sweet2ndchance Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said: Glad your shops still have some food here we still have drought and fresh food is outrageous prices, broccoli is $17 kg, lettuce is up to $10 and cauliflower is $7 head. When we lived overseas, a series of typhoons took the price of lettuce, just plain iceberg lettuce nothing special about it, to $6 a head. Back then, it usually ran just under a $1 a head during the summer. It sucks when anything messes with the food supply in your area. I hope things work themselves back to normal for you soon. Edited March 25, 2020 by sweet2ndchance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsheresomewhere Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Dandelions are excellent as a salad with hot bacon dressing and slices of hard boiled eggs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) @Ausmumof3@Stella@Rosie_0801 @Melissa in Australia Australia 🇦🇺 https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-25/the-return-of-the-world-war-victory-garden/12085190 “The panic buying that emptied supermarket shelves across the country has now spread to nurseries with vegetable seedlings, fruit trees and seeds being snapped up in large quantities. Despite reassurance from the National Farmers' Federation that Australia produces more than enough food, the resurgence in growing fresh produce has continued. Pearson's Nursery in the south-west Victorian town of Allansford is among those that have ramped up production in response to the huge demand. Manager Michaella Clements said the business had completely sold out of vegetable seedlings three times in the past fortnight. The business has tripled its normal production. "Everyone has gone a little bit crazy," she said. "Everyone has been going back to basics wanting to plant a garden and fruit trees." "They're planning for the future now." Ms Clements said she hoped to keep the nursery open as a drive-through or delivery service while Australia grappled with the coronavirus pandemic.” Edited March 25, 2020 by Arcadia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, itsheresomewhere said: Dandelions are excellent as a salad with hot bacon dressing and slices of hard boiled eggs. A favorite of mine! that can also be used as a topping on other greens cooked or raw and be less rich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madteaparty Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I suck at gardening (I try every year)—whatever grows well here (pears, garlic, peaches, dill, and raspberries) all grow despite me rather than because of me. I was able to order seeds online with no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 If you have decorative bamboo, bamboo shoots are generally edible too. And some other common weeds besides dandelions are also edible, with some also fairly nutritious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsheresomewhere Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Pen Try them sautéed with fiddlehead ferns and garlic. So good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkie Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I just ordered about 20 packs of seeds from John Scheepers today and everything I wanted was in stock. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, itsheresomewhere said: Pen Try them sautéed with fiddlehead ferns and garlic. So good. How do you do fiddlehead ferns? Baby shoots of ones just coming out and not yet opened? We have ferns, I presume the right type, but I have never understood how to use them as food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsheresomewhere Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Pen said: How do you do fiddlehead ferns? Baby shoots of ones just coming out and not yet opened? We have ferns, I presume the right type, but I have never understood how to use them as food. A friend has them growing wild on her land and I get them from her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I haven’t noticed that with seeds, but I am mostly using last year’s seed, except for some new heirlooms from TomatoFest, whom I order from most years. I also saved seeds from my tomato plants last year but I have no idea if that will actually work. Most or all are open-pollinated so *I think* that means the tomatoes might be different from expected. I did, however, order seed-starting peat pots from Amazon last week and they are nowhere to be found. I have been planting out all the small pots I have since I haven’t received my peat pots yet. I guess they’ll arrive when I have decided not to plant another thing. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Quill said: I did, however, order seed-starting peat pots from Amazon last week and they are nowhere to be found. I have been planting out all the small pots I have since I haven’t received my peat pots yet. I guess they’ll arrive when I have decided not to plant another thing. 🙄 I drilled some holes into small yoghurt containers and planted in them because my shipment of peat pots has been delayed. the method works pretty well for kale and dill so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 8 hours ago, mathnerd said: Please share your 5 minute trellis idea 🙂 Buy two green t-posts and a piece of cattle panel. Pound in the t-posts and secure the cattle panel to it with cable ties. Voila! A nearly instant and super strong trellis. As long as you don't have a ham radio operator in your house, this is an awesome method. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, Quill said: I haven’t noticed that with seeds, but I am mostly using last year’s seed, except for some new heirlooms from TomatoFest, whom I order from most years. I also saved seeds from my tomato plants last year but I have no idea if that will actually work. Most or all are open-pollinated so *I think* that means the tomatoes might be different from expected. I did, however, order seed-starting peat pots from Amazon last week and they are nowhere to be found. I have been planting out all the small pots I have since I haven’t received my peat pots yet. I guess they’ll arrive when I have decided not to plant another thing. 🙄 You can use newspaper or tp rolls to make small, plantable pots. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoeless Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 48 minutes ago, KungFuPanda said: Buy two green t-posts and a piece of cattle panel. Pound in the t-posts and secure the cattle panel to it with cable ties. Voila! A nearly instant and super strong trellis. As long as you don't have a ham radio operator in your house, this is an awesome method. Oh cool, I actually have that stuff laying around in the garage. Maybe I'll give gardening another shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, mathnerd said: I drilled some holes into small yoghurt containers and planted in them because my shipment of peat pots has been delayed. the method works pretty well for kale and dill so far. Similar to that I’ve successfully used cardboard egg cartons in past, and cut down milk containers 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Pen said: Similar to that I’ve successfully used cardboard egg cartons in past, and cut down milk containers I was just eyeing a few cardboard egg cartons with that in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellifera33 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I've used cardboard egg cartons, but noticed that I had to water more frequently than I did with a non-absorbent container. Also, they will need transplanting soon, and I'm too lazy to transplant unless absolutely necessary. I've gone to using small plastic pots or yogurt cartons with drainage holes added. Most things can go directly to the garden from their starting container, and I only have to transplant the more tender plants like tomatoes, eggplants, and peppers into bigger pots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellifera33 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 15 hours ago, mathnerd said: I drilled some holes into small yoghurt containers and planted in them because my shipment of peat pots has been delayed. the method works pretty well for kale and dill so far. Have you had good luck with peat pots actually decomposing after planting? I have had issues with plants actually getting rootbound in the ground because the peat pots didn't decompose. I went from planting intact peat pots (not right--I was supposed to remove the bottom--oops) to planting the pots with the bottom ripped off, to just ripping off the entire pots. At that point I decided the peat pots were pointless and just planted in plastic. I wonder if it's something with my soil in particular--maybe it's not rich enough in bacteria to decompose the pots? We're working with the trucked in "topsoil" dumped in suburban areas and trying to improve the soil with compost and other amendments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, mellifera33 said: Have you had good luck with peat pots actually decomposing after planting? I have had issues with plants actually getting rootbound in the ground because the peat pots didn't decompose. I went from planting intact peat pots (not right--I was supposed to remove the bottom--oops) to planting the pots with the bottom ripped off, to just ripping off the entire pots. At that point I decided the peat pots were pointless and just planted in plastic. I wonder if it's something with my soil in particular--maybe it's not rich enough in bacteria to decompose the pots? We're working with the trucked in "topsoil" dumped in suburban areas and trying to improve the soil with compost and other amendments. Peat pots do not decompose in my california climate as well (but roots seem to escape it and get out mostly). I break off the bottoms of the peat pots and slightly tear off the sides and loosen the root structure before planting. If the whole peat structure falls off while I do so, I plant the rootball directly. One tip that helps is to mix your peat or seed starting mix with a high percentage of perlite when you start the seeds. This way, when you try to loosen the roots of seedlings when you rip out the bottom/sides of the peat pot, you have an easier job of it. Peat pots are just for convenience for me. I don't like to sterilize my old plastic pots to start seeds, so I use peat pots 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Sooooo . . . I might have impulsively put my name on the waiting list for a community garden plot. My number came up and I was able to pick out my plot yesterday. I garden at home, but I don't have full sun ANYWHERE so now I'm obsessed with what plants get moved to the sunny sight, what things I grow more of at home, and if i can really pull off growing cordoned apples in this space. I'm also fantasizing about a little oasis for an impromptu tea-for-one. I might have a problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Silicon Valley peeps--PSA, the Sprouts store out off of Scott Street in Santa Clara has a big, full rack of seeds. (Also, it's a pretty nice store, I was pleasantly surprised at the produce prices. And they have eggs, really good free range organic pasture ones, as of today.