Pen Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-52701524 Hospitals in São Paulo Brazil near collapse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonfirmath Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Pen said: https://www.france24.com/en/20200518-first-coronavirus-case-detected-in-ecuador-amazon-tribe I have two children in those forests I write to. We'd so hoped they'd escaped and be free 😞 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Daily new cases for US for yesterday was below 20,000 again. Hoping this trend will continue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/18/asia/china-world-health-assembly-investigation-intl-hnk/index.html according to CNN Russia has joined the list of countries calling for an independent inquiry into the origin of the virus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Widespread disinfectant spraying is ineffective and likely harmful according to WHO https://amp.france24.com/en/20200516-spraying-disinfectants-can-be-harmful-says-who?__twitter_impression=true 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyP Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said: Widespread disinfectant spraying is ineffective and likely harmful according to WHO https://amp.france24.com/en/20200516-spraying-disinfectants-can-be-harmful-says-who?__twitter_impression=true I'm glad to see this. I couldn't tell if it was all for show or if some people actually thought that spraying the outside of buildings and streets would stop the spread. 🙄 Regardless I hope this brings the practice to an end or at least keeps it from happening in my area... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoraBora Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 21 hours ago, Where's Toto? said: I think the percentage of positives as a percentage of total tests is probably the most useful number to see if there's actually an increase or not. But reporting an increase in positive tests doesn't seem like an artificial inflation. Those people were still positive even if we didn't know it. That's what's been driving me crazy all along - reports of positive tests but no information on what that's likely to mean to the population at large - how many people are actually getting tested so how many more are likely to be positive. All along the practical information that we can actually get from the current test reporting has been crap. You're right. It isn't an artificial inflation -- it's just a number. I'm right there with you. It drives me up the wall that news agencies run headlines and stories about a state's decision to begin opening up as the cause of record increases in positive cases, without bothering to mention a significant increase in the number of tests administered. It's alarmist and unhelpful. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said: Daily new cases for US for yesterday was below 20,000 again. Hoping this trend will continue. Me too. Though having it under 20,000 be good news is kind of depressing. Not all that long ago both USA and Australia were officially at 19. Total. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, DoraBora said: You're right. It isn't an artificial inflation -- it's just a number. I'm right there with you. It drives me up the wall that news agencies run headlines and stories about a state's decision to begin opening up as the cause of record increases in positive cases, without bothering to mention a significant increase in the number of tests administered. It's alarmist and unhelpful. I guess no data from states without adequate testing is going to demonstrate whether lifting lockdowns causes spikes or not because you don’t have a reference point. Italy are lifting restrictions a lot now so I guess we will observe the impact there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, DoraBora said: You're right. It isn't an artificial inflation -- it's just a number. I'm right there with you. It drives me up the wall that news agencies run headlines and stories about a state's decision to begin opening up as the cause of record increases in positive cases, without bothering to mention a significant increase in the number of tests administered. It's alarmist and unhelpful. The numbers that don't lie are hospitalizations. They have a lag, unfortunately, but number of hospitalizations should be fairly consistent related to the true number of cases regardless of how many people get tested, can't be double-counted. And it really is that number we have to keep under control so as not to overwhelm the medical system. The problem with the 2-3 week lag is that once you know there's a problem, it's a bit late. So testing and contact tracing are still really important in keeping this under control. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-releases-first-human-trial-results-2020-5/amp?__twitter_impression=true Human trials for a vaccine from Moderna have shown it can generate an immune response 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmseB Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I feel like this can't be good. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/16/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-moving-leaving.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoraBora Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Matryoshka said: The numbers that don't lie are hospitalizations. They have a lag, unfortunately, but number of hospitalizations should be fairly consistent related to the true number of cases regardless of how many people get tested, can't be double-counted. And it really is that number we have to keep under control so as not to overwhelm the medical system. The problem with the 2-3 week lag is that once you know there's a problem, it's a bit late. So testing and contact tracing are still really important in keeping this under control. That's true. Here in Texas, the governor is watching both the positive test rates and hospitalizations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, EmseB said: I feel like this can't be good. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/16/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-moving-leaving.html My mother’s rural area had cases start from someone who arrived from NYC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCB Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, EmseB said: I feel like this can't be good. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/16/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-moving-leaving.html I wish I could see it but can't. Could someone sum it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmseB Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, TCB said: I wish I could see it but can't. Could someone sum it up? It's a map of where a bunch of NYers moved to at the onset of the pandemic. "In March, the United States Post Office received 56,000 mail-forwarding requests from New York City, more than double the monthly average. In April, the number of requests went up to 81,000, twice the number from a year earlier. Sixty percent of those new requests were for destinations outside the city." In April the chart shows over 80,000 mail forward request. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmseB Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, TCB said: DP Edited May 18, 2020 by EmseB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Vitamin D https://www.nature.com/articles/s41430-020-0661-0 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOrchidSong Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) On 5/17/2020 at 4:45 PM, Ausmumof3 said: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.06199.pdf link to the paper Thank you for sharing this. Australia is leading an independent probe into the origin of this novel coronavirus, backed by 116 countries. This is absolutely essential if we want to understand this virus more. Edited May 19, 2020 by JadeOrchidSong 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/covid-fatigue-one-of-worst-symptons-patients-say/12252602 post virus fatigue or Covid fatigue Sydney’s St Vincent hospital is hoping to start a year long study on the more long term impacts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-05-19/coronavirus-doctor-ny-says-covid-like-multiple-diseases/12242026 covid 19 is like 3 different diseases. The mild respiratory version, the severe disease with cytokine storm and blood clotting and most likely the Paediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome. “Immune attack may explain both conditions In this sense, paediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome seems similar to severe COVID-19, in that it is the result of a disordered immune response, triggered by the virus. But the timing and nature of the immune response is different in the two conditions (with different outcomes in terms of symptoms). In severe COVID-19, which occurs in about 10 per cent of patients, the immune over-activation usually occurs eight to 10 days after symptoms begin. In the children's syndrome, it seems the immune over-activation occurs either late in the course of infection, or after the virus has been cleared from the body. "These kids have escaped the symptoms of the acute infection but they may not have escaped the post-infectious reaction to the virus." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 https://covidtracking.com/documents/CDC Data Report - The COVID Tracking Project.pdf the Covid tracking project report trying to reconcile differences between cdc and state data and different data collection methods between states etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyD Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) Interesting article about the origins of coronavirus in Israel. Genomic sequencing suggests that (1) the US was by far the main source of infections despite accounting for only 30% of arrivals during the crisis, and (2) a small number of superspreaders were responsible for most infections. Edited May 19, 2020 by JennyD 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said: https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/covid-fatigue-one-of-worst-symptons-patients-say/12252602 17 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said: https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-05-19/coronavirus-doctor-ny-says-covid-like-multiple-diseases/12242026 I really wish all the "just let me catch it and get it over with" folks would read articles like this and really understand what this disease can do. So many people seem to think as long as they're not elderly or immunocompromised, they'll just get a bad cold and then they can go back to life as usual, because "quality of life" is more important than avoiding the disease. But how much will their "quality of life" change if they lose a child or spouse? Or if they end up with permanent heart or lung damage, or they lose a limb to blood clots, or they're paralyzed by a stroke? And even if they and all their loved ones escape death or permanent damage, and they're not left with massive medical debt from weeks in the hospital, even a "mild" case can make people really really sick, and it can last for months. 7 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/18/lockdown-protests-spread-coronavirus-cellphone-data?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true Phone data indicates people travelled long distance for lockdown protests meaning they will possibly be spread events. I’m not sure about the ethics of using data like this but seems like the results may be concerning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyP Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said: https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-05-19/coronavirus-doctor-ny-says-covid-like-multiple-diseases/12242026 covid 19 is like 3 different diseases. The mild respiratory version, the severe disease with cytokine storm and blood clotting and most likely the Paediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome. “Immune attack may explain both conditions In this sense, paediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome seems similar to severe COVID-19, in that it is the result of a disordered immune response, triggered by the virus. Ugh, this virus just sucks. I am glad to see that they are learning more about how it is attacking people. Hopefully that leads to better treatments. The pediatric aspect is troubling (assuming it is Covid related) these kids barely showed symptoms so it isn't like a different treatment would help. 🙁 I feel slightly better reading that it sounds extremely rare. Still, very troubling tho. From the link: The condition is much rare than severe COVID, and it is thought that children who develop it may have unusual genetic vulnerabilities. "Only a very small number of kids who get COVID exposure will get this," Dr Giwani says. "We do not have a good handle on what the number is but it's pretty clear it is extremely rare." