a great book for the purpose you have in mind. I definitely would not draw clothes on the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 IMHO, this just makes a big deal out of something that really isn't a big deal. I can't imagine taking a sharpie to a book. To me this goes against why we study art. I know someone who just puts post-its on things she knows would make her young dd giggle and derail the lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I tend to think along the same lines as do you, OP. We've been doing museums and art appreciation since get-go, so my kids have seen nudes on a regular basis. My sister is an artist, and we have two of her (nude) pieces above my bathtub - the same tub the kids use for bathing. LOL It's just not an issue here. They see 3D nudes, too, but that's mostly because we walk around the bedrooms that way. I prefer the idea of a post-it to a Sharpie. I'm not an artist, but having grown up with one ... I guess there just feels like something very wrong about defacing a piece of art, even if the intention is not the defacing itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammi K Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 My daughter is an art major in collage. She has had studio drawing classes for the last 3 years. Every time she comes home to visit she seems to be working on another drawing of someone minus their clothing. I think my boys are pretty well immune to (or have learned to ignore) it. For us, it just isn't an issue. Edit: I forgot to add this but I think it's rather 'funny'. My daughter need photos of her art work to submit in her portfolio so she asked her sister -who is 15- to take photos of all of her work. Photog daughter took pictures of artist daughter's work and posted it on FB so artist daughter could see the quality. Photo daughter had several of her photos flagged as 'pornographic'. I guess we don't all view 'art' in the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think the idea of censoring artwork to that extent is plain stupid. Heck censoring out that much means you will miss most of the artwork of teh renaissance. As my kids put it, they were obsessed with boobs and junk lol Frankly, I think it is much healthier to expose your kids to this artwork by your side rather than making it something to be ashamed of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 My kids have been going to museums since they were teeny tiny. They have been exposed to loads of nude art. I actually had this painting on my schoolroom wall for a while: http://s3.amazonaws.com/estock_dev/fspid12/51/81/52/howardpyle-mermaid-painting-518152-o.jpg Currently, this is on the wall in my office: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/images/products/pjatteryd-picture__0087775_PE217561_S4.JPG I strongly disapprove of censoring artwork. Are you really going to make it so that your kids can't go in a museum without shame or embarrassment being attached to the visit? We use The Annotated Mona Lisa. I also have the Sister Wendy book. My kids have looked things up in the latter regularly since they were pretty young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Well, I'll jump in and say I get it. We skip studying artwork that includes nudes as well. My kids, even my high schoolers, would be uncomfortable with it and I'm fine that they're uncomfortable with it. I'm uncomfortable with it, too. I don't think people should be going around naked in public. The body IS beautiful, I agree. It's just private-beautiful, in my world, not for-all-the-world-to-see beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Our local art galleries don't have nudes, Sadie. Think small rural town of 10,000 people. We have one art gallery focused on the work of John Clymer and one more general and upscale, but I don't recall ever seeing a nude in there either. ETA -- If we came upon one, we'd avert our eyes and move along. No big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If you had the chance, would you go to a larger gallery that will probably have a nude or two ? I'm not picking on you, BTW, I just know you are a good sport about answering. Thanks for the last statement, it made me more willing to answer. I don't want to be jumped on or thought ill of just because of something like this. Not a hill to die on, IMO. I'd love to go to a "real" art gallery. I edited my post above to say that we'd probably avert our eyes and move on -- not make a big deal about it or judge the artist or those that enjoy that artwork at all. We just wouldn't like it. I can even say that comfortably for my kids (not like we're shielding them and they're just following mindlessly along at all -- it's truly not that way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 My husband does not want the kids having access to any sort of art which shows a person or people in the nude. My feeling is that by making it seem taboo, it creates a sense that it's supposed to be titillating, while not making a big deal out of it would take any lewdness away. I think your dh's attitude will make the kids more interested in seeing nudity than if no one made a big deal out of it. (Obviously, I'm only talking about nudity in the artwork. I'm definitely not saying it's fine for kids to see p*rn or whatever!