astrid Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I have: 1. One intact bi*ch in standing high heat. 2. One just-turned-one-year-old intact male who is quite certain he should be doing SOMETHING, he's just not entirely certain WHAT. 3. One neutered male Pembroke Welsh Corgi who in normal times is the boss of the household (hence his registered name, "Curlingstone's General Tso") and does not put up with any nonsense from the other two. Currently, he is not pleased with the behavior of EITHER dog, and is so preoccupied chastising the bad behavior of each that he's driven nearly mad. Of course, both dogs are being kept completely separate but it matters not. Scent travels. The crying and whining and fawning and parading and strutting and Corgi-snarking is constant and is driving me over the brink!!! Want one? Or three? They're finished champions with obedience titles, great with kids, chickens, crowds, cars, crates, you name it. Free. I almost mean it. :banghead: I need a Mike's. Astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanieZ Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Two Words: Spay. Neuter. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truscifi Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I would happily take the corgi off your hands. ;) ETA - Enjoy your Mike's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 :grouphug: I had my dobie intact when I rescued a 'fixed' chocolate lab. Yeah, she wasn't. And that week went into heat. Hooo it was bad. Even if I had gotten him fixed right away, it'd take the hormones weeks to go down so yes, the strutting, whining, yes, it's hell, and I'll offer you as many Mike's as you need. We got to the oint where we couldn't take him and the vet told us to give him Benedryl-which did *nothing*. That high pitched whine is like nails on a chalkboard. But, I've always wanted a Pembroke Corgi, and I'll gladly take him off your hands! I love little bossypants dogs. Especially ones who snark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingnlearning Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I was going to say prepare yourself for the spay/neuter lectures! :D We had that here last spring with an intact female Blackmouth Cur and a four month old intact male Great Pyrenees. Much angst. Whining all. the. time. Have some earplugs with your Mike's! :bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Two Words: Spay. Neuter. :) You can't spay and neuter show dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remudamom Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Astrid breeds and shows, not everyone needs to "fix". Astrid, quit whining. You don't get to whine until you've done the same thing with horses. Bigger, stronger, way more obnoxious! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danestress Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 talking a certain Leonberger owner down off the cliff:) She's dreading her girl going into heat, btw. Sorry they are making you crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Could you post a pic of your corgi? Pretty please?:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simka2 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Astrid breeds and shows, not everyone needs to "fix". Astrid, quit whining. You don't get to whine until you've done the same thing with horses. Bigger, stronger, way more obnoxious! 8) This was what I was going to say!!!! I am thoroughly sick of the winking going with dd's mare. She's 21 for heavens sake!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticmom Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Do you have a supportive relative that one of the offending parties could visit until the heat passes? My female visits my mother's house at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffnkids Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Old intact male who is quite certain he should be doing SOMETHING, he's just not entirely certain WHAT. The crying and whining and fawning and parading and strutting is constant and is driving me over the brink!!! Astrid Are you sure you're not talking about my dh?:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 Astrid breeds and shows, not everyone needs to "fix". Astrid, quit whining. You don't get to whine until you've done the same thing with horses. Bigger, stronger, way more obnoxious! 