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachGal Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I have 12 pounds of broccoli seed which I’ll probably use entirely this year. We eat a lot of broccoli sprouts. Broccoli sprouts are easy to grow and only take about 5-6 days until they’re ready for eating. They’re incredibly healthy, and among other things, can protect your lungs from getting hammered if you get Covid by activating the nrf2 pathway which helps to prevent viral entry and replication. I’m reading a lot of medical researchers’ advice on Covid and many of them are discussing nrf2. Here’s an older article discussing flu and nrf2. There’s a lot of technical stuff but the takeaway is in the quote below. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135631/ Quote Conversely, supplementation with the potent Nrf2 activators sulforaphane (SFN) and epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) significantly decreased viral entry and replication. Rhonda Patrick and Wellness Mama have some articles about the importance of sulforaphane, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, BeachGal said: I have 12 pounds of broccoli seed which I’ll probably use entirely this year. We eat a lot of broccoli sprouts. Broccoli sprouts are easy to grow and only take about 5-6 days until they’re ready for eating. They’re incredibly healthy, and among other things, can protect your lungs from getting hammered if you get Covid by activating the nrf2 pathway which helps to prevent viral entry and replication. I’m reading a lot of medical researchers’ advice on Covid and many of them are discussing nrf2. Here’s an older article discussing flu and nrf2. There’s a lot of technical stuff but the takeaway is in the quote below. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135631/ Rhonda Patrick and Wellness Mama have some articles about the importance of sulforaphane, too. Thank you for that tip! Do you have any recommendations for online sources of micro greens seeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Carol in Cal. said: Silicon Valley peeps--PSA, the Sprouts store out off of Scott Street in Santa Clara has a big, full rack of seeds. (Also, it's a pretty nice store, I was pleasantly surprised at the produce prices. And they have eggs, really good free range organic pasture ones, as of today.) Thanks. I never noticed seed racks in Sprouts before. I have one sprouts in my neighborhood and my DH drives past the one off Scott all the time - so, will check both this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I was about to start a thread on dandelions myself. Today was an unusual sunny (but very cool) day for us here in SoCal. I wanted to get out in my garden and (among other things do some weeding). We had a "wet" winter here and everything is exploding--including weeds. However, after pulling some other (useless weeds) and I thought about pulling up dandelions, I caught myself. Instead I treated them like lettuce and gently plucked them, leaving the plant intact. I gather a large portion (still plenty left). I sautéed a little with some leftover pasta from last night, that I served as a mid day nosh. Got raves. Then make a dandelion salad this evening to accompany out meal. Delicious! In between lunch and dinner, I turned over an area where I'd been planning another planting bed. For now I have only a few seeds. And no vegetables. But I will have dandelion seeds. So I'm going to finish getting this bed ready and will grow dandelion from the seed I gather. The stuff grows like..well you know...weeds. Everyone in my family loves eating dandelion. So these are a godsend. Not "weeds" but cherished greens. Two tips. Clean them very well. And handle them with care. The leaves bruise easily. Only unbruised leave make a nice salad. But you can save bruised leaves by sautéing them in olive oil. Anyway, I'm going to harvest and nurture the dandelion plants that have volunteered in my garden, but also gather their seeds to plant with intention. I see I'm not the only one who hit on this thought. Brava! Bill 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachGal Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/26/2020 at 11:44 PM, mathnerd said: Thank you for that tip! Do you have any recommendations for online sources of micro greens seeds? I sprout seeds from Food to Live and eat about 40-50 grams per day which is about 1 semi-compact cup. https://foodtolive.com/shop/broccoli-seeds/ Broccoli sprouts contain the most sulforaphane. If you eat frozen broccoli sprouts (not thawed, completely frozen), the sulforaphane is more bioavailable. Pregnant women should avoid sprouts but could take Avmocal, a reputable supplement used by Johns Hopkins in their studies of sulforaphane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkie Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/26/2020 at 11:44 PM, mathnerd said: Thank you for that tip! Do you have any recommendations for online sources of micro greens seeds? Just chiming in with a recommendation. I grow several varieties of microgreens and get the growing trays and seed quilts from Hamama. https://www.hamama.