swellmomma Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Try going to the Timeline page, then clicking the arrow next to the Reviews section. If that still doesn't work, maybe it's a phone vs computer issue? The name of the page is just "Breckinridge County Sheriff Department." Their page seems to be gone. Even just looking up the page does not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Their page seems to be gone. Even just looking up the page does not work. It's not just me, then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFaerie Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Their page seems to be gone. Even just looking up the page does not work. I was able to pull it up just now without any problem. Weird. Linking again to see if that helps (no idea why it would, but there ya go). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeenagerMom Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So, is anyone going to let Al know that he has a fan club over here? :D Will do if someone hasn't already. :laugh: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So, is anyone going to let Al know that he has a fan club over here? :D Honestly, I wouldn't want to do anything to attract any Naugler-related attention to the Hive. Some of the really psycho supporters consider it a sport to dig up personal info on anyone who criticizes the Nauglers, and then harass and bully them. They have been harassing a woman's FB page who recently lost a child, saying horrible things to her because they mistakenly think she's the person who runs the Naugler Report, when in fact she's probably never heard of the Nauglers. They have pulled photos of people's kids off their FB and blog pages and posted really cruel things about the kids being overweight or disabled or whatever. Even if all that happened was the crazies made accounts here to "refute" the criticism, it would just derail the thread and get it locked. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Their page seems to be gone. Even just looking up the page does not work. Still works fine for me. All the links posted on this page still go to the right place, and the Sheriff's page is still active and navigable for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 It's working for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinE Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 NM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 weird about the sherriff page because I still can't get it to come up all links give me an error message that the link is either broken or page is gone, and just searching by the name I get no results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SproutMamaK Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Honestly, I wouldn't want to do anything to attract any Naugler-related attention to the Hive. Some of the really psycho supporters consider it a sport to dig up personal info on anyone who criticizes the Nauglers, and then harass and bully them. They have been harassing a woman's FB page who recently lost a child, saying horrible things to her because they mistakenly think she's the person who runs the Naugler Report, when in fact she's probably never heard of the Nauglers. They have pulled photos of people's kids off their FB and blog pages and posted really cruel things about the kids being overweight or disabled or whatever. Even if all that happened was the crazies made accounts here to "refute" the criticism, it would just derail the thread and get it locked. And these are the people that say others are full of hate and spite when they dare to say outrageous stuff like, "Maybe children shouldn't be sleeping in poop?" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Still works fine for me. All the links posted on this page still go to the right place, and the Sheriff's page is still active and navigable for me. I wonder if it is because I'm not actually signed into facebook? I can see the BLH page just fine without being signed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intothefray Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Honestly, I wouldn't want to do anything to attract any Naugler-related attention to the Hive. Some of the really psycho supporters consider it a sport to dig up personal info on anyone who criticizes the Nauglers, and then harass and bully them. They have been harassing a woman's FB page who recently lost a child, saying horrible things to her because they mistakenly think she's the person who runs the Naugler Report, when in fact she's probably never heard of the Nauglers. They have pulled photos of people's kids off their FB and blog pages and posted really cruel things about the kids being overweight or disabled or whatever. Even if all that happened was the crazies made accounts here to "refute" the criticism, it would just derail the thread and get it locked. I had someone get on my page and criticize my kids and try to tell me I was lying about where I lived when in fact the video was taken at my grandmothers while I was living with her and my kids had just woken up. I checked my FB page to make it even more private than it already was. I was super pissed and felt so violated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Interesting... the Blessed FB page seems to be gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intothefray Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I just saw that and was coming here to comment on it. Weird. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Maybe Nicole finally listened to her lawyer. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 She's been posting public things to her personal page again. I guess she just can't quit us. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Truth page posted that she's been too busy to keep up with BLH but will put it back up tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Truth page posted that she's been too busy to keep up with BLH but will put it back up tomorrow. So she pulled it down so we would all say 'she took down her FB page.' Crap. I fell into that one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Truth page posted that she's been too busy to keep up with BLH but will put it back up tomorrow. Ah. Well, yes, if you have to babysit the page to make sure that non-supportive comments are removed as soon as they are posted I can see how it would take up too much time. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Maybe she took the FB page down to take the time to load all of the promised pictures of the extensive improvements to the homestead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Looks like Nicole set her personal FB page to private as well. She had some pretty crazy, paranoid rants on there earlier today. The wife of the bishop that Joe threatened posted on the Naugler Report (in Posts to Page, her name is Mel). Al posted in there, too — and was informed that he has a fan club, lol. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 She had some pretty crazy, paranoid rants on there earlier today. What did I miss?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I hadn't been able to see anything on her page since she went private a while back. I guess I'd have to be a "friend." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 What have I missed? I saw a post, on one of the myriad of pages, a list of the myriad of pages devoted to this issue. There's at least 12 of them known. They listed a few websites (forums) that have threads on them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 According to the Truth about the Nauglers page Nicole is backing up her Facebook page and it should be back up soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 What did I miss?! Mountains made of molehills, as usual. Yesterday she posted photos of herself and Joe with their youngest and oldest boys as newborns, with an ode to what an amazing husband and father he is. One person commented that she looked fresh and pretty in the first photo, which was obviously a long time ago before all this happened. She apparently took that as a huge insult and insisted that she still looked great and people were just jealous. Then someone on one of the non-supporter pages (that she reads obsessively) asked why anyone would be jealous of them, given that it's Fathers Day and their kids are in foster care. Cue angry, all caps, F-bomb rant about people mocking her looks when she had just given birth, followed by a rambling post about how she has to constantly watch the people who are out to get her, and she can't turn her back for a minute. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mountains made of molehills, as usual. Yesterday she posted photos of herself and Joe with their youngest and oldest boys as newborns, with an ode to what an amazing husband and father he is. One person commented that she looked fresh and pretty in the first photo, which was obviously a long time ago before all this happened. She apparently took that as a huge insult and insisted that she still looked great and people were just jealous. Then someone on one of the non-supporter pages (that she reads obsessively) asked why anyone would be jealous of them, given that it's Fathers Day and their kids are in foster care. Cue angry, all caps, F-bomb rant about people mocking her looks when she had just given birth, followed by a rambling post about how she has to constantly watch the people who are out to get her, and she can't turn her back for a minute. ah, logic. you just can't escape it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mountains made of molehills, as usual. Yesterday she posted photos of herself and Joe with their youngest and oldest boys as newborns, with an ode to what an amazing husband and father he is. One person commented that she looked fresh and pretty in the first photo, which was obviously a long time ago before all this happened. She apparently took that as a huge insult and insisted that she still looked great and people were just jealous. Then someone on one of the non-supporter pages (that she reads obsessively) asked why anyone would be jealous of them, given that it's Fathers Day and their kids are in foster care. Cue angry, all caps, F-bomb rant about people mocking her looks when she had just given birth, followed by a rambling post about how she has to constantly watch the people who are out to get her, and she can't turn her back for a minute. Wow, that really does sound paranoid. She really needs to just walk away if she feels like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 One person commented that she looked fresh and pretty in the first photo, which was obviously a long time ago before all this happened. She apparently took that as a huge insult and insisted that she still looked great and people were just jealous. I have to wonder if she thinks the rest of us all look as fresh as we did on the day our first or second child was born? I mean I don't know about you guys, but I was way fresher and prettier at 29... I'm not saying I look bad and I'm happy with myself but I'd have to be delusional to think I was as gorgeous as I was that day 9 years ago. My partner, he looks like a child in his photos with his (now teen) baby daughter. He's adorable. Sounds like she's really in a bad spot. :( 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 And...it's back up. It's no longer a blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You know, I really am feeling sad for Nicole this morning. Because a person can be crazy and utterly imcompetent and deluded but still love her kids and be devastated by their loss. I am not at all sure that her apparent lack of effort to do what would be needed to get the kids back demonstrates that she really doesn't care; it just demonstrates that she is completely out of touch with reality. Her life, such as it is, is crumbling around her and her mental health problems are preventing her from even seeing the direction she would need to go to start rebuilding it in such a way that she might get the kids back. Not sure about Joe; since he doesn't live out his life online I don't have a clue what is inside his head. I suspect his life is pretty empty, and Nicole would be better off without him and his probable substance abuse, anger and control issues. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You know, I really am feeling sad for Nicole this morning. Because a person can be crazy and utterly imcompetent and deluded but still love her kids and be devastated by their loss. I am not at all sure that her apparent lack of effort to do what would be needed to get the kids back demonstrates that she really doesn't care; it just demonstrates that she is completely out of touch with reality. Her life, such as it is, is crumbling around her and her mental health problems are preventing her from even seeing the direction she would need to go to start rebuilding it in such a way that she might get the kids back. Not sure about Joe; since he doesn't live out his life online I don't have a clue what is inside his head. I suspect his life is pretty empty, and Nicole would be better off without him and his probable substance abuse, anger and control issues. :iagree: I think it demonstrates how mentally ill she is and how desperately she needs mental health help. I'm not holding my breath that she'll get any because of her disconnect with reality and utter paranoia everyone is out to 'get her'. I do think even if she were placed in a locked unit and forced into mental health treatment - she would most likely be completely uncooperative. I also think N would be *much* better off without J. she was in a better place before he became a fixture in her life. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intothefray Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I still don't see the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergath Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You know, I really am feeling sad for Nicole this morning. Because a person can be crazy and utterly imcompetent and deluded but still love her kids and be devastated by their loss. I am not at all sure that her apparent lack of effort to do what would be needed to get the kids back demonstrates that she really doesn't care; it just demonstrates that she is completely out of touch with reality. Her life, such as it is, is crumbling around her and her mental health problems are preventing her from even seeing the direction she would need to go to start rebuilding it in such a way that she might get the kids back. Not sure about Joe; since he doesn't live out his life online I don't have a clue what is inside his head. I suspect his life is pretty empty, and Nicole would be better off without him and his probable substance abuse, anger and control issues. I start to feel sorry for her, but then I remember that everyone who knows them in real life claims they're con artists. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I start to feel sorry for her, but then I remember that everyone who knows them in real life claims they're con artists. Yeah, I would have much more sympathy if they had just fallen on hard times in the last year or two and needed help getting back on their feet. But this is the way they've always lived. They've never been self-supporting, they've been writing bad checks and leaving a trail of evictions and bad debts for almost two decades. Also, her personal FB page shows a very different side of her than what people see on the BLH page and blogs. Her persona on BLH makes her seem mostly lost and delusional, but then when you read her own FB page it's like "F*#@ you, you psychos! You're going to pay for this!" I find it especially hard to drum up much sympathy for someone who not only allowed her husband to physically and sexually abuse a toddler, she stayed with him, had 10 kids with him knowing he was a child abuser, continues to defend him as if he's the most perfect husband and father anyone could ask for, and calls the victim of Joe's abuse a liar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I start to feel sorry for her, but then I remember that everyone who knows them in real life claims they're con artists. I agree. I don't necessarily feel sorry for her but I do think she has mental health issues that prevent her from seeing the reality that she isn't getting her kids back any time soon, if ever. In other words, I do believe she's a con artist and a narcissist. But I also don't think she's making a fully conscience decision to sacrifice her kids in favor of a con. I do think that's the outcome but I think she's mentally messed up enough that she thinks she can do both - con and have her kids. Joe I think is full fledged con man. I'm not sure he's as into the kids and would be fine walking away without them if it means having the 45k and avoiding potential criminal charges. I am slowly changing my view on their motivations as well. I used to think that they, or at least Nicole, was choosing ideology over her kids. Now I think it's more about choosing an ideology that in her mind will garner the most sympathy, attention and support. That's what she's really about - the adoring fans and the money and attention they bring. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottakee Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 As part of foster care counseling, a psych eval, and therapy/meds are all offered but as mentioned above, it is very unlikely they will voluntarily accept the help they need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You know, I really am feeling sad for Nicole this morning. Because a person can be crazy and utterly imcompetent and deluded but still love her kids and be devastated by their loss. I am not at all sure that her apparent lack of effort to do what would be needed to get the kids back demonstrates that she really doesn't care; it just demonstrates that she is completely out of touch with reality. Her life, such as it is, is crumbling around her and her mental health problems are preventing her from even seeing the direction she would need to go to start rebuilding it in such a way that she might get the kids back. Not sure about Joe; since he doesn't live out his life online I don't have a clue what is inside his head. I suspect his life is pretty empty, and Nicole would be better off without him and his probable substance abuse, anger and control issues. I go between feeling sorry for her and not at all sorry for her. She does seem depressed and stressed and she seems like she's cracking under the strain of it all. Mostly I feel sorry for the kids and feel like they would be better off without their parents raising them. :( What kind of example are Nicole and Joe setting? What are these kids going to be like as adults? Nicole seems like she's having a hard time dealing with the criticism. And I understand that. But I think those people are saying something she desperately needs to hear and understand. Part of me feels like they're fighting a losing battle, but at the same time, Nicole shouldn't feel like she only has support out there. However much she dismisses and explains away her critics opinions, at least she's aware that there are people out there who agree that the children need a better life. And speaking up for the kids... is that ever a bad thing? Many of the critics I've seen have actually been helpful and kind, trying to tell them how to get their act together so they can get their kids back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I still don't see the page. Me either. And Nicole's personal page is still private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 It's a completely different page. You can't follow old bookmarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 And...it's back up. It's no longer a blog. That's not a replacement for the BLH blog, though. That page was started a month or so ago (and it looks like it was started by someone other than Nicole). It only had 2 "reviews" on it until the main page went down and then it looks like a couple of other people found that one and commented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 And...it's back up. It's no longer a blog. Nope. It's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimm Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 So it's a completely different page called the same thing? :confused1: Is it this one? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blessed-Little-Homestead/359626134090478?fref=ts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 That's not a replacement for the BLH blog, though. That page was started a month or so ago (and it looks like it was started by someone other than Nicole). It only had 2 "reviews" on it until the main page went down and then it looks like a couple of other people found that one and commented. Hmm. I hadn't noticed that. I wonder if she'll be putting her blog back up then. Truth page said today, but how much of that is truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renai Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 So it's a completely different page called the same thing? :confused1: Is it this one? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blessed-Little-Homestead/359626134090478?fref=ts That's what I had found, but I guess that's not it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hkpiano Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 When I click on that link, at the bottom of the page is this disclaimer: This Page is automatically generated based on what Facebook users are interested in, and not affiliated with or endorsed by anyone associated with the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 It is just be such a bizarre solution for 'the dogs need to eat'. No more bizarre than throwing a tarp over some poles and old crap is a solution to "children need a place to sleep." 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I grew up in the country. I'be never heard of anyone buying rabbits to feed dogs?? Wouldn't dog food be cheaper and more immediate?? Yes, but you are applying sense and logic -- which makes you a toadying slave to the gubmint. Shame on you! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corraleno Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 When I click on that link, at the bottom of the page is this disclaimer: This Page is automatically generated based on what Facebook users are interested in, and not affiliated with or endorsed by anyone associated with the topic. I just saw that message as a pop-up while hovering over the "unofficial page" tab. That's extremely creepy that FB can set up a page using someone's name or business without them even knowing about it. :blink: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 No more bizarre than throwing a tarp over some poles and old crap is a solution to "children need a place to sleep." This is very true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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