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadie Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Interesting article about problems with COVID data reporting in Georgia, including familiar issues like lag time and underresourced public health departments, along with such things as a bar graph where dates were not listed chronologically, but shuffled to show a downward trend in cases. “I have a hard time understanding how this happens without it being deliberate,” said State Rep. Jasmine Clark, D-Lilburn, who received her doctorate in microbiology and molecular genetics at Emory University. “Literally nowhere ever in any type of statistics would that be acceptable.” https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/just-cuckoo-state-latest-data-mishap-causes-critics-cry-foul/182PpUvUX9XEF8vO11NVGO/ 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) “(CNN)The Navajo Nation has surpassed New York and New Jersey for the highest per-capita coronavirus infection rate in the US ... The Navajo Nation, which spans parts of Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, reported a population of 173,667 on the 2010 census. As a result, with 4,002 cases, the Native American territory has 2,304.41 cases of Covid-19 per 100,000 people. By contrast, New York state now has a rate of 1,806 cases per 100,000 ...” Edited May 19, 2020 by Pen 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 hours ago, TracyP said: Ugh, this virus just sucks. I am glad to see that they are learning more about how it is attacking people. Hopefully that leads to better treatments. The pediatric aspect is troubling (assuming it is Covid related) these kids barely showed symptoms so it isn't like a different treatment would help. 🙁 I feel slightly better reading that it sounds extremely rare. Still, very troubling tho. From the link: The condition is much rare than severe COVID, and it is thought that children who develop it may have unusual genetic vulnerabilities. "Only a very small number of kids who get COVID exposure will get this," Dr Giwani says. "We do not have a good handle on what the number is but it's pretty clear it is extremely rare." If it relates to a kind of autoimmune or immune system over reaction I wonder if it’s likely to affect the small percentage of kids who also get impacted negatively by vaccines or something. I really hope they can figure out what’s going on and if it even is covid related (seems likely given the prevalence in covid areas but then maybe a bit of confirmation bias going on too) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73349 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 hours ago, TracyP said: "Only a very small number of kids who get COVID exposure will get this," Dr Giwani says. Slight correction, with due respect to the doctor: Only a very small percentage. The number will increase with cases, which will increase with exposure, so it is not going to remain small unless exposure is limited accordingly. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73349 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said: If it relates to a kind of autoimmune or immune system over reaction I wonder if it’s likely to affect the small percentage of kids who also get impacted negatively by vaccines or something. I really hope they can figure out what’s going on and if it even is covid related (seems likely given the prevalence in covid areas but then maybe a bit of confirmation bias going on too) Oh, that would be terrible, if the same kids would be harmed whether they get the virus or a vaccine against it. So far, doctors have not mentioned any correlation with previous vaccine reaction or autoimmune disorder (and there's no known association of the two). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/05/iu/releases/18-research-shows-electroceutical-fabric-eliminates-coronaviruses-on-contact.html Possibly a face mask material that will kill the virus? Don’t know if there is anything to it but it’s where my dc go to school so it was in my inbox. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Joker said: https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/05/iu/releases/18-research-shows-electroceutical-fabric-eliminates-coronaviruses-on-contact.html Possibly a face mask material that will kill the virus? Don’t know if there is anything to it but it’s where my dc go to school so it was in my inbox. Interesting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73349 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) [news] Edited October 2, 2020 by Carolina Wren 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 In my state, Oregon, the rate in American Indian / Native American groups isn’t horrible (~ 60 per 100,000 for local area tribes, higher, maybe double, if including Alaskan and Pacific Islanders) as in Navajo nation, but it is higher than the state average. Part of that could be that over half the American Indian population of Oregon seems actually to be in the greater Portland area, which has the highest rates overall in state for all races. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73349 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Seven schools in northern France have had to close again because of new outbreaks--and only 30% of kids went back to school, according to CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-france-close-some-reopened-schools-covid-cases-flare-up-today-2020-05-18/ 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) CDC report released today on the outbreak at a church in Arkansas in March: 35 infected church members, who then spread it to 26 additional people in the community, with 4 deaths. Among 92 attendees at a rural Arkansas church during March 6–11, 35 (38%) developed laboratory-confirmed COVID-19, and three persons died. Highest attack rates were in persons aged 19–64 years (59%) and ≥65 years (50%). An additional 26 cases linked to the church occurred in the community, including one death. Edited May 19, 2020 by Corraleno 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) https://www.wehi.edu.au/news/covid19-prevention-trial-opens-high-risk-healthcare-workers a study is starting in Australia testing whether hydroxychloroquine works preventatively for health care workers. The study will run for four months and is called CovidShield. It’s opt in based and half will be given a placebo. “Professor Pellegrini said the