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSharon Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the idea. Dandelions will be a nice addition to my garden... I mean when the quarantine ends, because these days I rarely leave my house. But I managed to set up a small indoor garden in my garage and attic, it consists mostly of 4 garden tents like these and it's enough to grow herbs and vegetables. Edited April 13, 2020 by NotSharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Seasider too said: I’m glad to see this intentional growing of dandelions! I’d love to do the same, I’ve been wanting to dig some but am so wary of whether or not they’ve been treated, I haven’t done that. BUT I can certainly gather some seed heads! Last generous rains we've enjoyed over the past few months has given us a bumper crop of dandelions. Beautiful. I never use any spray (etc) in my garden, so I know it's all healthful. I can't tell you how much we've enjoyed the salads or as a sautéed green added to pasta dishes. So good.I'm gathering and spreading seed. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 2:13 PM, Melissa in Australia said: Glad your shops still have some food here we still have drought and fresh food is outrageous prices, broccoli is $17 kg, lettuce is up to $10 and cauliflower is $7 head. If that’s Australia $ — it’s possibly actually close to that a lot of the time in regular supermarkets where I am — though not via discount stores or CSAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlsdMama Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 11:58 PM, mathnerd said: I have been watching somewhat bewildered, the mad rush some people are making to buy (and hoard) vegetable seeds because of the COVID scare. People who would never in their life muck around in the garden with manure and compost are hoarding seeds preparing for Armgeddon. Most hoarders are thinking that they could grow their own vegetables in order to survive if the produce supply chain shuts down or if the produce is tainted with covid virus and worse, if they got laid off and could not afford food 😞 I met a lady today who has purchased 100+ packets of many varieties of tomato seeds and she has a 8000 sq ft suburban yard. She says that she is ensuring that she would not be left high and dry if none of the seed companies survive next year or the year after next. Two of the most popular seed selling websites crashed and were shut down in the past few days after weeks of historic sales. My local Home depot had empty slots in seed racks for regular seeds like roma tomatoes, corn and bell peppers where normally they would throw out massive amounts of packets at the end of the season because of low sales. I could not get some seed varieties from Baker Creek's website which was down for a few days and kept crashing all day long due to too many customers flocking to order at once. After seeing empty produce sections in stores and empty toilet paper aisles, I am seeing that the craze has moved on to the seed rack at the local stores 😕 And it's BEYOND annoying. You know at least half these people will utterly forget their seeds and their garden as soon as their SIP is off and they can hit the grocery store. In the mean time, the rest of us gardeners are irritated that we can't get our favorite peas........... :P 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlsdMama Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 3/25/2020 at 12:42 PM, mellifera33 said: I've used cardboard egg cartons, but noticed that I had to water more frequently than I did with a non-absorbent container. Also, they will need transplanting soon, and I'm too lazy to transplant unless absolutely necessary. I've gone to using small plastic pots or yogurt cartons with drainage holes added. Most things can go directly to the garden from their starting container, and I only have to transplant the more tender plants like tomatoes, eggplants, and peppers into bigger pots. Water the pan beneath them shallowly instead. They'll absorb what they need for the most part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlsdMama Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 1:58 AM, Michelle Conde said: Not just seeds, but there has been a run on chicks here lately, too. My dd has been planning on raising chickens this year, and the places we have tried have said they were selling out within half an hour of getting their weekly chick shipments in. Yes! I was glad I ordered mine early! I admit I felt a little foolish because there will be a lot of folks getting a very good deal on cheap half grown chickens in two months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, BlsdMama said: And it's BEYOND annoying. You know at least half these people will utterly forget their seeds and their garden as soon as their SIP is off and they can hit the grocery store. In the mean time, the rest of us gardeners are irritated that we can't get our favorite peas........... 