Momling Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Today I got a flyer addressed to 'postal customer' in the mail from Art Robinson at the "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine". My kids had fun looking for logical fallacies and enjoying the particularly pointless graphs... But I still can't figure out why he wants me to submit a urine sample. Is he trying to sell me something? Regain his lost reputation as a scientist? Is he just a total nutcase? I thought he'd be too busy denying global warming and picketing abortion clinics or running for office or building underground bunkers or something to want my neighborhood's bodily fluids. According to the flyer "We need samples of your urine in order to calibrate analytical procedures that can revolutionize the evaluation of personal chemistry - and thereby improve our health, our happiness and prosperity, and even the academic performance of our children in school." Thoughts?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfunnybunch Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 http://www.kval.com/politics/Oregon-GOP-chairman-Please-send-your-urine-223696991.html?mobile=y It's from September, but I can't imagine his reasoning has changed much since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I vote Nutjob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I don't think he'd build a bunker, because radiation is good. I'd be inclined to send a sample of apple juice and see if he lets you know the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 http://www.kval.com/politics/Oregon-GOP-chairman-Please-send-your-urine-223696991.html?mobile=y It's from September, but I can't imagine his reasoning has changed much since then. Umm, how does he propose to do long term follow up? And what about medical privacy issues? Nutjob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Oh, my gosh. Are you even supposed to understand that quote? Is there a place you are supposed to go to submit your sample? Or is this a mail-in thing? Nutjob. Definitely a nutjob. Possibly a whackadoodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie G Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Wait. This is the same Art Robinson who came up with the Robinson Curriculum years ago after his wife Lauralee died, isn't it? I vote whackadoodle. Maybe even King of the Whackadoodles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 Yep - the Robinson curriculum guy... And apparently my pee is to be sent through the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiMi 4under3 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I've always liked Art Robinson. His research - tracking cells deposited in urine over time to see if they correlate with the progression of disease, to me, sounds like a noble endeaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 You can't mail urine. It had to be sent Fed ex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I've always liked Art Robinson. His research - tracking cells deposited in urine over time to see if they correlate with the progression of disease, to me, sounds like a noble endeaver. You mean he is actually checking to see if someone is polluting our precious bodily fluids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 The thread title made me LOL. Seems perfect for a Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 Here's someone's link to the front page of the flyer we received. The middle pages are even more awesome... http://www.kdrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/robinson-pg-1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I received the same flier. :leaving: My dh and I had a good laugh over it before we threw it out. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umsami Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Why doesn't he want mine? Is my urine not good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Yep - the Robinson curriculum guy... And apparently my pee is to be sent through the post. Is that not illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Why doesn't he want mine? Is my urine not good enough? Perhaps he is only interested in Oregonian Pee. :smilielol5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsior! Academy Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 This board keeps me rolling!!! Yep - the Robinson curriculum guy...And apparently my pee is to be sent through the post. Ack! You can't mail urine. It had to be sent Fed ex. Um, why do you know this? There must be a story. The thread title made me LOL. Seems perfect for a Friday night. Agreed!! Why doesn't he want mine? Is my urine not good enough? Mine isn't either. I am left out of all the good medical studies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulycrabby Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 No one has asked for my urine. I feel so left out. :( However, wouldn't it be funny if we ALL sent Art Robinson our urine? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhappypeople Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Sounds like it's actually for a good cause. Kind of a weird way to recruit donors, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama27 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Today I got a flyer addressed to 'postal customer' in the mail from Art Robinson at the "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine". My kids had fun looking for logical fallacies and enjoying the particularly pointless graphs... But I still can't figure out why he wants me to submit a urine sample. Is he trying to sell me something? Regain his lost reputation as a scientist? Is he just a total nutcase? I thought he'd be too busy denying global warming and picketing abortion clinics or running for office or building underground bunkers or something to want my neighborhood's bodily fluids. According to the flyer "We need samples of your urine in order to calibrate analytical procedures that can revolutionize the evaluation of personal chemistry - and thereby improve our health, our happiness and prosperity, and even the academic performance of our children in school." Thoughts?? Um. That's REALLY weird! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Um, why do you know this? There must be a story. I know this because it's true of all bodily fluids. Same reason breastmilk must be sent FedEx. USPS won't ship it. They will, however, ship live chicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Why doesn't he want mine? Is my urine not good enough? I guess mine isn't good enough, either, although I prefer to believe that Art sent me a handwritten personal request but it was lost in the mail. Did he send people a super-special sanitized urine receptacle to put it in? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Perhaps he is only interested in Oregonian Pee. :smilielol5:I'm guessing that he doesn't want my weirdo California pee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I'm guessing that he doesn't want my weirdo California pee. Thank heavens for small miracles. :D It would absolutely creep me out if someone mailed me a request for pee. :ack2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I'm guessing that he doesn't want my weirdo California pee. :lol: Well Oregonians are very leery of Californians in general. :001_cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 :lol: Well Oregonians are very leery of Californians in general. :001_cool:Yeah, I was too until I moved here. You should definitely be leery of California drivers though, they're scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Yeah, I was too until I moved here. You should definitely be leery of California drivers though, they're scary. Maybe they're just distracted by the letter they just got in the mail from Art Robinson... :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PollyOR Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I received a flyer in the mail this week - another awesome Oregonian! :) I figured it was some sort of sales gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraidycat Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Maybe they're just distracted by the letter they just got in the mail from Art Robinson... :eek: I don't think the Robinson dude has enough $$ to fund that many flyers. ;) The sheer # of scary drivers is truly horrifying. Robinson would be bankrupted by the postage. Even at mass mailing rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 I guess the question then is... Do I toss out the flyer or do I take one for the team and actually agree to participate? Pros: I can find out if pee can be actually sent through the mail. I can get more pseudo-scientific mail to amuse myself and my kids Cons: It might be a marketing ploy and I'll be asked to pay for the results of my urinalysis It could be some weird loophole in law and I'll have inadvertently "donated" to his political campaign. He could use or sell my private information He could be using my urine for nefarious purposes such as building a zombie army or creating weapons of mass destruction He could have some creepy pee fetish and I'll have encouraged him in his perversion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I guess the question then is... Do I toss out the flyer or do I take one for the team and actually agree to participate? Pros: I can find out if pee can be actually sent through the mail. I can get more pseudo-scientific mail to amuse myself and my kids Cons: It might be a marketing ploy and I'll be asked to pay for the results of my urinalysis It could be some weird loophole in law and I'll have inadvertently "donated" to his political campaign. He could use or sell my private information He could be using my urine for nefarious purposes such as building a zombie army or creating weapons of mass destruction He could have some creepy pee fetish and I'll have encouraged him in his perversion I'm hoping it's a zombie army and not a pee fetish. :ack2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 HEre's a recent article. He claims the USPS has approved the urine packaging. http://www.nrtoday.com/news/11173721-113/robinson-urine-art-institute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropymama Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I guess mine isn't good enough, either, although I prefer to believe that Art sent me a handwritten personal request but it was lost in the mail. Did he send people a super-special sanitized urine receptacle to put it in? ;) This is my question! What are you supposed to put the pee in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luanne Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I had to look twice to make sure this post wasn't started by Spycar. I don't agree with all the hate sent his way. Try actually reading the article to see WHY he wants it before judging him so harshly. I think some people just like to cause controversy on here and like to hate certain people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I had to look twice to make sure this post wasn't started by Spycar. I don't agree with all the hate sent his way. Try actually reading the article to see WHY he wants it before judging him so harshly. I think some people just like to cause controversy on here and like to hate certain people. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't hate him. I was just joking about the silliness of the situation. If I got a request in the mail for pee, I would have started a thread about it, too! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I had to look twice to make sure this post wasn't started by Spycar. I don't agree with all the hate sent his way. Try actually reading the article to see WHY he wants it before judging him so harshly. I think some people just like to cause controversy on here and like to hate certain people. I will admit that I didn't actually fully read the flyer before I threw it out. I toss all junk mail. Also I do not hate the man. I honestly just found it humorous. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama27 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I had to look twice to make sure this post wasn't started by Spycar. I don't agree with all the hate sent his way. Try actually reading the article to see WHY he wants it before judging him so harshly. I think some people just like to cause controversy on here and like to hate certain people. I don't hate him and I've even tried homeschooling his way but this is really bizarre, to go around mailing fliers asking for people to send him their pee!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsior! Academy Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I don't know much about him, but anyone from the government asking me to mail my pee to them would not be met with willing compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I don't know much about him, but anyone from the government asking me to mail my pee to them would not be met with willing compliance. He is the head of the Republican party in Oregon, but he's not in government. He keeps trying though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfunnybunch Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I had to look twice to make sure this post wasn't started by Spycar. I don't agree with all the hate sent his way. Try actually reading the article to see WHY he wants it before judging him so harshly. I think some people just like to cause controversy on here and like to hate certain people. I think anyone who sends out flyers asking for pee will be met with a fair amount of joking and fun-poking. Asking random people to mail their urine is funny and sort of weird, no matter who asks, and even though he may have the best of intentions scientifically. :) Cat ETA: I feel a little left out because I didn't get a flyer myself. :P It's like when you don't get invited to a party that you would never go to if you were invited, but you'd still like to think you're one of the cool kids. Sigh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 ETA: I feel a little left out because I didn't get a flyer myself. :p It's like when you don't get invited to a party that you would never go to if you were invited, but you'd still like to think you're one of the cool kids. Sigh..... Move to Oregon........we are very cool. :coolgleamA: Or maybe you can write him a letter and request to be included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfunnybunch Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Move to Oregon........we are very cool. :coolgleamA: Or maybe you can write him a letter and request to be included. I live in Oregon. Maybe Art just doesn't like me. Or my urine, at least. I do eat a lot of asparagus. Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoxcell Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I live in Oregon. Maybe Art just doesn't like me. Or my urine, at least. I do eat a lot of asparagus. Cat That is quite the snub then. Maybe he hasn't gotten to your county yet. You can always hope right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivka Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Uh. Is there anything on the flyer indicating that the research is being monitored by an Institutional Review Board? Does anything explain whether your sample will be de-coupled from your personal health information, how your privacy will be protected, what will happen if your sample shows evidence of illness at some point in the future, what potential risks you undergo by participating in the study, and who will own anything valuable that's developed from the study of your urine? If not, it matters not one bit what we think of Robinson's politics. The research is unethical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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