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Anyone see this yet? What a terrible thing to happen....

 

British Schoolgirl Dies After VaccinationAOL / Wire Services

posted: 12 HOURS 18 MINUTES

 

(Sept. 28) - A 14-year-old British schoolgirl died Monday, shortly after receiving a cervical cancer vaccination. Local health authorities launched an "urgent" investigation but say a link between the death and the drug has not been established.

 

The teenager was administered Cervarix, a vaccine for the human papillomavirus (HPV), at her school in Conventry, England. She became sick soon after and was sent to a hospital where she died.

"No link can be made between the death and the vaccine until all the facts are known and a post-mortem takes place," said Dr Caron Grainger, the joint director of public health for NHS (National Health Service) Coventry. "We are conducting an urgent and full investigation into the events surrounding this tragedy."

 

At least three other girls at the school who received the shot also reported mild symptoms, such as dizziness and nausea, but were not hospitalized.

The batch of Cervarix vaccine used at the school has been quarantined.

Cervarix, manufactured by UK-headquartered GlaxoSmithKline, has been used for the past year in Britain's national immunization program. It is estimated that about a million girls have already safely received the vaccine. It defends against two HPV strains which cause about 70 percent of cervical cancer cases.

 

In the United States, a panel of vaccine experts at the FDA voted overwhelmingly earlier this month that Cervarix appears safe and effective for girls and women ages 10 to 25. If the FDA follows the group's advice, as it usually does, Glaxo would begin competing against Merck's Gardasil, which has controlled the U.S. market since 2006.

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It seems lately....many of the 'new' drugs are being recalled or you see plenty of 'who can I sue' ads on TV for them.

 

But really....you read some of those side effects of those drugs....and you have to wonder if the side effects are worse than the disease.

 

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The teenager was administered Cervarix, a vaccine for the human papillomavirus (HPV), at her school in Conventry, England. She became sick soon after and was sent to a hospital where she died.

"No link can be made between the death and the vaccine until all the facts are known and a post-mortem takes place," said Dr Caron Grainger, the joint director of public health for NHS (National Health Service) Coventry. "We are conducting an urgent and full investigation into the events surrounding this tragedy."

My opinion is that when it comes to vaccines they conveniently do not find a link, or chalk it up to allergies. I have personal experience with that.

 

No facts are known here. This is a non story. For all you know she could have died from an acute infection. Reacting before you have any information is uninformed and hysterical.
Yes well, I am sure that when we have more information they will have miraculously found that there is no conclusive evidence that the vaccine was the cause.
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But really....you read some of those side effects of those drugs....and you have to wonder if the side effects are worse than the disease.
I couldn't agree more!! I hate it, hate it, when my friends and family members are on a ton of prescriptions, especially if any are statin drugs.

 

When I had CFS I had to wean myself off of 7 different prescriptions and then find the cause of my illness (as prescriptions only try to treat the symptoms) before I was able to go back to work.

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My opinion is that when it comes to vaccines they conveniently do not find a link, or chalk it up to allergies. I have personal experience with that.

 

Yes well, I am sure that when we have more information they will have miraculously found that there is no conclusive evidence that the vaccine was the cause.

 

Just because you'd like there to be a link doesnt mean one exists.

 

Im sure its all a conspiracy to kill off as many teen girls (and now boys as well!) as possible worldwide./sarcasm

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Just because you'd like there to be a link doesnt mean one exists.
It is not that. I just feel like many, many reactions are under-reported. When my son had a severe reaction, they chalked it up to a yeast allergy. Then he had the same reaction to the next vaccine he was given, which contained no yeast. He had the same reaction to every vaccine. All that was reported was his reaction due to yeast allergy. My daughter had a similar reaction as my son but not as severe and was never reported. I had a severe reaction to Tetnus and it was never reported. Turns out my mom was "allergic" to the Tetnus vaccine as well.

 

I really think that your tone was a little over the top. I won't quote you in case you feel the need to edit.

 

You may not know that I did my research on vaccines (I thought I did) and as a family we decided to go ahead with them. It was after my son developed pneumonia and had to be monitored for his breathing after every vaccine (after trying different vaccines, spacing them out, not combining, etc.) that I did more research and came to not trust them.