8) :D Thanks for the support, RM! HOrses---Well, I do remember those days. I had a gorgeous black and white Appy mare (Absarokee Sunset daughter) and had a boarder for a short time with his "gelded" QH. Well, pride cut was more like it. NO barn manners either. Charming. Oh man I did NOTHING but repair stall walls forevah! Thank dog the boarder's husband was transferred and they moved across the country. Some poor barn in Iowa has to deal with him now! astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 Could you post a pic of your corgi? Pretty please?:D LOL! Gratuitous Corgi Pics, coming right up! :D Here's Yoshi, our rescue Corgi. I do obedience with him, so he needed a registered name for his ILP number. Dd chose "Curlingstone's General Tso" because "Curlingstone" is our kennel name and Yoshi is bossy like a little general, and spicy too. Plus, he was previously owned by a Chinese guy who was a dealer in one of the Asian rooms at the big casino here in CT, and Yoshi came to us speaking only Mandarin. :001_smile: The Leo in the first three pictures is our 1 year old male. He and Yoshi are best buds. I especially love the picture of them running-- Yoshi looks so happy! astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WistfulRidge Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 LOL! Gratuitous Corgi Pics, coming right up! :DHere's Yoshi, our rescue Corgi. I do obedience with him, so he needed a registered name for his ILP number. Dd chose "Curlingstone's General Tso" because "Curlingstone" is our kennel name and Yoshi is bossy like a little general, and spicy too. Plus, he was previously owned by a Chinese guy who was a dealer in one of the Asian rooms at the big casino here in CT, and Yoshi came to us speaking only Mandarin. :001_smile: The Leo in the first three pictures is our 1 year old male. He and Yoshi are best buds. I especially love the picture of them running-- Yoshi looks so happy! astrid Gorgeous dogs. Yoshi is so adorable and I'm drooling over your Leo. What a breath taking dog. I love Leos:001_wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingersmom Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I'll trade you for a 6 month old chesapeake bay retriever who thinks that 4am is a good time to wake up every morning. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 Two Words: Spay. Neuter. :) Gee, thanks; I had no idea! You mean I shouldn't just let them go at it under the porch? ;) Sorry, we breed (not these two, now) show and train our dogs. The rescue Corgi we show in obedience IS neutered. Believe me, I"m the first person to preach the Gospel of Spay and Neuter. Show dogs must be intact. astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Astrid, Why must show dogs remain intact?? I am just curious. I have a toy pomeranian who was bred to show...but was "imperfect" (she had a teeny white patch on her all black fur) so, we inherited her...fixed of course. We also have a dorky (daschund/yorkie) recue pup, also fixed early. I am just wondering why the intact rule. Faithe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 LOL! Gratuitous Corgi Pics, coming right up! :DHere's Yoshi, our rescue Corgi. I do obedience with him, so he needed a registered name for his ILP number. Dd chose "Curlingstone's General Tso" because "Curlingstone" is our kennel name and Yoshi is bossy like a little general, and spicy too. Plus, he was previously owned by a Chinese guy who was a dealer in one of the Asian rooms at the big casino here in CT, and Yoshi came to us speaking only Mandarin. :001_smile: The Leo in the first three pictures is our 1 year old male. He and Yoshi are best buds. I especially love the picture of them running-- Yoshi looks so happy! astrid That really made me smile--it was my first thought--What a happy dog! My dd thought so, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdalley Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 LOL! Gratuitous Corgi Pics, coming right up! :DHere's Yoshi, our rescue Corgi. I do obedience with him, so he needed a registered name for his ILP number. Dd chose "Curlingstone's General Tso" because "Curlingstone" is our kennel name and Yoshi is bossy like a little general, and spicy too. Plus, he was previously owned by a Chinese guy who was a dealer in one of the Asian rooms at the big casino here in CT, and Yoshi came to us speaking only Mandarin. :001_smile: The Leo in the first three pictures is our 1 year old male. He and Yoshi are best buds. I especially love the picture of them running-- Yoshi looks so happy! astrid Gorgeous dogs! I love Yoshi and I think he's very well named. Now my youngest wants a Corgi of his own. I've always thought he was Corgi like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 Astrid, Why must show dogs remain intact?? I am just curious. I have a toy pomeranian who was bred to show...but was "imperfect" (she had a teeny white patch on her all black fur) so, we inherited her...fixed of course. We also have a dorky (daschund/yorkie) recue pup, also fixed early. I am just wondering why the intact rule. Faithe Funny, I was just going to PM you to tell you how much I love your profile pic! :-) The primary purpose of showing dogs is to judge breeding stock against the Breed Standard for that breed. Every breed has a "Breed Standard" which is the document, written and accepted by the Parent Club, about what the perfect insert-breed-name-here should look and act like. Of course, NO dog is perfect, but the goal of most breeders is to better the breed by breeding a dog and a b*tch which most closely conform to the standard, thus passing on those traits. Also, they want to win in the show