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroe1 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I think the bigger issue is that you and DH agree for the final outcome. A 14 to 15 year old boy doesn't need much for his mind to wander. Since your DH has BTDT, I would bow to his thoughts on this. You can win the next confrontation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 If you have to draw on the pictures and hide what you are studying from your dh, I would skip Art as a subject altogether. When you make these subjects taboo, you elevate them and you completely distort the meaning behind the art. I'd rather skip it as a subject than distort it. If the opportunity arose, I might try to supplement history with trips to the art museum and look are paintings of specific periods in a matter of fact manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest submarines Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Studying art that includes nudity, and even studying nudity in art, gives children a valuable perspective on nudity, its purpose and meaning, in various contexts. Sure, one can avoid art galleries. It is much harder to avoid malls and grocery stores, where advertisement in store windows and on magazine covers, though might have the bikini areas and the nipples covered, still includes plenty of human body and nakedness and degrees of undress. P*rn, too, is one click away, and exposure can be accidental. Studying art is like a buffer against all this. It teaches people to be aware and to know the difference between art and p*rn. It teaches people that there's a difference between art, and a semi-nude model on a magazine cover. It teaches people to know *when* to be uncomfortable when exposed to nudity. It refines their understanding. It is pretty much essential to study art that includes nudity, especially for those who are afraid of nudity being somehow improper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Studying art that includes nudity, and even studying nudity in art, gives children a valuable perspective on nudity, its purpose and meaning, in various contexts. Sure, one can avoid art galleries. It is much harder to avoid malls and grocery stores, where advertisement in store windows and on magazine covers, though might have the bikini areas and the nipples covered, still includes plenty of human body and nakedness and degrees of undress. P*rn, too, is one click away, and exposure can be accidental. Studying art is like a buffer against all this. It teaches people to be aware and to know the difference between art and p*rn. It teaches people that there's a difference between art, and a semi-nude model on a magazine cover. It teaches people to know *when* to be uncomfortable when exposed to nudity. It refines their understanding. It is pretty much essential to study art that includes nudity, especially for those who are afraid of nudity being somehow improper. :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: Seeing nudity in the context of art helps DE-sexualize it, whereas defacing it with sharpies or even covering it with post-its only serves to create sexual associations that were never there to begin with. And once kids move away from home, no one is going to be scribbling out the body parts in everything they see. IMO, teaching them that all nudity, in all contexts, is inherently sexual (and therefore potentially arousing and/or shame-inducing), can set them up for real problems when they are adults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 My kids have been going to museums since they were teeny tiny. They have been exposed to loads of nude art. I actually had this painting on my schoolroom wall for a while: http://s3.amazonaws.com/estock_dev/fspid12/51/81/52/howardpyle-mermaid-painting-518152-o.jpg Currently, this is on the wall in my office: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/images/products/pjatteryd-picture__0087775_PE217561_S4.JPG I strongly disapprove of censoring artwork. Are you really going to make it so that your kids can't go in a museum without shame or embarrassment being attached to the visit? We use The Annotated Mona Lisa. I also have the Sister Wendy book. My kids have looked things up in the latter regularly since they were pretty young. I love those works! Studying art that includes nudity, and even studying nudity in art, gives children a valuable perspective on nudity, its purpose and meaning, in various contexts. Sure, one can avoid art galleries. It is much harder to avoid malls and grocery stores, where advertisement in store windows and on magazine covers, though might have the bikini areas and the nipples covered, still includes plenty of human body and nakedness and degrees of undress. P*rn, too, is one click away, and exposure can be accidental. Studying art is like a buffer against all this. It teaches people to be aware and to know the difference between art and p*rn. It teaches people that there's a difference between art, and a semi-nude model on a magazine cover. It teaches people to know *when* to be uncomfortable when exposed to nudity. It refines their understanding. It is pretty much essential to study art that includes nudity, especially for those who are afraid of nudity being somehow improper. :iagree: Nudity is everywhere. I can't imagine comparing Victoria's Secret ads to Bouguereau, for example. My kids laugh freely when my toddler runs through naked, and cover their eyes to kissing on TV, but don't bat an eye examining art at museums, even nudes. They love ancient statues, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer3141 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 If you have to draw on the pictures and hide what you are studying from your dh, I would skip Art as a subject altogether. When you make these subjects taboo, you elevate them and you completely distort the meaning