 

I feel that most people involved in under reporting are not doing it with bad intentions. I was involved as well! I also feel that they don't necessarily think the vaccine is going to kill teen girls. Maybe they know that the vaccine has side effects. Maybe they don't know the far reaching capability of those side effects. Maybe they feel that having the immunity to most types of cervical cancer is a good trade off.

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It is not that. I just feel like many, many reactions are under-reported. When my son had a severe reaction, they chalked it up to a yeast allergy. Then he had the same reaction to the next vaccine he was given, which contained no yeast. He had the same reaction to every vaccine. All that was reported was his reaction due to yeast allergy. My daughter had a similar reaction as my son but not as severe and was never reported. I had a severe reaction to Tetnus and it was never reported. Turns out my mom was "allergic" to the Tetnus vaccine as well.

 

I really think that your tone was a little over the top. I won't quote you in case you feel the need to edit.

 

I really feel like there is a difference between paranoia and educated consumerism. I think many of the reponses I have seen online to this vax are well seated in the first category.

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You must have pot stirrer permanently engraved somewhere on your body. My favorite thing to do is ignore you.:glare:

 

Ok. no problem.

 

But the facts are we have no idea if this death has a darned thing to do with the HPV vax. Whether you ignore me or not that article is baseless assumption which only inspires hysteria and over-reaction.

 

What if I wrote a story about a girl who died immediately after reeiving that vaccine and left out the pertinent fact that she was hit by a bus? What sort of journalism would that be?

 

This is the same thing. The girl likely died of something entirely unrelated like accute infection.

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Ok. no problem.

 

But the facts are we have no idea if this death has a darned thing to do with the HPV vax. Whether you ignore me or not that article is baseless assumption which only inspires hysteria and over-reaction.

 

What if I wrote a story about a girl who died immediately after reeiving that vaccine and left out the pertinent fact that she was hit by a bus? What sort of journalism would that be?

 

This is the same thing. The girl likely died of something entirely unrelated like accute infection.

 

Really, I am not just basing it on this one thread. It seems you kinda "come out swining" on lots of issues. Perhaps, if your intent was not to offend, you could have worded your response less aggressively.

 

There have been several deaths from this vaccine that are documented.

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With each vaccine, you really have to decide whether the potential benefits outweigh the potential risks. ABC news has a good story here. The chance of death with the vaccine is rare, but so is the chance of death from HPV.

 

The manufacturer said they were happy with the latest study that came out because if proved that the incidence of adverse reactions was about the same as other vaccinations. Even they are not claiming that it is 100% safe, just that it is statistically as safe as other vaccinations.

 

I think it is safe to say that it is entirely possible that this girl's death is related to the vaccine. It would still be a rare incident, but how much less rare than a healthy 14 yo dying. That's what the news is for, finding the rare incidents. ;)

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As we have those vaccine problem, what would you do if you live in a state where getting it is required for all girls?

 

 

Massachusetts is leaning very heavily towards this right now. Making it a "law". What would I do? Keep my child locked away if I had to. And good thing my DH owns guns.

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I'm not here to argue. Just FYI LOL

 

I will NOT be giving this vaccine to any of my children, no way no how. For my family the risks outweigh the benefits. I can only do what I feel is right for my family. IMO vaccinations are to be taken very seriously.. I dont vaccinate my children simply because someone tells me to. Signing the paper for vaccinations made me sick to my stomach. Have you read the adverse reactions? No thanks... we're delaying vaccinations at this time.

I am fortunate enough to have a Doc who believes in delayed and selective vaccination himself. We have discussed what route we will take IF the time comes where I want to vaccinate my two youngest children. I am so blessed to have a doctor like him around.

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Anyone see this yet? What a terrible thing to happen....

 

British Schoolgirl Dies After VaccinationAOL / Wire Services

posted: 12 HOURS 18 MINUTES

 

(Sept. 28) - A 14-year-old British schoolgirl died Monday, shortly after receiving a cervical cancer vaccination. Local health authorities launched an "urgent" investigation but say a link between the death and the drug has not been established.