ring, and so dogs with impressive show records are often used repeatedly for stud. Since the purpose is to judge breeding stock and help breeders chose animals for their breeding programs, the dogs are intact. This can lead to overuse of studs, and it creates a host of problems, especially in a small breed like ours, but that's a whole 'nuther topic! We breed EXCEEDINGLY sparingly, like RARELY, and ONLY for health and temperament and conformity to the standard. NOW, in our breed, at our Club Shows, we've always had Spay/Neuter classes, and they typically have the HIGHEST entries of any class at our show. That said, there is a lot of research that says that if you can manage it, it's much healthier to keep dogs intact at least past their first birthday. Dogs in Europe are rarely spayed or neutered. Thanks for asking! astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 Gorgeous dogs! I love Yoshi and I think he's very well named. Now my youngest wants a Corgi of his own. I've always thought he was Corgi like. Then by all means, get that kid a Corgi! They really are great dogs. SUPER smart, portable, and very happy. Tuff little guys, and always ready for fun. And we didn't name him; he came with the name Yoshi. We just gave him the registered name. astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudoMom Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I'll take the Corgi while you housebreak Jed (oh, and if you could teach him the off command while you're at it, that'd be great ;)). Or, better yet, you hop on a plane, fly out here to help me train Jed and leave the whining behind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 May I ask how much a good quality (not necessarily show quality) Corgi would cost from a breeder? (Not asking you to name your prices, just an idea of what is "normal.") Just...asking...:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WistfulRidge Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 May I ask how much a good quality (not necessarily show quality) Corgi would cost from a breeder? (Not asking you to name your prices, just an idea of what is "normal.") Just...asking...:D I'm not a Corgi breeder, but for a quality non-show Corgi you're likely looking at something in the $500-$1000 range. You can also see if there is a Corgi rescue near you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ria Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 You know I'd take one of your big dogs in a heartbeat. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Oh--my bad--Astrid, you don't breed Corgis, do you? You breed the big dogs, right? (what are they called again?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted September 18, 2011 Author Share Posted September 18, 2011 Oh--my bad--Astrid, you don't breed Corgis, do you? You breed the big dogs, right? (what are they called again?) No, don't breed Corgis. Yoshi came to us as a rescue, and we'll never be without a Corgi. Our breed is Leonbergers (the big, hairy ones!) astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live2Ride Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Astrid breeds and shows, not everyone needs to "fix". Astrid, quit whining. You don't get to whine until you've done the same thing with horses. Bigger, stronger, way more obnoxious! 8) Oh goodness, a big AMEN to that! :lol: I'm so glad I've got a pasture full of geldings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Funny, I was just going to PM you to tell you how much I love your profile pic! :-) The primary purpose of showing dogs is to judge breeding stock against the Breed Standard for that breed. Every breed has a "Breed Standard" which is the document, written and accepted by the Parent Club, about what the perfect insert-breed-name-here should look and act like. Of course, NO dog is perfect, but the goal of most breeders is to better the breed by breeding a dog and a b*tch which most closely conform to the standard, thus passing on those traits. Also, they want to win in the show ring, and so dogs with impressive show records are often used repeatedly for stud. Since the purpose is to judge breeding stock and help breeders chose animals for their breeding programs, the dogs are intact. This can lead to overuse of studs, and it creates a host of problems, especially in a small breed like ours, but that's a whole 'nuther topic! We breed EXCEEDINGLY sparingly, like RARELY, and ONLY for health and temperament and conformity to the standard. NOW, in our breed, at our Club Shows, we've always had Spay/Neuter classes, and they typically have the HIGHEST entries of any class at our show. That said, there is a lot of research that says that if you can manage it, it's much healthier to keep dogs intact at least past their first birthday. Dogs in Europe are rarely spayed or neutered. Thanks for asking! astrid Thanks so much for explaining all that to me. I guess it all makes sense. My son absolutely LOVES Corgis....and between you and me, he may be getting one soon:D They are cool