Sandy in Indy Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Every month the Costco magazine runs a poll on some issue. This month's issue is: Should parents be certified to homeschool their children? http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/200809/?u1=texterity (Go to page 17.) I also sent them a comment and told them to please notify my two children who are graduating this spring (one from college and one from high school) that I wasn't certified to teach them high levels of material. I assured them my kids would laugh as they waved their honor cords! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_Edgerton Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Glad to cast my vote!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersDozen Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I not only voted but left my thoughts on the certification requirement and the laughable "standards" of public education that the "experts" think homeschooled children should be held accountable to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Where is it? Could you provide a link to the actual poll? I can not find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMom2One Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I also voted and added my comments for debate. Thanks for the heads up on the survey. :) Blessings, Lucinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey in TX Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I voted. Thanks for the heads up on the poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy in Ky Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I voted:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Try this link. If it doesn't work, go to "Contents", then page 16 "Debate" and click on "Click here to vote". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen in VA Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Done. I really liked Michael Smith's answer that he didn't think public school teachers should have to be certified either.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in CA Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Voted, thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Voted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy in Indy Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 Bumping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragons in the flower bed Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Found this on a friend's LiveJournal: Costco's Magazine has an article asking whether parents should be certified if they wish to teach their children at home. You can also vote in their survey. Choose the "Content" tab, then "Page 16, Debate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Found this on a friend's LiveJournal: Costco's Magazine has an article asking whether parents should be certified if they wish to teach their children at home. You can also vote in their survey. Choose the "Content" tab, then "Page 16, Debate." Bumping so people can see this. I think it always helps to put our voices in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Here's the link directly to the survey. http://www.imakenews.com/costco/index000290018.cfm and to the article http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/200809/?u1=texterity Note that they put the pro-certification article and comments first:glare: and that they used a group not all homeschoolers like for the anti-cerification (but at least it's anti-certification.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clementine Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Costco's Online Magazine is running a poll asking whether parents should be certified to homeschool their children. When I voted this morning it was 53% yes - regardless of your stance, place your vote here: http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/200809/?u1=texterity Thanks hive :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSinIL Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Thanks for the link - I had never found the survey before, although folks have mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clementine Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I'm just wondering why they would have a debate on this topic. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma23peas Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Because it made headlines when California had the legislation glitch about homeschooling a few months ago...but ultimately, I think it's agencies like NEA and others trying to push this through because they're losing funding and control. Tara (I voted!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey in TX Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 That's a pretty even split for homeschool certification. Even if certification were required by individual states, it wouldn't likely be any more difficult than each state's standardized testing. Would it really be such a bad thing, other than the fact that it's insulting and time consuming? All states have teacher requirements. Why not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a parent is fully capable of teaching one's child/ren the minimum. I'm not advocating the idea, just pondering the possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tap Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 There were a couple of posts earlier in the month for this same poll. I am only mentioning this in case you don't get a lot of responses to your post. I don't want you to think that we are all indifferent to hsing regulations :tongue_smilie:. I am sure there are a lot of people who didn't see it before who will be happy you posted it. ~~Tap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula in MS Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 That's a pretty even split for homeschool certification. Even if certification were required by individual states, it wouldn't likely be any more difficult than each state's standardized testing. Would it really be such a bad thing, other than the fact that it's insulting and time consuming? All states have teacher requirements. Why not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a parent is fully capable of teaching one's child/ren the minimum. I'm not advocating the idea, just pondering the possibility. Because parents shouldn't have to answer to the government about their children's education. It should only be the other way around.:D Paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clementine Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see it before - I got my Sept. 08 magazine, so I didn't even think about it probably being sent out in Aug. Thanks for the heads-up :-) I'll have to search past threads to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Academy of Jedi Arts Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 So many parents are jumping in not realizing the responsibility involved in homeschooling and the homeschooling community is hell bent on making excuses for lack of education and putting down the public schools. I fear the only answer to this is more regulation since the homeschool community won't police itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey in TX Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Because parents shouldn't have to answer to the government about their children's education. It should only be the other way around.:D Paula What about the parents who do not educate their children, but