hydroxychloroquine to be used in the study had been supplied by the manufacturer for that purpose and therefore would not impact patients who routinely required the drug for other conditions. “COVID SHIELD will not be diverting hydroxychloroquine for routine use from pharmacies, hospitals, or other patient supply chains,” he said.” Edited May 19, 2020 by Ausmumof3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 hours ago, whitehawk said: Two articles for you: The USDA has an emergency food benefits program to help parents feed their kids who would normally have gotten breakfast and lunch at school--but only in 31 states. (To my dismay, Mississippi is not listed among them.) Accusations that Florida, like Georgia, is messing with numbers to make reopening look better: https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/05/18/censorship-covid-19-data-researcher-removed-florida-moves-re-open-state/5212398002/ Wow I really want to hope those are just the words of a disgruntled employee but it’s hard to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Corraleno said: CDC report released today on the outbreak at a church in Arkansas in March: 35 infected church members, who then spread it to 26 additional people in the community, with 4 deaths. Among 92 attendees at a rural Arkansas church during March 6–11, 35 (38%) developed laboratory-confirmed COVID-19, and three persons died. Highest attack rates were in persons aged 19–64 years (59%) and ≥65 years (50%). An additional 26 cases linked to the church occurred in the community, including one death. Why is the one “category” 19-64 years, though? That doesn’t make sense to me as a “category”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2020/05/19/nieuwe-onderzoeksresultaten-covid-19-bij-nertsenbedrijven I can’t read the language but supposedly this is a case of animal to human transmission in the mink farm 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2020/05/19/nieuwe-onderzoeksresultaten-covid-19-bij-nertsenbedrijven I can’t read the language but supposedly this is a case of animal to human transmission in the mink farm That’s what Google Translate seems to indicate. 😟 I guess we will probably hear more soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/coronavirus-mirabai-covid19-three-positive-tests-fatigue/12260660 one Australian woman who tested negative began feeling ill and tested positive again has just returned a third positive test. She’s been sick for over two months. apparently In Aus 95 pc of people have recovered within 60 so it’s not clear what’s happening to make this go on for longer for some people. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Also referenced in the article but worth a separate mention there is a COVID19 support group online here https://www.wearebodypolitic.com/covid19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I have been thinking about various issues with public transport and crowding and social distancing and I’m wondering if a long term solution to this is to move toward more of a two shift scenario. So for an eight hour day we could have a 6am to 2pm cohort and a 2pm till 10pm cohort. Even schools could potentially run morning and afternoon shifts although maybe with later start and earlier finish times. It would also mean peoples free time is distributed more evenly meaning it may work better for cafes shops and even gyms to run with lower staff levels and smaller numbers of customers at one time. is that kind of thinking realistic? Or is it really too pie in the sky to think it could work? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoeless Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Ausmumof3 said: I have been thinking about various issues with public transport and crowding and social distancing and I’m wondering if a long term solution to this is to move toward more of a two shift scenario. So for an eight hour day we could have a 6am to 2pm cohort and a 2pm till 10pm cohort. Even schools could potentially run morning and afternoon shifts although maybe with later start and earlier finish times. It would also mean peoples free time is distributed more evenly meaning it may work better for cafes shops and even gyms to run with lower staff levels and smaller numbers of customers at one time. is that kind of thinking realistic? Or is it really too pie in the sky to think it could work? It probably depends on the industry. A lot of tech jobs are already shift work. But, a lot of tech jobs can also work remotely. My junior high had split school shifts due to overcrowding. It sucked. It's a really, really long day for teachers and a really, really short day for the students. Our class sessions were 37.5 minutes long, (Yes, they counted that half minute), in order to accommodate both shifts of kids AND keep the teachers from working 14+ hour days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, MissLemon said: It probably depends on the industry. A lot of tech jobs are already shift work. But, a lot of tech jobs can also work remotely. My junior high had split school shifts due to overcrowding. It sucked. It's a really, really long day for teachers and a really, really short day for the students. Our class sessions were 37.5 minutes long, (Yes, they counted that half minute), in order to accommodate both shifts of kids AND keep the teachers from working 14+ hour days. Yeah I can see how that would be exhausting. I was thinking of two shifts of teachers but of course you can’t just double your workforce overnight so most likely not feasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 70 cases of Covid at schools in France days after reopening. 7 schools in north France have now been closed. https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/world/europe/2020/05/18/70-cases-of-covid-19-at-french-schools-days-after-re-opening.html?fbclid=IwAR3gj6MZmoOb9nEfWMtPC3L5mscPUGKzbNc_aua1IUlsoIbw9gQlsggjTcE&__twitter_impression=true 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyD Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Small, preliminary but reassuring study about the spread of the virus (or lack thereof) via surfaces. (I will x-post to the scientific research thread and will update whenever the second set of results is released.) 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Worldwide passed 5,000,000 cases according to the worldometer site 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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