 

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Before jumping to conclusions about this sad event.

 

Laura

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It seems lately....many of the 'new' drugs are being recalled or you see plenty of 'who can I sue' ads on TV for them.

 

But really....you read some of those side effects of those drugs....and you have to wonder if the side effects are worse than the disease.

 

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I completely agree with this. My 14 year old dd has been suffering with severe insomnia. She also has depression now from her extreme lack of sleep. She has been on several different sleep meds. Last time the sleep specialist wanted her to try yet another drug. I told her at this point that I wasn't comfortable with the side effects they had all given my dd. The doctor pretty much said that my daughter just needed to learn to live with the side effects. Of course I want my dd to be able to sleep but learning to live with hallucinations, dizziness (to the point of losing balance) and headaches isn't something that I'm willing to have for my dd.

 

Last week dd had a bad reaction from the anti-depressant she was on. It caused her to start shaking all over, her heart to race and a few other symptoms. I had to take her to urgent care to make sure that nothing more serious was going on. Now her doctor wants her to try another anti-depressant. I asked her if there was a good chance that she would have the same reaction and she said probably. Why would I want to take that chance? Last week was very scary for both my daughter and myself.

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Massachusetts is leaning very heavily towards this right now. Making it a "law".

 

Just curious, will they provide any sort of grounds for exemption (ie, previous reactions to immunizations, known allergies, religious beliefs)?

 

Just me, but if not I'd be thinking of moving... to TEXAS!

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I have not read all the responses to this thread, but I would like to add my 2 cents.

 

In my humble opinion, there are two major problems with vaccines.

 

1) They are given as "one size fits all" preventative treatment. For most, this works out quite well. However, just as some prescription medications may have an adverse affect on someone, the same thing can, and sometimes does, occur where vaccines are given. For example, many, many years ago, in order to obtain a marriage license in IL, a woman had to be screened for immunity to Rubella and had to receive the vaccine if there was no immunity before the license would be issued. I showed no immunity and received the vaccine. I broke out in a horrible, measles-like rash on my legs and torso which lasted for weeks right as I was getting married. It was a reaction to the vaccine. Nothing could be done at that time . . . I was not "sick" but I had to simply wait for the rash to go away. Until that time I never realized vaccines could do something like that (this was back in 1987).

 

2) Often, several vaccines are given at one time. If there is a reaction to one of the vaccines it is virtually impossible to determine which single vaccine could be the cause. Or the reaction could be due to the combination of the vaccines. This, in my opinion, is simply bad medicine.

 

I believe vaccines have saved lives and have contributed to the overall health of the general population. But sanitary conditions and better nutrition have also helped in this. I do more studies were conducted on vaccines and I wish they were administered one at a time instead of in combination with others.

 

People really do react to, and unfortunately, sometimes die from, vaccines. I don't know if that is what happened in the case of this young girl, but it certainly needs to be considered and investigated. My heart goes out to the family.

 

Adrianne in IL

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It seems lately....many of the 'new' drugs are being recalled or you see plenty of 'who can I sue' ads on TV for them.

 

But really....you read some of those side effects of those drugs....and you have to wonder if the side effects are worse than the disease.

 

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LOL! I know. One ad was to help with weight loss for the morbidly obese. Side effects including uncontrollable bowel movements. Uh, no thanks. Another was for cigarette smokingr. Among a bunch of other unpleasant side effects, they listed suicide. Ouch.

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Agreed. I do not know her at all, as I'm fairly new to the board, but I have to admit, I was a little put off.

 

Calandalsmom, not trying to gang up on you, but maybe you didn't realize you sound so... angry.

 

I think tone is hard to read on a message board. I think the article should make people angry though bc bad journalism is the height of irresponsibility.

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Yes, it is difficult to tell if someone is being rude or not.

 

Journalists always try to stir things up, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, but it may not be. I just don't see why we need quite so many immuniations, and I do know there are risks and would prefer to avoid the unneccessary ones. No one should have to risk dying to get an immunization.

 

I do let my kids get them, but I do not want anymore added to the list.

 

I can think of quite a few Id like to see added. AIDS would be at the top of my list and more cancer vaccines would be jockeying for the first spot.