behind the art. I'd rather skip it as a subject than distort it. If the opportunity arose, I might try to supplement history with trips to the art museum and look are paintings of specific periods in a matter of fact manner. Skip art. Your family won't be able to appreciate it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I think the bigger issue is that you and DH agree for the final outcome. A 14 to 15 year old boy doesn't need much for his mind to wander. Since your DH has BTDT, I would bow to his thoughts on this. You can win the next confrontation. I don't think you're giving teenage boys enough credit. As the parent of a teenage boy who doesn't bat an eye at nudity in classical artwork, I can tell you that if I was worried that he would become aroused by a painting or a sculpture at the museum, I would be the one with the dirty mind. I think the OP's dh has a very unfortunate perspective on this matter, and if it was my dh, I wouldn't consider "agreeing on the final outcome" to be the bigger issue at all, and I most certainly wouldn't bow to his thoughts on something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest submarines Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I don't think you're giving teenage boys enough credit. As the parent of a teenage boy who doesn't bat an eye at nudity in classical artwork, I can tell you that if I was worried that he would become aroused by a painting or a sculpture at the museum, I would be the one with the dirty mind. I think the OP's dh has a very unfortunate perspective on this matter, and if it was my dh, I wouldn't consider "agreeing on the final outcome" to be the bigger issue at all, and I most certainly wouldn't bow to his thoughts on something like this. :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: Absolutely. In terms of skipping art. I think that people who cover nudes in an art textbook don't understand art. No matter how many teacher manuals they'll read, they won't be able to teach it, to really teach it, in any meaningful way. Sure, names and dates, and styles can be drilled, but without real understanding or love for the subject, what's the point? Just to have it on a piece of paper, marked as "done?" Art is an elective in high schools. Not a big deal to skip it. If a child is driven towards art, he'll find a way to art appreciation, either formal or informal. "Private Life of a Masterpiece" (BBC) is available for free on youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan C. Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Well...... dh is an artist and art major. He went to a Christian college, where they didn't have nude models, but they did study the artwork. In sculpture, they had to leave out a few parts.... (lol). My dd20 is an art minor at a secular college. So she has seen it all. But she is an adult, loves art, so that is just how it is. My dh says "you have to know where everything is (so you can draw, sculpt it)." When dc were younger, we never told them that nude artwork was bad. I believe in protecting the youngers, but as they grow up, no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I'd rather skip it as a subject than distort it. I feel the same way about drawing on paintings. That's why I pretty much haven't done it. But I *have* chosen to not use materials that includes nudes. Or do you consider just choosing works that don't include nudes a distortion? I'd hope not. That's our modus operandi. No problem. I don't believe we're creating a situation where things are sexualized or whatever else grave concerns were noted above. It's not about sex, but (for our family -- not going to argue against what you do for your family) about modesty. Going around with clothing off, or viewing people going around with clothing off, is not our choice. Yes, we see it, but not regularly and it does make us uncomfortable. They know to avert their eyes at the checkout stand, we go to the lake early in the day before the college students show up, we don't watch shows -- oh, wait, that's where they get a view of human flesh if you need them to have that. We like to watch Jane Austen and other period pieces. :D Again, none of this -- for us -- is about nudity, but about modesty. Being modest -- for us -- includes not being nude in public or (through art prints) before the eyes of others. Our kids don't think the human body is bad just because we choose to not look at nudes in classical art. That's silly. We know and they know that God made the human body and we appreciate this gift. We talk about that quite a lot when we study human anatomy in science. They don't have a bad view of things sexual because of our approach. They know their dad and I get naked together and have sex. They have a healthy view of the body and of sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 My children have been viewing art and going to museums since they were small. I've at times had prints with nudity hanging on our walls while they were being studied. Honestly, taking a sharpie to a work of art is wrong. If someone feels that strongly about the human body, just keep it out of your house instead of degrading the art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Honestly, taking a sharpie to a work of art is wrong. If someone feels that strongly about the human body nudity, just keep it out of your house instead of degrading the art. There, fixed that for you. ;) Just because someone doesn't like nudity in art doesn't mean they have hangups about the human body. I think it's important for that to be understood. I don't like viewing nudity in