dogs! Yoshi is beautiful... Faithe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted September 18, 2011 Author Share Posted September 18, 2011 Thanks so much for explaining all that to me. I guess it all makes sense. My son absolutely LOVES Corgis....and between you and me, he may be getting one soon:D They are cool dogs! Yoshi is beautiful... Faithe He's a lucky boy indeed. Corgis are friends for life. I've been in large working breeds my whole life and Yoshi is our first Corgi. I cannot tell you how impressed I am with the breed, and how much enjoyment the little guy brings to our lives. It's an amazing breed--- SO much fun! Be sure to post pictures when the Corgi joins your family! astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 My show dog is a 15 month old Blue dane (dog) he is 38 inches at his shoulder, and apx 165 lbs. He has discovered "females" and oh my heck... He acts like he never saw leash much less pass his CGC with flying colors at only 8 months old. When the ladies are near he "forgets" his manners and mops the floor with me. Have you ever seen what a male dane can do when he decides to "mark" in the house... oh my.. yeah no fun!! Keeping an intact dog (male or female) is the hardest part of showing dogs. It's much easier to have an altered pet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 She's a breeding dog who home stays with us. Picture here. She's due to breed for the third (and last) time this autumn. I can't wait to be done with doggie panties, keeping her away from boys and (this last season) phantom pregnancy. Luckily we don't have any boy dogs at home.... Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Astrid breeds and shows, not everyone needs to "fix". Astrid, quit whining. You don't get to whine until you've done the same thing with horses. Bigger, stronger, way more obnoxious! 8) I haven't done horses, but we have a house cow that is bread every year. I am very scared of bulls. I hate going into the paddock to milk with a bull prancing around. The neighbours must get a laugh seeing me slinking from bush to bush, hoping the bull won't notice me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdalley Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Then by all means, get that kid a Corgi! They really are great dogs. SUPER smart, portable, and very happy. Tuff little guys, and always ready for fun. And we didn't name him; he came with the name Yoshi. We just gave him the registered name. astrid He's getting a Corgi. DH is like this :blink: on the idea of another dog. (We have three others -bassett, lab mix and some hairy small dog he brought home of questionable parentage) My Mom - who has had two Corgis and her current is a rescue - says youngest must have a Corgi. She who must be obeyed always wins. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindyg Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Are you sure you're not talking about my dh?:lol: :lol::lol::lol: Best line of the thread! ETA: I didn't really this was an old thread. Sorry. I had searched something else, and this came up, and I forgot I wasn't looking at recent posts. It was still a funny line. Edited January 5, 2012 by Cindyg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottakee Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 You don't get to whine until you've done the same thing with horses. Bigger, stronger, way more obnoxious! 8) Well, we have never had a stallion here but BOY OH BOY do our geldings think they are still stallions when our floozy mare goes into heat. I have 2 of them that still want to strut their stuff........and she is 25 and he is 31.......WAY too old for this business. We put her on Regumate now full time. Very expensive but keeps her from going into heat and keeps peace in the pasture. She was always fine to ride in heat, she would just drive the others nuts.......and educate the neighbor kids:glare: Do they make something like Regumate for dogs to keep them out of heat? Would that be OK for a show dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plucky Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Oh, no. Nonononono. No way. Thanks for sharing though. I feel better knowing that I don't have it that bad here after all. Everyone in the family is complaining about my new puppy. She's in the terrible two/three stage that kids go through. She's been very naughty, but she means well. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Astrid breeds and shows, not everyone needs to "fix". Astrid, quit whining. You don't get to whine until you've done the same thing with horses. Bigger, stronger, way more obnoxious! 8) Yes, but the horses are a bit quieter, and not in her house! I think Astrid needs more acreage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 I agree! :lol::lol::lol: astrid P.S. As you can see, we all made it through, relatively unscathed, and with most mental capacity intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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