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Just because you'd like there to be a link doesnt mean one exists.

 

Im sure its all a conspiracy to kill off as many teen girls (and now boys as well!) as possible worldwide./sarcasm

 

I guess I'm really not seeing anyone accusing the drug companies of trying to kill off as many teen girls and boys as possible worldwide. I think there is more of a concern for the trustworthiness of the drugs themselves.

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LOL! I know. One ad was to help with weight loss for the morbidly obese. Side effects including uncontrollable bowel movements. Uh, no thanks. Another was for cigarette smokingr. Among a bunch of other unpleasant side effects, they listed suicide. Ouch.

 

LOL! We are always laughing at the quick-paced verbal list of side-effects to these drugs on the commercials. My children make up their own lists of insane side-effects sometimes. Really, the Extenze side-effects (though I change that commercial when the dc are in the room) are the ones that dh and I just laugh the most over.

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I agree! I'm all for "better safe than sorry" anyway. I agree with immunizations, but there are more and more and more, and apparently not all are safe.

 

On our end, this particular vaccine is not one we plan to ever take part in. There are many that I'm on board with, but certainly not all!

 

Every baby I have, I will refuse to let them give them a vaccine-cocktail of 3 or 4 at a time that just "feels" like an overdose to me. We want those vaccines, just not in a one-time mass like that. :( I'm not extremely well-educated on all the vaccines, but I do know that something just doesn't feel right about that.

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LOL! We are always laughing at the quick-paced verbal list of side-effects to these drugs on the commercials. My children make up their own lists of insane side-effects sometimes. Really, the Extenze side-effects (though I change that commercial when the dc are in the room) are the ones that dh and I just laugh the most over.

 

I honestly and seriously find it disturbing that the commercials for anti-depressants have "thoughts of suicide" as a side effect. Seriously. If you're depressed, why on earth would you want medication that will bring you to a place of suicidal thoughts. Very. Very disturbing.

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I honestly and seriously find it disturbing that the commercials for anti-depressants have "thoughts of suicide" as a side effect. Seriously. If you're depressed, why on earth would you want medication that will bring you to a place of suicidal thoughts. Very. Very disturbing.

 

Too true!! I've been through depression, and I didn't need anything further to make me feel worse. It was bad enough as it was.

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Well, that just goes without saying, obviously.

 

On the other hand, lets look at the chicken pox vaccince... my kids got the first one, and already need more. This is a situation where it looks like you need more and more (but they don't know how many as of yet). Then they will probably find out you need them every five years... forever. This is something we all have to worry about now.

 

What if, as an adult, for some reason you can't get it (i.e. no insurance)... it's worse to get chicken pox as an adult than as a child. I bet that person would rather not get the shots in the first place, get the chicken pox as a child, and be done with it.

 

I opted out of the vax with dd, and she got it a few years ago. I'm rather glad she won't have to think about it again.

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I honestly and seriously find it disturbing that the commercials for anti-depressants have "thoughts of suicide" as a side effect. Seriously. If you're depressed, why on earth would you want medication that will bring you to a place of suicidal thoughts. Very. Very disturbing.

 

But people who are depressed are more likely to take antidepressants and also more likely to be suicidal.

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My son went blind in February, after receiving the Menactra vaccine. He immediately fell ill, and was blind the following week. No doctor who saw him will consider the vaccine the cause, hence his reaction was not reported. Not a single doctor will report it.

 

I'm generally very pro-vaccine, but this gave me pause. Maybe all you anti-vaccine homeschool crazies are right! :D (After 8 months of treatment and two hospitalizations, my son is fine, with only minimal vision loss.)

 

My brother, a retired neurosurgeon, had no trouble seeing the link.

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My son went blind in February, after receiving the Menactra vaccine. He immediately fell ill, and was blind the following week. No doctor who saw him will consider the vaccine the cause, hence his reaction was not reported. Not a single doctor will report it.

 

I'm generally very pro-vaccine, but this gave me pause. Maybe all you anti-vaccine homeschool crazies are right! :D (After 8 months of treatment and two hospitalizations, my son is fine, with only minimal vision loss.)