art, but have no problem with the human body. I agree with "just keep it [artistic nudity] out of the house" though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzybluecheese Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 There, fixed that for you. ;) Just because someone doesn't like nudity in art doesn't mean they have hangups about the human body. I think it's important for that to be understood. I don't like viewing nudity in art, but have no problem with the human body. I agree with "just keep it [artistic nudity] out of the house" though. LOL. So you figuratively took a sharpie to her quote because you didn't like what she said. Love the irony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 There, fixed that for you. ;) Just because someone doesn't like nudity in art doesn't mean they have hangups about the human body. I think it's important for that to be understood. I don't like viewing nudity in art, but have no problem with the human body. I agree with "just keep it [artistic nudity] out of the house" though. I don't have an issue with nudity or the human body, nor do I see the dichotomy between the two. I understand you see them differently. My response was written from my personal POV. An issue with nudity in art is an issue with the human body in art in my opinion, and in your opinion they are different. And on that note, I don't think we're going to agree on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatHomeschoolDad Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Not wanting to start a dh bash, but I'm curious... Here, and on that other thread with the dh not wanting dd to study nursing. Is this a thing? I mean is there a trend of husbands asserting, IDK, more conservative boundaries on their kids, or maybe on their daughters? If so, why is that? A heightened sense of protection that dads have about kids, and esp daughters? If not, then I'm just picking up on coincidental threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Milovany already went pretty well into this, that there are plenty of people on the planet who aren't intentionally focusing on nude art who still enjoy art galleries, picture study, etc. etc. It's called *skip the page*. ;) There's plenty more in the world. I don't think it's something you have to get freaky about and hide or cover, but it's also not something where you open up the page and go "Ooo look, tits!" kwim? I got quite a few Sister Wendy books, videos, etc. when I was collecting stuff to really plunge in (sorry) a year ago. What a mess! That lady was so TITilated with nakedness it was constant! Oh yes, locked in her little motor home looking at naked pictures and meditating, yeah right. Whatever. To me they were disturbing and not a spiritual or uplifting or redeeming experience. To me they were violating. That's not a view many people take-- I agree. We don't take naked pictures of our kids either, not bathtub shots, not baby butt shots, nothing. So we'll just have to chalk that up to family viewpoints. And for the record, my mom took art classes in college with nude models when I was in junior high. That's one of the reasons my dd WON'T be taking classes like that. The op asked for assistance, not to have her dh dragged through the mud. My suggestion is buy the book that is least offensive to you, prescreen, and simply skip those pages. Don't make it a big deal, because it's not. Some nude art is meant to be erotic or suggestive, and some is really sort of, um, merely there. I would not allow my dc, if it's within my control, to see anything intentionally erotic, and I would not freak out if they happened to notice something merely naked as we were flipping pages. I wouldn't bother to sharpie or post-it. My friends from cs who said their teachers sharpied and whatnot said it made it this hidden, secret deal. It's not. They can know it exists. I just don't have a need to stay on that page. And if it's a page that is erotic, I'd probably rip it out, frankly. The Sister Wendy stuff definitely has works in that vein, works that to me are in the really not gonna look at that. Someone else can disagree, but that's where we fall in our house. And it's not for lack of art education, going to museums, or anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Not wanting to start a dh bash, but I'm curious... Here, and on that other thread with the dh not wanting dd to study nursing. Is this a thing? I mean is there a trend of husbands asserting, IDK, more conservative boundaries on their kids, or maybe on their daughters? If so, why is that? A heightened sense of protection that dads have about kids, and esp daughters? If not, then I'm just picking up on coincidental threads. I think it's just a coincidence that there are two threads along the same vein right now, although I thought of the other one when I first saw this one, too. :) I don't know for sure, but I assume that it's not anything new, but is simply the product of many members here with a wide variety of backgrounds and viewpoints, and every now and then a few similar threads appear at the same time. I remember once, years ago, there seemed to be quite a few threads on submissive wives, and I thought it was some kind of trend, but then the topic just sort of faded away. I'm sure the same thing will happen with this, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The op asked for assistance, not to have her dh dragged through the mud. My suggestion is buy the book that is least offensive to you, prescreen, and simply skip those pages. Actually, the OP said that *she* doesn't find nudity in art