wathe Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) Anyone going? Both my boys are going as participants (Canadian Contingent). I'm going as IST. I'm both excited about it and dreading it - it's a once in a lifetime amazing opportunity to attend with my kids, but also 40 000 people camping in a field sounds like a nightmare.... UPDATE July 20, 2023. We are leaving for this next week! The kids are super-excited. UPDATE April 25, 2024. As many of you know, this jamboree turned out to be a bit of a shambles. The 25th World Scout Jamboree: Report of the independent Review Panel was published last week. Requires registration to access. Korean Times has published an article summarizing, which is free to access. Key quotes from the report: “...demonstrably high-risk site” “...a clear gap between promises made and expectations set by the Host in the bidding phase, as well as updates received during the planning phase, and the reality of the event that was delivered in 2023.” “...failed to deliver on its responsibility and promises to organize the planning and delivery of a safe and successful event.” “[Organizers]...deliberately misled the World Scout Committee, World Scout Bureau, and National Scout Organizations in its communications on the state of the event’s preparations” "The medical situation was marked by an alarming lack of preparedness" "The medical facilities and resources were severely inadequate..." "The Opening Ceremony lacked effective safety management" "In reviewing the core basic requirements of the 25th World Scout Jamboree in terms of safety, security, safeguarding of young people, medical support, food and dietary requirements, sanitation and hygiene, movement around site, and mitigation of weather impacts, there were significant challenges and deficiencies, as well as a failure to consistently deliver core services – at the standard promised by the Host, and legitimately expected by the key stakeholders – and essential to keep all youth participants and adult volunteers safe." Edited Thursday at 10:16 PM by wathe 7 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocolate-chip chooky Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 That sounds like an amazing opportunity and experience! 40,000 people? Wowsers. What does IST mean? I'm off to South Korea soon too, but there will be no scouts or camping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, chocolate-chip chooky said: That sounds like an amazing opportunity and experience! 40,000 people? Wowsers. What does IST mean? I'm off to South Korea soon too, but there will be no scouts or camping. International Service Team. I'll be doing some sort of job to support the jamboree for part of the time, and enjoying the jamboree for the other part of the time. Most of the jobs are pretty social, so the work is also "play". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 DS really wanted to go, but he ran into a few roadblocks. 1. It conflicts some with National Jamboree and his summer camp (which are back to back with a 12 hour turn around) 2. Logistically, we could have taken him, but it would have required a network of friends there to make me feel comfortable. Which I'm sure they would have been happy to do, and even incorporate him into the local troop temporarily, but National is so much easier for us this year. 3. $$$ I don't even want to know how much we are paying for ds's activities this year. We would have had to take MAC flights to make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, HomeAgain said: DS really wanted to go, but he ran into a few roadblocks. 1. It conflicts some with National Jamboree and his summer camp (which are back to back with a 12 hour turn around) 2. Logistically, we could have taken him, but it would have required a network of friends there to make me feel comfortable. Which I'm sure they would have been happy to do, and even incorporate him into the local troop temporarily, but National is so much easier for us this year. 3. $$$ I don't even want to know how much we are paying for ds's activities this year. We would have had to take MAC flights to make it work. I hear you on a network. My kids are super fortunate that there are others going from their troop, and their Jamboree patrol leader is also from our group - and is someone who I really trust. I don't think I would send them otherwise. I don't know what a MAC flight is? Some sort of funding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, wathe said: I hear you on a network. My kids are super fortunate that there are others going from their troop, and their Jamboree patrol leader is also from our group - and is someone who I really trust. I don't think I would send them otherwise. I don't know what a MAC flight is? Some sort of funding? A MAC flight is a military transport. There are often a handful of seats non-appropriated (Space-A) on each flight and they are able to be given to various people going through a tier. Tier 1 would be active duty, not on orders all the way down to Tier 5(or 6?): retirees and family. It's rare to have space for Tier 5 folks, but not unheard of. If they do the next World Jamboree closer to home, or somewhere in Europe, it might be easier for us to figure. Frankly, I wouldn't mind if it was near Toronto for the next one. 😄 We have a couple of trips we want to take up there and we'd roll them into one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 My kids would have been very disappointed if this one was near Toronto 🙂. Part of the appeal is traveling far..... I think the next one has been confirmed for Poland in 2027. So, Europe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Mouse Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 How exciting! My DS attended the World Jamboree that was held in the US. He had a great time, even if his best memories are hanging out at all the food booths talking to all the scouts from different countries, and playing soccer with a group of scouts who didn’t speak any English. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 We are leaving for this next week! Anyone else going? It would be fun to connect with WTMers while there 🙂 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocolate-chip chooky Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 We've recently returned from South Korea, unrelated to scouts. I just wanted to wish you all a fantastic trip. I hope it's a wonderful experience. Where in Korea will you be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, chocolate-chip chooky said: We've recently returned from South Korea, unrelated to scouts. I just wanted to wish you all a fantastic trip. I hope it's a wonderful experience. Where in Korea will you be? A few days in Seoul and a few days in Jeonju before the jamboree. The Jamboree itself will be in SaeManGeum, near Byeonsanbando National Park. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutTN Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Sounds really cool! Have fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishes Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Have fun!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kareni Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Safe and happy travels, @wathe! I hope that you will all have a wonderful time. Regards, Kareni 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocolate-chip chooky Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 @wathe How's your trip going? I hope you're all having a fantastic time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xahm Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 How is it going for y'all? I've heard it hasn't gone all according to plan, but I hope it's been a good experience and that any negatives are the kind that will make a great story in a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acorn Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I saw the news headlines and thought of you. I hope everyone is healthy, safe and enjoying your trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookbard Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 We have seen a lot of news about the Jamboree lately - I heard that the USA and Britain had to leave the campsite and find hotel accommodation? I hope everyone is ok, sounds like there's intense heat and quite a lot of illness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyoffive Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Tens of thousands of scouts fleeing world jamboree in S. Korea as Tropical Khanun closes in (msn.com) Just saw this. I hope you are ok. Check in when you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 13 hours ago, mommyoffive said: Tens of thousands of scouts fleeing world jamboree in S. Korea as Tropical Khanun closes in (msn.com) Just saw this. I hope you are ok. Check in when you can. Wathe posted here- https://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/728949-who-was-it-that-was-going-to-the-scout-jamboree/?do=findComment&comment=9467224 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted August 8, 2023 Author Share Posted August 8, 2023 Hello all! I am currently sitting in a shadeless field at 37°C, ambient temperature and 75% humidity, awaiting evacuation to Seoul because of the incoming Typhoon. I have a I have a lovely big umbrella, and there is a nice breeze at least. Fun times! 4 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyoffive Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 @wathe OH man I am so sorry it turned out like this. Thanks for checking in. Stay safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I hope you are on your way to somewhere cooler by now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted August 9, 2023 Author Share Posted August 9, 2023 We’ve been relocated to a lovely college dormitory. Beautiful modern air conditioned facility. Our hosts have been exceedingly generous. They provided us with hygiene kits, pillows, blankets, hot meals, the works. We are all so grateful. The Jamboree organizers have arranged a “jamboree on the road “. Will all be bus to various local activities and will still have the opportunity to interact with scouts from around the world. 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acorn Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I’m so glad you shared that. I have been thinking of you since hearing of the site conditions and can’t image a heavy rain there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 How generous. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommyoffive Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Glad it is still going to be a Jamboree! Have fun. I am sure the air conditioning feels amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermom Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Thanks for the update. Glad there is a nice Plan B in motion! Sounds like you'll have a wonderful time. Hope the typhoon is/was not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Have fun. Went to a scouts jamboree in the 80s as the scouts invited the local girl guides to join in for one of the events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wathe Posted Thursday at 10:15 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 10:15 PM Bump for update in first post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted Thursday at 11:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:18 PM Wow that’s not so good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted Thursday at 11:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:21 PM So glad they did an investigative report and published findings to try to hold those responsible accountable. It was not only a disgrace, but it put so many into serious and real danger. Thanks for updating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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