Plaid Dad Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I don't typically agree that a man's thoughts about sex = stumble. Not in the way often embraced by the conservative religious community. Just a note to clarify: "stumbling," as I'm using the term, does not mean s*xual thoughts per se. It means entertaining (i.e., deliberately lingering over and delighting in) such thoughts about someone who is not my wife or at a time when such thoughts interfere with other areas of my life (like prayer or worship). That potential exists within any input from the environment, but for many men, it is increased substantially by visual stimuli. I understand, though, that some men (and women) struggle with this more than others and also that not everyone considers a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Atl Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 And this goes for the men's cleavage too!:001_huh: You know, the pants are not high enough kind of thing!:lol: You know... I drive past the river every Monday night; It's a very popular jogging area. I've almost driven off the road admiring some of the male cleavage on display. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG Gone Wild Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I'm glad you edited that. At first I thought you were just biased against imperfect cleavage (no fat, old boobs, please). :D perky, over inflated is not a good look either..:tongue_smilie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 But your comment didn't allow for those generalities. And I'm not sure saying that in general, fat and old women showing cleavage makes you gag is any better. There's still an implicit judgement about what most fat and old women should not be doing.When I was living in Windsor, ON (before the art gallery building became a casino and moved to a mall) the local art gallery hosted a photography exhibit by Burton Cummings of middle aged nudes. This exhibit generated more controversy than any previous... there were even letter to the editor in the local paper. :001_rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I'm 5'1" and a D cup. There is less that 4" between the top of my shoulder and the top of my cleavage. So, a lot of shirts show more than it would on a taller woman or a woman with smaller booKs. My booKs are too big to wear a petite size. So, a lot of my tops show some cleavage, even when I wear a tank underneath them (as I usually do). I don't know whether you would consider me "fat" that line seems to be different for everyone. I think I dress reasonably modest but I guess I don't know what those around me really think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamagistra Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 crack-whoreness :lol::lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Heather Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 perky, over inflated is not a good look either..:tongue_smilie: :iagree: I actually can't take it when the 'highbeams' are on, and everyone can tell. Put on a tanktop underneath if the material is that thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah CB Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Fat, slim, young, or old - ask any guy what the sight of cleavage does to him and the answer will be pretty unanimous. Of that, I'm certain. For us women, becoming skinny/sexy/tan/curvy can become an idol. For men, it is a source of temptation. As a Christian woman, I must avoid both. Yes, exactly. And then I always wonder what the person's motivation is behind wanting to show me her breasts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 My husband likes the blouses I wear. I am sorry it bothers you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny in Atl Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Yes, exactly. And then I always wonder what the person's motivation is behind wanting to show me her breasts... In some cases, to feed a baby. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda in NE Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 It was called "The Poor Old Prurient Interest Blues." The lyrics include the following: "Don't leave it hanging out and sagging over everything I see Don't take it off 'til I'm ready Let me have my little dreams Have mercy on my poor old prurient interest" All I can say is "Amen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asta Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 In some cases, to feed a baby. ;) OT... Many, many years ago, before I even had my son, my sister was a militant breastfeeder and LLL member (who then turned ME into one). One day, while nursing her baby, some aghast person stopped dead in their tracks to stare at her slightly bared bosom and declared "why are you doing THAT?". To which she calmly replied: "Because I'm a mammal." It still cracks me up. asta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieAir Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Wow Jenni, you did your research. As a 32 year old size 14-16 nursing mother there are times when I show cleavage because frankly, I have little choice. There is little modest clothing to choose from (if any). Sometimes I do not realize it is showing, because my size has changed from the last time I wore that outfit. Immodesty is defined as drawing attention to oneself. If someone is drawing attention due to cleavage, or is making it difficult for anyone to remain chaste due to the flaunting of their body, then it is wrong and needs to be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenpatty Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Am I an old fuddy-duddy? Everywhere I go I see women (even ones as old as I am) and teenage girls wearing low-cut tops revealing plenty of cleavage. It isn't attractive to me (perhaps I should be grateful for this, seeing as I'm female?), and it looks downright suggestive. I won't let DD wear any tops like that, but they certainly are popular at her school. What do you all think about this? Am I woefully behind the times, or is wearing these kinds of tops in poor taste? Or what? ("Or other" didn't sound right.) What gets to me is that sometimes right after I see a woman or girl dressed like this, I see a teenaged boy with his pants falling off, showing either his underwear or his own cleavage (different end). RC Guess I'm a fuddy duddy, too. I prefer not to see it. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Jenni, You might want to include a warning that some of the photos you have linked to are *very* revealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Request to mod-type: Can this thread please be merged with the other one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyinLA Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I'm not big into showing cleavage (probably because I have none, and what I do have is so saggy from nursing 4 kids that I have to shove it into a bra to keep it from going to my belly!!) :lol: I will say this though; I have been accused of being a sexy person. Yes, it's shameful but I admit it. I have always had people (okay - men) pay a lot of attention to me whether I asked for it or not. I don't tend to dress skimpily (I occasionally wear something with straps vs. sleeves in the summer, but it always has plenty of coverage elsewhere. I don't wear tight shirts (can't stand the feel of them or what I feel like they show), wear lots of sweatshirts in the winter, etc., but it is obviously just a confidence in myself along with my outgoing personality that seems to attract people. I mention all this only to come to my point; I don't think we can always blame ourselves for what men are thinking about us. I am not trying to incite a certain feeling or thought from a man when I dress at home. What he thinks when he sees me in public is not within my control. If he has a thought or feeling that causes him to stumble, that has got to be his responsibility. I see good-looking men every day. I do NOT want to do things with them that I do with my husband. I just think people (men and women) need to take responsibility for their own thoughts/feelings and not use the attractiveness or dress of another person as an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie~Phlox Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Guess I'm a fuddy duddy, too. I prefer not to see it. :D Me too, I don't care what the age, race, weight, etc. I just don't want to see it. Phlox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie~Phlox Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Jenni, You might want to include a warning that some of the photos you have linked to are *very* revealing. I see this kind of stuff on the street, so it's really no different right? I mean, I don't choose to look at it when I'm out and about either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom to Aly Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I don't see it as a matter of right or wrong, I see it as a matter or personal comfort, for the most part. I am really, majorly ultra-liberal on my views of the world, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with baring your midriff, but I am somewhat conservative on cleavage--OK, pretty conservative--and was even when I was young and thin. And, although I don't like really low cut that much, I don't really have a prob with other people doing it, because it is their body, and their business. Would I have a prob with my dd doing it? When she is young, yes--when she is older, as long as she is comfortable with her body, and doing it because she likes to dress that way, and not for the wrong reason, no. My goddaughter dresses in a way that most people would find very trashy, but she really loves her body, and I don't think it is wrong, so I'm all for it. I completely feel, to each his own. Except for boys and their "cleavage"--that, I really don't want to see ;)--I think that is just sloppy ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I mention all this only to come to my point; I don't think we can always blame ourselves for what men are thinking about us. I am not trying to incite a certain feeling or thought from a man when I dress at home. What he thinks when he sees me in public is not within my control. If he has a thought or feeling that causes him to stumble, that has got to be his responsibility. I see good-looking men every day. I do NOT want to do things with them that I do with my husband. I just think people (men and women) need to take responsibility for their own thoughts/feelings and not use the attractiveness or dress of another person as an excuse. :iagree: My own Dh has had his share of struggles and in the past has both participated and led FMO (For Men Only) support groups. He once made the comment that all a man needs to know is that we are female and he can imagine the rest himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I wear shirts with a small amount of cleavage showing. I enjoy it, as does my husband. My normal style used to be a) top with cleavage, teamed with loose trousers, or b) loose tunic top with tight trousers/yoga pants. Having either top or bottom skin tight/slightly revealing gave me a lift, a spring in my step. Now that I live in the country, I don't wear the yoga pants much: too easy to snag on something. I still wear faux-wrap Ts that show some top curves. I'm a 36A, so I'm not falling out of them. The link is to a Victoria's Secret page. I can imagine stopping at some point: when the skin on my chest starts to wrinkle. I don't personally find that attractive, but all power to those who want to carry on. Laura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Katia Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Gee, I should make this very clear: The women I have seen have all been *fat*, and many have been quite old. This is why their clothing choices made an impression on me. Gag me with a spoon! This just seems, so.....so.....rudely judgmental. I am fat. I am old. I have between a D and DD cup. And I wear what "I" like because I like