offensive or problematic and asked our opinions on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Here, and on that other thread with the dh not wanting dd to study nursing. Is this a thing? I mean is there a trend of husbands asserting, IDK, more conservative boundaries on their kids, or maybe on their daughters? Not in my house. There are people like this in my wide homeschooling acquaintance circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Actually, the OP said that *she* doesn't find nudity in art offensive or problematic and asked our opinions on the matter. :iagree: And I don't think anyone was "dragging her dh through the mud." We disagreed with his perspective, but I don't think anyone judged him as being a bad person, a bad husband, or a bad father. I have a lot of respect for Amy, and I have every confidence that her dh is probably a great guy who happens to have a different perspective on this particular topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 We're conservative christians, but our pov is that God made bodies, too, and that while one should avoid the pornographic, there is value in studying the human form. .. I totally agree. We have studied art, and been to some fantastic world-class museums. I can't imagine hiding a Rubens from my kids as we go through the gallery. Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think classical nudes appeal to the prurient interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamajudy Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 My DD and DS both took art classes at the local art museum. The high school age kids draw everything from life, including the human figure. They have drawn MANY nudes - both male and female - from live nude models - from the time they were in 9th grade. In fact, my son started in 8th grade because he was so advanced that he was moved into the high school class a year early. Parents do sign a permission form for their children to draw from live nude models. Although the first time may have been a little uncomfortable for them, they quickly got used to it and it became no big deal. They started with the skeleton, then the muscles, and then the (nude) human figure from life. They are both excellent artists and do beautiful figure drawings. God made the human body. There is nothing "dirty" about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 LOL. So you figuratively took a sharpie to her quote because you didn't like what she said. Love the irony! I don't agree with Milovany's position on nude art, but I don't think the way she edited that quote deserves a piling on. She obviously meant it playfully (the winky-face gave it away), and she clearly said she edited it so nobody would mistake it for the original, and she used a strike-out which isn't exactly a sharpie-pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 LOL. So you figuratively took a sharpie to her quote because you didn't like what she said. Love the irony! I think changing people's quotes is wrong. Wow, you've sure got a lot of balls to rewrite someone's quote! Oh, gosh, such a reaction! Sorry about that. That's a common "thing" I've seen on forums -- people jokingly "fixing" quotes for others to get them to say what they themselves are thinking or to make a distinction/clarification, which is what I was doing, and then saying, "There I fixed that for you." Sorry if that hasn't been something many of you have experienced online. I have -- a lot -- and it usually gives me a good chuckle (which is the intention). That was my intent, not rewriting a quote to make it seem like someone said something they actually didn't. I don't agree with Milovany's position on nude art, but I don't think the way she edited that quote deserves a piling on. She obviously meant it playfully (the winky-face gave it away), and she clearly said she edited it so nobody would mistake it for the original, and she used a strike-out which isn't exactly a sharpie-pen. Thanks for getting it, Brilliant. You're right, the winkie should have been a clue but maybe I need more obvious clues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I don't think it's something you have to get freaky about and hide or cover, but it's also not something where you open up the page and go "Ooo look, tits!" kwim? But kids who have learned to see nudity in art as art don't turn the page and say "Oooo, look, tits!" They say "Ooooo, look, a Botticelli!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest submarines Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 But kids who have learned to see nudity in art as art don't turn the page and say "Oooo, look, tits!" They say "Ooooo, look, a Botticelli!" :iagree: Also, kids who are raised with the idea that nudity, in appropriate circumstances, is absolutely normal--like a nude baby, a nude toddler, a breastfeeding mother, other people of the same gender in a dressing room--don't say "Ooooooo, look, tits!" I think they are also more prepared to distinguish when nudity is not appropriate and react accordingly, i.e. know to protect themselves, if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammi K Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 DD, the art major, home for an impromptu visit, just walked in the door as I was reading this thread. She called down the stairs to say hello and asked if I wanted to see the newest painting she's been working on. I said sure and then asked if it had an naked BooKs. She replied, "Not yet!" :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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