Kim in SouthGa Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 If I worked my hiny off all week on this science fair project (due Friday) for nuthin', I am not going to be happy :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBM Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 My husband, former military (USMA and very knowledgeable about all things electric and magnetic), thinks it's unlikely anything drastic will happen. If it should, it would not bode well for Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivetails Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 What creekland is referencing is called an EMP. What follows is an article about the threat of EMP's but does not specifically address Iran. Posted on Thu, Aug. 27, 2009 Congress created a commission to study it in 2001. The commission concluded in 2004 that it was "one of a small number of threats that has the potential to hold our society seriously at risk and might result in defeat of our military forces," and that a determined adversary could use the weapon against us without "a high level of sophistication." Last year, the commission issued another report saying it could lead to "catastrophic consequences." Earlier this year, another commission found the country had "done little to reduce its vulnerability to attack" with this weapon. And last week, 2012 presidential contenders Mike Huckabee and Newt Gingrich said they would speak at a conference on the possibility of such an attack being held by the group EMPACT America. What's the weapon? An electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, which could be triggered by one or more nuclear warheads exploded more than 100 miles above the United States. Imagine a continent-sized, invisible lightning strike, only more devastating. To those not in a car or plane, it would resemble a power outage at first; nothing electrical would work. But according to the Electromagnetic Pulse Commission, it would fry our electrical grid, as well as most devices with electronic components, including motor vehicles and backup generators. It could be months, maybe even years, before power is restored and vehicles are repaired. Most cities would be out of food and medicine in a few days, thanks to the prevalence of "just-in-time" inventory. Without water pumps, there would be little potable water. Life after such a strike, EMP Commission Chairman William Graham has said, would look "a lot like life in the 1800s." Only worse: The population of the 1800s wasn't concentrated in cities without access to sufficient food or safe water. People then knew how to survive without electricity and modern transportation. We don't. In One Second After, a novel based on EMP Commission findings, military historian William Forstchen imagines life - or what would pass for it - after three EMP strikes affecting the United States. He depicts waves of death, starting with the passengers on commercial airplanes falling out of the sky, explosions in manufacturing facilities, and patients on life support; followed by the chronically sick, such as patients on dialysis machines or lifesaving medications; and then the victims of ruthless violence, disease, and starvation. All told, the novel suggests 90 percent of Americans won't survive a year. In short, doomsday. So is the government taking the threat seriously? Well, the government has taken steps to "harden" senior leadership communications in Washington against an EMP attack. But the Department of Homeland Security doesn't include it on its list of potential threats, and the Defense Department has no plans to spend money on preparation. There are reports, conferences, and voices of concern, but we remain unprepared. The probability and fallout of such an attack are debatable, but the scale of potential destruction demands action now. Our post-Cold War strategy to prevent nuclear attacks has been to stop nuclear proliferation. That is a great strategy until it fails, which has already happened and is continuing to happen in Iran. We need to make our missile defense system fully operational now. What else? Here is something the big spenders from one end of Pennsylvania Avenue to the other will be glad to hear: We need to spend money to study the electromagnetic pulse threat; to help states, localities, and families prepare; and to protect our critical electric infrastructure and transportation networks now. America's enemies know our Achilles' heel and are no doubt planning to exploit it. The government is wise to protect our senior leadership. Now how about the rest of us? Rick Santorum can be contacted at rsantorum@phillynews.com. I had no idea about any of this Iran/11th stuff until seeing this mentioned here on the board yesterday - I don't follow a lot of news... and that would be because this kind of thing completely freaks me out. :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXMomof4 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Iran always makes the apocalyptic sort of statements around Feb. 11 in honor of the revolution. I doubt this year is going to be any big show but I do worry that we are so used to the threats that we stop paying attention. They are developing nuclear weapons. They do have missiles that could reach Israel. They have launched a rocket into space. I doubt the world is going to cease tomorrow, but they are getting a little scarier every day it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Just to be clear: FOX simply reported what the Ayatollah had said. They were not predicting anything. I know we all want to jump all over FOX (I'm conservative, but I'm not much of a fan,) but let's not be hysterical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrellyMama Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Just to be clear: FOX simply reported what the Ayatollah had said. They were not predicting anything. I know we all want to jump all over FOX (I'm conservative, but I'm not much of a fan,) but let's not be hysterical. But I don't get to be hysterical very often. :willy_nilly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle My Bell Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 So are we still here? What time is it in Iran anyhow? Is it 2/11 there yet? Well if we are still here on 2/12 I am going to celebrate like it's my birthday!! Hey 2/12 IS MY BIRTHDAY!!! Here's hoping for 37! Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariannNOVA Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 So are we still here? What time is it in Iran anyhow? Is it 2/11 there yet? Well if we are still here on 2/12 I am going to celebrate like it's my birthday!! Hey 2/12 IS MY BIRTHDAY!!! Here's hoping for 37! Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 So are we still here? What time is it in Iran anyhow? Is it 2/11 there yet? Well if we are still here on 2/12 I am going to celebrate like it's my birthday!! Hey 2/12 IS MY BIRTHDAY!!! Here's hoping for 37! Michelle Happy Birthday!