 

My brother, a retired neurosurgeon, had no trouble seeing the link.

 

Did you make a VAERS report? http://vaers.hhs.gov/vaers.htm

 

(I'm sorry about your sonAnd glad that he is doing better)

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My son went blind in February, after receiving the Menactra vaccine. He immediately fell ill, and was blind the following week. No doctor who saw him will consider the vaccine the cause, hence his reaction was not reported. Not a single doctor will report it.

 

I'm generally very pro-vaccine, but this gave me pause. Maybe all you anti-vaccine homeschool crazies are right! :D (After 8 months of treatment and two hospitalizations, my son is fine, with only minimal vision loss.)

 

My brother, a retired neurosurgeon, had no trouble seeing the link.

Thank you so much for sharing your story. That had to be so scary.
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I don't know how that article is supposed to be useful in any way.

 

A) As has been pointed out it's not known whether this is related to the vaccine or not. Coincidence happens, corelation is not causation and all that jazz.

 

B) If the vaccine did cause her death the information is still rather useless without being in the context of data. Is this a one-in-a-billion chance or one-in-a-thousand? Is that chance greater or lesser then the chance of dying from the disease it's meant to prevent?

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I read this. I do not like these new vaccines AT ALL. My girls will not get this vaccine, ever.

 

Very sad.

 

I'm interested in this attitude. Why would you not give your girls a vaccine that will protect them from cancer?

 

A young girl died after the vaccine in Britain. Another one was run over by a bus the same day she had the vaccine. Do you think they were connected?

 

There is a huge formal body of knowledge that shows no harmful effects from the vaccine. There are no documented deaths or illnesses from this vaccine.

 

I'm wondering how many people are actually going to deny their girls this vaccine on "moral" grounds.

 

Just curious.

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I understand your thinking... there are a lot! The handouts they give you are scary too! Something doesn't feel right to me, either, but if we all stop getting them, those diseases will come back, and a lot more people will die. I just say a prayer, and sign for the immunizations. :)

 

We do still get them. I may have made it sound like we don't. I just don't let them give them in that cocktail form. We pace it out. I used to be against a lot of immunizations. I've changed my mind on that, but I do like to pace them out more in that first year and not do the all-at-once thing anymore.

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Well, that just goes without saying, obviously.

 

On the other hand, lets look at the chicken pox vaccine... my kids got the first one, and already need more. This is a situation where it looks like you need more and more (but they don't know how many as of yet). Then they will probably find out you need them every five years... forever. This is something we all have to worry about now.

 

What if, as an adult, for some reason you can't get it (i.e. no insurance)... it's worse to get chicken pox as an adult than as a child. I bet that person would rather not get the shots in the first place, get the chicken pox as a child, and be done with it.

 

The vax for chicken pox has been used in Japan for more than 20 years successfully. The need for a booster was not unexpected.

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I'm tempted to not get the boosters, but then I don't know when they would actually get the chicken pox... looks like we just have to continue. :confused:

 

I've wondered about this same thing with my dd. I would do some things differently if I had it to do over again, but what's done is done, and she's been fully vaccinated. Now I don't know whether to give her the chicken pox booster or let her just get chicken pox. But it's already made the rounds through our friends and she didn't get it (still under the protection of the vaccine at the time). So I don't know when/how she'd ever be exposed again. So I guess she's stuck getting booster shots every 5 years for the rest of her life?? Great move, Mom. A+ for thinking that one through!

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I'm interested in this attitude. Why would you not give your girls a vaccine that will protect them from cancer?

 

 

I only have a boy, but I wouldn't let him have it nor any girl if I had a girl. The risk/benefit thing is just off to me.

 

Moral grounds? Well, I hope my son stays chaste until he marries and his wife has done the same. However, I do realize even if HE never strays SHE could and there ya go.

 

My son is 9 1/2 and he has had every vaccine recommended by mainstream doctoring. He had his last at age 4...and I imagine he is due for a booster of some sort soon. I wish so much I had researched it more before I let that happen. I would not have let him have the chicken pox vaccine for instance. And I will not let him get a tetnus shot either.

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