it. There are times others wear things that I, personally, would not wear, but I don't feel I have any right to verbally note it, mention it or criticize it. They wear what "they" like. Just as you have the right to wear what "you" like. If you don't like what others wear make a note to yourself to not dress that way, but please refrain from the rude comments on weight and age. Some of us, I for one, are very comfortable with our bodies as they are, age and all. We dress to please ourselves, not others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle T Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I notice people dressed in clothes that really don't look good on them, and I notice clothes that reveal too much skin. But I don't generally think that much about it beyond maybe thinking "Wow, guess they didn't look in their mirror this morning." We live in an incredibly hot area, so there are always plenty of people in short shorts, crop/tank tops, etc. Some look better than others, but whatever. As we used to say in elementary school "It's a free country". Michelle T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahamamama Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I'll answer the question I asked. I guess I am an old fuddy-duddy. Dictionary.com defines one as "a person who is stuffy, old-fashioned, and conservative". In matters of dress, I am conservative. DD would agree with stuffy and old-fashioned, too. RC :iagree: I don't consider myself a "fuddy-duddy...." I suppose I AM old-fashioned and conservative in some ways, but not exactly stuffy. I do dress modestly. My husband and I currently dress our daughters modestly, and will continue to expect this as they grow and mature. I have what my husband considers to be a nice, um, well-rounded figure. When we met online, my screen name was "Curlsandcurves" -- both of which I have in great abundance. ;) My husband was drawn in like a moth to a candle. When we met for the first time (in the Philadelphia Airport, ladies), I wore a sweet-but-snug-enough red calico dress with blue flowers -- NOT exactly Hubba-Hubba attire, but "sweetly sexy." There's nothing wrong (IMO) with knowing what we've "got," but I don't go around "offering" it to everyone, just David. Modest does not have to equal prudish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah CB Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 How a person dresses, "presents herself", feels about herself, her weight, age are intimate topics. Perhaps we have a different understanding of the word "intimate". I think that anything you decide to publically showcase to the world ceases to be intimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jami Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 What about the French and British styles doing the time of Elizabeth I? They not only showed cleavage, they were just about popping out with each breath! And some of us look so much more attractive with a higher waist, lower neckline shirt or gown. I feel so much prettier at this point in my pregnancy because I have cute shirts that have an empire waist and flattering neckline (for me). As a bustier girl with a fairly squarish figure (borderline hourglass), it's more flattering to wear a more open collar or lower neckline than say, a turtleneck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I think that anything you decide to publically showcase to the world ceases to be intimate. Perhaps. And maybe it is unfair for me to assume the world has enough maturity and class to not make personal judgements about people's bodies or the way they dress. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom31257 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Okay...I am a "fuddy, duddy" also. I believe modesty is important. I am amazed how quickly our society has become immodest. The magazine covers are crazy and don't get me started on the huge window photos in the malls. My 11 yo dd announced to me in the grocery store aisle that half of the magazine covers had something about sex on them. She asked me, "what are sex tricks". AAAAGGGGHHHH!!!! An 11 year old shouldn't be asking THAT!!!! We have all ready taught her about sex, but I really don't want to go into those kind of details yet. We are Christians, and I feel that knowing men are aroused by sight, that I have a responsibility to not tempt them. My dh said it was very difficult being a Christian teen boy. He said the more skin he saw the worse it was for him. We have consistently had our dd dress modestly, even when she was little. I'm not saying "I'm all that", but I do have a good amount of cleavage that would be "out there" if I didn't choose clothing accordingly. I want to dress attractively for dh, but some things should be left for the bedroom, IMHO. He's the only one I really care about being attracted to me anyway. One problem that I'm having is the amount of cleavage and short skirts at our church. There are a few women in their 30's wearing mini-skirts and showing lots of cleavage. To me, isn't that just a distraction from the purpose of being there? I could see you going out to dinner with your husband like that, but at church? I guess I am old-fashioned...and I'm all right with that. I never have been one to follow the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senunk Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I don't use AOL much anymore, but the message board from when I was pregnant with my first (she's about to turn 10!) is still around! Parents of Children born in October 1998 - it started as expecting in October 98 and there are a bunch of us who still post and keep in touch. Geeks. ;) That is hilrarious! There were five of us at my church that all had babies in October of 1998, and it was a small church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah CB Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Perhaps. And maybe it is unfair for me to assume the world has enough maturity and class to not make personal judgements about people's bodies or the