😛 This is behind a paywall, but, if you can access it, the media has begun picking up on this madness now! https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/home/an-onslaught-of-orders-engulfs-seed-companies-amid-coronavirus-fears/2020/03/27/5a19ccca-6ec7-11ea-aa80-c2470c6b2034_story.html I have had a modest vegetable garden for almost 20 years now. I spend a lot of effort on it and still have trouble with pests and other issues and it takes a lot of time and effort on my part to keep it going. Some years, I get some tomatoes and everything else is a washout and it is fine because I enjoy the process. I am very sure that all the millions of seed packets people are ordering will get thrown out as soon as they learn that it is a long process from germinating to harvesting with a lot of hurdles in between! (one seed company said that they got orders for over 10 million seed packets since the beginning of this year 😲 ) The weirdest thing about it is that people are buying anything that is still left on websites: meaning all the unusual and weird vegetables that normally people will not try to grow are sold out now. Seed websites now shut down for a week in order to fulfill existing orders. I cannot believe the nuttiness of the times in which we live. Edited April 7, 2020 by mathnerd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, mathnerd said: This is behind a paywall, but, if you can access it, the media has begun picking up on this madness now! https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/home/an-onslaught-of-orders-engulfs-seed-companies-amid-coronavirus-fears/2020/03/27/5a19ccca-6ec7-11ea-aa80-c2470c6b2034_story.html I have had a modest vegetable garden for almost 20 years now. I spend a lot of effort on it and still have trouble with pests and other issues and it takes a lot of time and effort on my part to keep it going. Some years, I get some tomatoes and everything else is a washout and it is fine because I enjoy the process. I am very sure that all the millions of seed packets people are ordering will get thrown out as soon as they learn that it is a long process from germinating to harvesting with a lot of hurdles in between! (one seed company said that they got orders for over 10 million seed packets since the beginning of this year 😲 ) The weirdest thing about it is that people are buying anything that is still left on websites: meaning all the unusual and weird vegetables that normally people will not try to grow are sold out now. Seed websites now shut down for a week in order to fulfill existing orders. I cannot believe the nuttiness of the times in which we live. Yes. I remember clicking to see the website you had first mentioned and seeing unusual varieties and wondering “why those?” Idk - when I first got into gardening I tried a bunch of unusual things. Then I think I learned my lesson, and settled into mostly relatively common things that are usually easy to grow and reliable in my garden. And when I want production I happily go for prolific... zucchini, indeterminate cherry tomatoes, lettuce, kale, all do very well in my garden, for example. If I want food, overblown excess zucchini is great. There are lots of things I stopped even trying for. Okra for example, or any number of warm climate foods don’t do well. Edited April 7, 2020 by Pen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Pen said: If that’s Australia $ — it’s possibly actually close to that a lot of the time in regular supermarkets where I am — though not via discount stores or CSAs. Yes, au $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 We got the veggie garden fully netted and it is just about fully planted. DH cleaned the neighbour's roof in exchange for a full tank full of water so we also planted up the greenhouse tunnel. We plan on seeing how long we can go without having to go to a shop. We are aiming for 3 months. We have to see how we go... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathnerd Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said: We got the veggie garden fully netted and it is just about fully planted. DH cleaned the neighbour's roof in exchange for a full tank full of water so we also planted up the greenhouse tunnel. We plan on seeing how long we can go without having to go to a shop. We are aiming for 3 months. We have to see how we go... What about dairy products? Do you have cows or goats? Or do you use dairy alternatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Seasider too said: Have you experimented with tea? Or using the flower petals in baking? Pretty sure I have a recipe somewhere. One gal I met a few years back made dandelion jelly. She lived on a large tract of land so had plenty to collect. Tea from the flowers? Interesting. I've been enjoying the dandelion green salad greens so much that this week I created a new planting bed for greens (about a 9 foot circle/oval). My plan was to grow dandelion from the seeds that I collected in this bed if nothing else materialized. But a local nurseryman with whom I have a long relationship was able to put together a nice selection of greens (Dinosaur kale, Russian kale, Sierra lettuce, Romaine lettuce, Bibb lettuce, and a few mixes. I've planted very densely, as I hope to continually harvest as long as I can (as opposed to picking heads). Still scattering dandelion seeds on the side of my house (perfect hidden spot that is largely unused). I will defiantly embrace dandelions grown in my garden, henceforth. They are "weeds" no longer. Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, mathnerd said: What about dairy products? Do you have cows or goats? Or do you use dairy alternatives? We bought 30 1litre boxes of uht milk. 3 packets of powdered milk, some cheese, yoghurt and some butter. Nobody here is drinking milk atm, we are saving it for breakfast and a dash on hot chocolate Our house cow will have its calf mid July. We will then have heaps of fresh milk We collected our supplies slowly over a 4 week period. Buying a little extra every shopping trip, as advised by the government. No panic buying or hoarding rather keeping to the guidelines of an extra packet of everything each shopping trip. We are very fortunate we live in a climate where veggies can be grown outside in winter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Bother, twin 2 just put 2 rips in the side of the greenhouse. Next windstorm the whole side will rip. Grrrrrrr Not happy, not happy at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Spy Car said: Tea from the flowers? Interesting. I've been enjoying the dandelion green salad greens so much that this week I created a new planting bed for greens (about a 9 foot circle/oval). My plan was to grow dandelion from the seeds that I collected in this bed if nothing else materialized. But a local nurseryman with whom I have a long relationship was able to put together a nice selection of greens (Dinosaur kale, Russian kale, Sierra lettuce, Romaine lettuce, Bibb lettuce, and a few mixes. I've planted very densely, as I hope to continually harvest as long as I can (as opposed to picking heads). Still scattering dandelion seeds on the side of my house (perfect hidden spot that is largely unused). I will defiantly embrace dandelions grown in my garden, henceforth. They are "weeds" no longer. Bill Are they not bitter to you? Or do you like bitter? I've tried dandelion greens many times over the years, my mouth does not approve. I can't tolerate other bitter greens either--collard greens and mustard greens and arugula are all too bitter. Fortunately my chickens love dandelion leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said: Bother, twin 2 just put 2 rips in the side of the greenhouse. Next windstorm the whole side will rip. Grrrrrrr Not happy, not happy at all. Oh no! Can you try mending it with duct tape? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I like growing unusual stuff--it makes gardening interesting. I've found that both kale and broccoli are semi-perrenial here. I wish I had more perrenial vegetable options. I grow both ramson and ramps, those are the first new greens to come up in the spring. Also asparagus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said: Bother, twin 2 just put 2 rips in the side of the greenhouse. Next windstorm the whole side will rip. Grrrrrrr Not happy, not happy at all. Oh no! if not duct tape, maybe extra clear plastic strips over rips and outdoor Gorilla Glue ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, maize said: Are they not bitter to you? Or do you like bitter? I've tried dandelion greens many times over the years, my mouth does not approve. I can't tolerate other bitter greens either--collard greens and mustard greens and arugula are all too bitter. Fortunately my chickens love dandelion leaves. It may all just be way too bitter for your taste buds. I perceive mustard greens as hot spicy, not bitter, so probably your bitter receptors are more developed than mine. But could also be maturity of plant (use young tender leaves), time of day picking (early morning better), and how it’s prepared and seasoned. Even many green leaf lettuces will taste quite bitter if one waits till they bolt to pick them, or picks them late in day when sap is running. Strong tasting greens also benefit from preparing them in a way that mitigates bitter flavor— like hot bacon dressing and eggs can help do for dandelion greens. If you are picking dandelion when flowering has started that’s like bolted lettuce. It’s very possible that dandelion has developed its strongest medicinal powers at flowering time with certain phytochemicals developed that give it both medicinal qualities and strong bitter flavor, but it is more tender and mellow tasting well before flowering. Similarly, I love young, tender, collards and kale, not as much when mature, woody, and strong tasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemsondana Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Sorry about your ripped greenhouse! We have a small one (5 feet tall, but maybe 2ft x 3 ft with 4 shelves) that we used to start seeds for several years. The plastic had ripped and we'd been busy so had bought seedlings the past few years (just for tomatoes and peppers - the beans, peas, okra, corn, squash, cucumbers, and melon start from seed in the garden). Since we are now home with plenty of time, we patched our plastic with some of the thick plastic that clothing is sometimes shipped in when everything is bagged separately (like from Amazon) - the plastic bags that sheets and curtains come in is also really thick. We used gorilla tape to hold it in place. I hope you find something that works! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecropia Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I'm kind of upset because not one of my spinach seeds has sprouted (it's going on 3 weeks?). This is the first time I've gotten 0% germination from a packet of seeds bought new for the season. Wah. I'm just going to have to plant some more lettuce and kohlrabi in its stead. Supposedly, kohlrabi leaves can be roasted like kale to make chips, and I have a serious addiction to kale chips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I am slowly making progress in getting my garden ready for planting. I've been running the wood chipper, I use it to turn my fruit tree trimmings into wood chips that I add to the garden. Every year I turn a bit more of my yard into garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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