pull them out of ps under the auspices of homeschool? That is the only reason which it might be deemed acceptable. It would probably be the minority, but there are lazy parents out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosy Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I responded to this a couple weeks ago--thanks for the heads up though! Even if certification were required by individual states, it wouldn't likely be any more difficult than each state's standardized testing. Would it really be such a bad thing, other than the fact that it's insulting and time consuming? My understanding of the question is whether homeschoolers should be required to go through the *same* certification process as ps teachers. In Washington State, that means a BA + a 5th year that is geared toward classroom management and internship. This would be of no value to me as a homeschooler, obviously. If it was a simple test on the level of standardized testing, it would be annoying but not a problem. I would need 3 more years of full-time college to be certified to teach in Washington state though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosy Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 What about the parents who do not educate their children, but pull them out of ps under the auspices of homeschool? That is the only reason which it might be deemed acceptable. It would probably be the minority, but there are lazy parents out there. I've known families like that, and I think it is horrible, but I don't think it's the government's place to tell parents how to raise their kids. Also, even if some level of government intrusion was desirable, I don't think becoming a certified teacher is necessary--they can provide oversight in other ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I responded to this a couple weeks ago--thanks for the heads up though! My understanding of the question is whether homeschoolers should be required to go through the *same* certification process as ps teachers. In Washington State, that means a BA + a 5th year that is geared toward classroom management and internship. This would be of no value to me as a homeschooler, obviously. If it was a simple test on the level of standardized testing, it would be annoying but not a problem. I would need 3 more years of full-time college to be certified to teach in Washington state though. Right. And, in the interest of the question raised about perhaps it might be a good idea (just for discussion, I got that!;)) I'm sure many of us realize that that would cause great difficulty if child in public school needed to be pulled out as quickly as possible, or at least within a year and the parent(s) involved didn't have a BA, the money to afford private school, etc. Not to mention the fact that it's very apparent that many "qualified" teachers are doing a poor job, either because they're not very good or because they're working with a system that makes it next to impossible to provide a good education. There are other points, of course, but I'll just take this much. After all, I did learn to take turns and let others play when I went to school... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwilliams1922 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I'm not sure if this has been posted already, but I just received it.... It takes less than a minute to vote. Vote NO that parents don't need to be certified to homeschool their http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/200809/?u1=texterity Costco member? Even if you are not you can vote about whether you think parents need to be certified to homeschool their kids. This is the Costco Connection newsletter debate for the September 2008 issue. Right now 57% think parents DO need to be certified in order to homeschool. Follow the link above, then click on "click here for this month's debate", then click on the red "click here to vote" icon on the right side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwilliams1922 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 :) bumping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I voted...it was easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 well I have only heard of Costco from this board, but I did vote for no certification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieMonster Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I clicked the wrong link at first...and I didn't spot the "vote here" option easily...but I voted. I guess the don't have up-to-the-minute surveying results available to view? I didn't see anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I voted...NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmac Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I voted no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieMonster Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Costco's Online Magazine is running a poll asking whether parents should be certified to homeschool their children. When I voted this morning it was 53% yes - As far as I can see, they don't show up-to-the-minute results of the poll. The poll results you can see on the page where you click to vote, are the results for last month's poll: Do eco-tourism costs outweigh the benefits? 53% said yes in that poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieMonster Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 What about the parents who do not educate their children, but pull them out of ps under the auspices of homeschool? That is the only reason which it might be deemed acceptable. It would probably be the minority, but there are lazy parents out there. Exactly. There are lazy parents out there who public school and private school their kids. Parents who let their children graduate from high school without every actually learning how to read. Parents who never check their kids' homework and excuse months' worth of absences each year. But these parents are not subject to government scrutiny. They are not required to take courses, pass tests, or meet other requirements. I know it sounds like a great idea, at first. I used to think so myself. But, in the end, what you end up regulating is parenting itself. There was quite a discussion about this a while back, I'll see if I can find it and link to it. Here it is: Homeschool Accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Exactly. There are lazy parents out there who public school and private school their kids. Parents who let their children graduate from high school without every actually learning how to read. Parents who never check their kids' homework and excuse months' worth of absences each year. But these parents are not subject to government scrutiny. They are not required to take courses, pass tests, or meet other requirements. I know it sounds like a great idea, at first. I used to think so myself. But, in the end, what you end up regulating is parenting itself. There was quite a discussion about this a while back, I'll see if I can find it and link to it. Here it is: Homeschool Accountability. Exactly. Of course, some (but not me) might argue that at least they've put their kids in ps where certified teacher are teaching them;). IMO, ps is a service, but parents are responsible to oversee their dc's education regardless of where they learn. I expect that most on this board share that opinion, but I'm stating the "obvious". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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