way they dress. ;) I didn't see where the judgemental part came in...besides people saying they had no interest in seeing people's cleavage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBlueLobsters Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Am I an old fuddy-duddy? Everywhere I go I see women (even ones as old as I am) and teenage girls wearing low-cut tops revealing plenty of cleavage. It isn't attractive to me (perhaps I should be grateful for this, seeing as I'm female?), and it looks downright suggestive. I won't let DD wear any tops like that, but they certainly are popular at her school. What do you all think about this? Am I woefully behind the times, or is wearing these kinds of tops in poor taste? Or what? ("Or other" didn't sound right.) What gets to me is that sometimes right after I see a woman or girl dressed like this, I see a teenaged boy with his pants falling off, showing either his underwear or his own cleavage (different end). RC I didn't read the other posts, but I agree. I'm not in favor or showing my or seeing other womens (or teenage boys 'other end') cleavage. Add me to the Fuddy Duddy list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caitlinsmom Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I have an issue with this also. I should say that I am not talking about women who cant help but show it due to size but of those who choose to show it. Personally I get tired of it, especially on young girls. It bugs me because these girls have so much to offer but it seems like the only way they feel appreciated is if guys/men are looking at them. I was one of those girls back in the day and it wasnt until I had a man tell me "Honey you are so much more than your bust size, be true to yourself." that I even realized what I was doing. Now I talk with young teen girls all the time ( I am the surrogate big sis) and I hear it over and over. This is where I want to scream at marketing companies that imply unless your breasts hang out you arent beautiful or wanted. Cleavage on grown women doesnt bug me as much but still find myself thinking "cover up already!". sometimes I feel like I need a ticket for the veiws!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I didn't see where the judgemental part came in...besides people saying they had no interest in seeing people's cleavage. So what does that mean for those of us who like to dress attractively, and perhaps emphasize what we consider to be our positive features? Should we be subject to total strangers as we consider our wardrobe? Should we face judgement if our fashion choices don't meet other people's standards? Am I responsible for dressing in a way that pleases you, or are you mature and gracious enough to accept me as I am? Maybe I am just missing the point of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 :leaving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheryl in NM Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I'll answer the question I asked. I guess I am an old fuddy-duddy. Dictionary.com defines one as "a person who is stuffy, old-fashioned, and conservative". In matters of dress, I am conservative. DD would agree with stuffy and old-fashioned, too. RC I totally agree with you about the revealing clothing! I deleted the rest of my post because I can't find a tactful way to express myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah CB Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 So what does that mean for those of us who like to dress attractively, and perhaps emphasize what we consider to be our positive features? Should we be subject to total strangers as we consider our wardrobe? Should we face judgement if our fashion choices don't meet other people's standards? Am I responsible for dressing in a way that pleases you, or are you mature and gracious enough to accept me as I am? Maybe I am just missing the point of this thread. I'm not really feeling judgemental about the whole thing, more like confused. So, you feel that your breasts are positive features that you'd lke to emphasize to the general public? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravengal Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I like that, Beansprouts: "mature and gracious enough to accept me as I am". The area I live in must be another anomaly. I notice young women are wearing less revealing clothing. I also don't have any trouble finding appropriate clothing for myself or dd when I go shopping. Maybe we see what we look for. I just realized my avatar has a bare "book"!! Yikes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaNY Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Fat, slim, young, or old - ask any guy what the sight of cleavage does to him and the answer will be pretty unanimous. Of that, I'm certain. For us women, becoming skinny/sexy/tan/curvy can become an idol. For men, it is a source of temptation. As a Christian woman, I must avoid both. Yes, that's it. :001_smile: I do feel for women who a very large-busted. I'm sure it is a real big pain in the behind to cover cleavage. Although, this will never be a problem for me, since to get any sort of cleavage, I'd have to squeeze those girls together so hard, my skin would rip. :scared: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah CB Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 So what does that mean for those of us who like to dress attractively, and perhaps emphasize what we consider to be our positive features? Should we be subject to total strangers as we consider our wardrobe? Should we face judgement if our fashion choices don't meet other people's standards? Am I responsible for dressing in a way that pleases you, or are you mature and gracious enough to accept me as I am? Maybe I am just missing the point of this thread. Just to address the last bit about being mature and gracious - I have lots of friends who show cleavage - not to mention my sister and my mother. In fact, last time my sister was here she tried to convince me to take off my camisole so