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnL Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 hasn't Iran threatened this every February for the last 5 years or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 We're here too. Ps is off - though due to the excessive snow, not Iran. I guess I'd better keep going with laundry, dishes, and hs - not to mention paying the bills that are due tomorrow or this weekend. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivetails Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Iran "now a nuclear state" Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday his country has produced its first batch of a higher grade of enriched uranium, two days after the Islamic republic began the process. Ahmadinejad told hundreds of thousands of Iranians celebrating the anniversary of the 1979 Islamic revolution that the country is now a "nuclear state," but insisted Iran has no intention of building atomic weapons. Maybe that's what the big thing was about, announcing that "higher grade enriched uranium" stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbygirl Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Iran "now a nuclear state" Maybe that's what the big thing was about, announcing that "higher grade enriched uranium" stuff? I wonder if that is it. I found this quote interesting from the article you linked.... "Ahmadinejad told hundreds of thousands of Iranians celebrating the anniversary of the 1979 Islamic revolution that the country is now a "nuclear state," but insisted Iran has no intention of building atomic weapons." He claims that he only wants to use the enriched uranium for fuel and medicines but how would that be a "punch to the West"? He secretly builds a second nuclear processing facility and threatens to wipe Israel off of the map, but he's not going to use that uranium for weaponry. Yeah right. It's like the guy who buys cigarettes and claims that he doesn't smoke them, he just likes to light them and watch them burn. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristusG Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Okay, this thread is really freaky and really funny all in one. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialmama Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 I wonder if that is it. I found this quote interesting from the article you linked.... "Ahmadinejad told hundreds of thousands of Iranians celebrating the anniversary of the 1979 Islamic revolution that the country is now a "nuclear state," but insisted Iran has no intention of building atomic weapons." He claims that he only wants to use the enriched uranium for fuel and medicines but how would that be a "punch to the West"? He secretly builds a second nuclear processing facility and threatens to wipe Israel off of the map, but he's not going to use that uranium for weaponry. Yeah right. It's like the guy who buys cigarettes and claims that he doesn't smoke them, he just likes to light them and watch them burn. :rolleyes: :iagree: If radicals don't think twice about killing their own children (including strapping bombs to two-year olds) then why would they think twice about killing ours? When they have full capabilities, they will not hesitate to use them. We just watched a GREAT documentary last night and I urge everyone to rent it from their library! It's called The Third Jihad (subtitle: Radical Islam's Vision for America) it is really well done. Produced by an American Muslim, it is not about Islam, but about radical Islam. If your library has it, do rent it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhomemaker25 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Maybe they are responsible for all the snow that is shutting down parts of the country. :) I sure wish they would have remembered Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate in Arabia Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 It's called The Third Jihad (subtitle: Radical Islam's Vision for America) it is really well done. Produced by an American Muslim, it is not about Islam, but about radical Islam. The film was produced by Raphael Shore, who is definitely not a Muslim (and apparently not an American either). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialmama Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 The film was produced by Raphael Shore, who is definitely not a Muslim (and apparently not an American either). You're right, my apologies... I meant it is hosted by an American Muslim, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser. For some reason, watching the documentary, I thought he was the one putting it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Well, not everyone thinks that lends credence to something. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate in Arabia Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 It's important to know who the producers are; I would recommend anyone interested in the film research who produced it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'm holding out hope that the "punch" will be showing themselves to be better people. Their entire country is going green, they will be completely free from the chains of oil, all their people will be living in healthy conditions and thousands of new schools will be opened in the hopes of producing a well-educated, open-minded population. People's worth will be based on the sizes of their hearts and minds, without regard to gender/age/race/religion. I can hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asta Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'm holding out hope that the "punch" will be showing themselves to be better people. Their entire country is going green, they will be completely free from the chains of oil, all their people will be living in healthy conditions and thousands of new schools will be opened in the hopes of producing a well-educated, open-minded population. People's worth will be based on the sizes of their hearts and minds, without regard to gender/age/race/religion. I can hope. The Iranian people have never been the problem. Persians have always been extremely well educated and open minded. The problem is a wee bit higher on the religious/political food chain (they are inseparable there). a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 The Iranian people have never been the problem. Persians have always been extremely well educated and open minded. The problem is a wee bit higher on the religious/political food chain (they are inseparable there). a See, there's the wallop the West needed ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 What creekland is referencing is called an EMP. What follows is an article about the threat of EMP's but does not specifically address Iran. Haven't you all watched GoldenEye? Iran "now a nuclear state" Maybe that's what the big thing was about, announcing that "higher grade enriched uranium" stuff? This is exactly what I thought it was going to be. We've *known* they were refitting for this purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 The Iranian people have never been the problem. Persians have always been extremely well educated and open minded. Which is why Iran is on my list of dream vacations. One of these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwalizer Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) What? You homeschool and you don't get to be hysterical very often? I'm moving to your house! Ooops. I was commenting on someone else saying that she doesn't get to get hysterical very often. I haven't got the "quote" thing down. Edited February 11, 2010 by rwalizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 What? You homeschool and you don't get to be hysterical very often? I'm moving to your house! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Did anything happen? I haven't seen the news all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) deleted Edited February 11, 2010 by Spy Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 *working on a serious answer* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 *working on a serious answer* Really? Because I was working on a positively risible one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Really? Because I was working on a positively risible one. The good news is we have all survived (for now :D) Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen in PA Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 *working on a serious answer* :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 :lurk5: Darn, I was hoping no one noticed :D Today Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced that Iran has the capacity to highly enrich uranium. This is not "news." In his own inimitable way Ahmadinejad "saber-rattled" by saying Iran is a "nuclear state" and then tried to have it both ways by saying Iran has no intention of building a bomb (as if he should be believed). Meanwhile mass protests against the government (and suppression of those protests by security forces) continued. Unsurprisingly. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen in PA Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Darn, I was hoping no one noticed :D Sorry about that:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peek a Boo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Did anything happen? I haven't seen the news all day. Dallas is getting a lot of snow. That must have been IT! :tongue_smilie: been snowing all day. 7 inches piled on my car and it's still falling. 7 foot snowman has already been knocked down, and the ruins of two snow forts litter the lawn. there's a snow "stage" in the back yard comprised of three huge snowballs, about 3 feet high. I expect we'll add to it tomorrow...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quad Shot Academy Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I thought it was that they declared war on Google. :001_huh: Sorry, it is a FOX news link, hopefully it isn't a complete lie. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Dallas is getting a lot of snow. That must have been IT! :tongue_smilie: been snowing all day. 7 inches piled on my car and it's still falling. 7 foot snowman has already been knocked down, and the ruins of two snow forts litter the lawn. there's a snow "stage" in the back yard comprised of three huge snowballs, about 3 feet high. I expect we'll add to it tomorrow...... That really took some doing - manipulating the weather that way. The whole city must be a mess by now. :lol: I could go on, but I'm sitting in Maine eating a popcycle while typing one handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I thought it was that they declared war on Google. :001_huh: Sorry, it is a FOX news link, hopefully it isn't a complete lie. :tongue_smilie: According to other sources, Iran is interrupting gmail service. We should start a "FoxNews or The Onion?" game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I thought it was that they declared war on Google. :001_huh: Sorry, it is a FOX news link, hopefully it isn't a complete lie. :tongue_smilie: :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peek a Boo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 That really took some doing - manipulating the weather that way. nah--- it was easy. he had a lot of help from Bush's energy policies.... ;) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quad Shot Academy Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 According to other sources, Iran is interrupting gmail service. We should start a "FoxNews or The Onion?" game. I might be totally dense or missing something, but isn't gmail short for google mail? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I might be totally dense or missing something, but isn't gmail short for google mail? :confused: Yes, it is. I just thought the headline was funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quad Shot Academy Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Yes, it is. I just thought the headline was funny. ;) I get it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate in Arabia Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Which is why Iran is on my list of dream vacations. One of these days... Me too! I'm so close, yet so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabel Lee Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) N/M, I just remembered TODAY is the 11th. :P Edited February 12, 2010 by Annabel Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helena Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I've been irritating my husband since this thread started, talking about how we can survive post Persian apocalypse. I have so many good survival plans for all sorts of scenarios (zombies, earthquakes, things like that). Too much Poseidon Adventure and 28 Days Later. :001_huh: I'm also looking forward to traveling in Iran someday, so much to see and do! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Well, today is the 12th. I guess I'd better keep paying the bills and feeding the family until Dec 2012 now. Then there's that homeschooling thingy. So much for getting time off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle My Bell Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Yeah! I made it to my birthday!!! :party::party::hurray::cheers2::patriot::smilielol5: :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBee Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Well, today is the 12th. I guess I'd better keep paying the bills and feeding the family until Dec 2012 now. Then there's that homeschooling thingy. So much for getting time off. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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