that I'd show some cleavage, too. I accept my friends and my family as they are. I wish I didn't have to see their breasts so much, but I love them anyway. I may wonder sometimes why they choose to show me so much of their breasts, but it doesn't mean I think they're bad people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuzzled Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I personally don't show much cleavage because I feel a little uncomfortable and exposed when I do. I also make sure my daughter is dressed conservatively. But I don't get why so many women "don't want to see it." Why does it matter if you see the cleavage of other women? Is it because you just don't like to see breasts? Why not? Or are you worried your husband will see it and think impure thoughts? Why does it really matter how someone else chooses to dress? Maybe as an artist, my tolerance level of the human body is different. But I don't get why it bothers so many women to see exposed breasts on adult women. Kris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheryl in NM Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I appreciate feminine beauty as much as the next guy - with absolutely no prejudice with regard to body size, I might add - but revealing fashions are a stumbling block to many men. Yes, it's our responsibility to deal with our reactions, to practice "modesty of the eyes," and to behave appropriately. Yes, women have the right to dress any way they please in public within the confines of the law and should never have to fear for their safety. But I am very grateful when I see a beautiful woman modestly dressed. She may not know me from Adam, but she has blessed me. Thank you for your post! Men's reaction to my revealing clothes is why I quit wearing them (back when I was skinny and looked good in them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 So, you feel that your breasts are positive features that you'd like to emphasize to the general public? I don't get it. I realise your question was not addressed to me, but I appreciate your attempt to understand a different point of view, so will try to answer. I see the upper curves of my chest as an attractive part of me. I also emphasise my smile, my hands, my pudgy little feet. I quite like my body, and enjoy showing it off. Perhaps not today, with a red nose and snuffles, but in general. Laura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom'sGirl Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I think their is a fine line between sexy and just looking cheap. I really try not to judge the looks of others but I had to literally bite my cheek one day to keep from laughing as dh and I were out for a walk. We passed 2 teenage girls who were smoking and one had a very low cut top and her lighter was shoved right in her cleavage. I guess it is a handy spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I think their is a fine line between sexy and just looking cheap. I really try not to judge the looks of others but I had to literally bite my cheek one day to keep from laughing as dh and I were out for a walk. We passed 2 teenage girls who were smoking and one had a very low cut top and her lighter was shoved right in her cleavage. I guess it is a handy spot. Used to keep a handkerchief in her bra cup. She would quite unselfconsciously reach inside her (modest) blouse to pull a hanky out. My fellow pupils and I found this quite strange, but she clearly didn't see it as odd or inappropriate. Laura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I think their is a fine line between sexy and just looking cheap. I would agree with this. However, it's impossible to discuss without making judgments. We all have different comfort levels. Does anyone here believe I show the *entire* side of my breast like the pictures of Jessica Simpson or Pamela Anderson just because I said I show some cleavage sometimes? I think most people here would agree that's a little over the top. Here are some pictures of a typical amount of cleavage for me: http://scrapbookingforhire.com/jen_greg_Bbq.jpg http://scrapbookingforhire.com/jen_lush2.jpg this is a little less typical since it's a ball but still http://scrapbookingforhire.com/jenandgreg7thgball_06.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I'm not really feeling judgemental about the whole thing, more like confused. So, you feel that your breasts are positive features that you'd lke to emphasize to the general public? I don't get it. I think we're both confused :tongue_smilie:Part of my confusion is in what is considered "cleavage" by the op, and whom she considers worthy to show it ;) I looked over PrarieAir's links, and I think she and I have similar views about what is attractive. I just don't get the point of this thread. Is it a comment on the degrading morals in our society as represented by the way women dress, a statement about a general lack of fashion sense or a plea for unnattractive people to not wear revealing clothing? What am I supposed to take from this discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Here are some pictures of a typical amount of cleavage for me: http://scrapbookingforhire.com/jen_greg_Bbq.jpg [/url] Laura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I realise your question was not addressed to me, but I appreciate your attempt to understand a different point of view, so will try to answer. I see the upper curves of my chest as an attractive part of me. I also emphasise my smile, my hands, my pudgy little feet. I quite like my body, and enjoy showing it off. Perhaps not today, with a red nose and snuffles, but in general. Laura :iagree: What she said. My DH also is rather proud of my appearance and likes me looking attractive when we are out. As a Christian I could argue it is my way of honoring him ;) As a woman among other women I think most of us enjoy being pretty and feel better about ourselves when we do. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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