misidawnrn Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 So, I have posted before that I am in college (again!) and I am taking an online writing class. Every 2 weeks we read about someone else, find their claims, rhetorical devices, etc... This week we are doing Plato's Allegory of a Cave (BLAHHHHHH!!!) Anyways, I just wanted to post a response from a fellow student that made me say "huh?" This is the typical kind of posting from this particular student and supposedly she was an honor student at her small high school and yes...English is her first language. :confused: Why are our public schools allowing this to pass 12th grade....heck, 3rd grade? I didn't change anything...just copied and pasted... for me i do not like the style. It makes it lease fluent, and the answers to Platos questions and short and it doesnt semm relivant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkacademy Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 WHAT???? What is that? That is crazy so sorry you have to take a class with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3lilreds in NC Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Oh, dear, dear me. That child needs to (a) USE A SPELL CHECKER and (b) remember that the spell checker isn't always right. Then, she needs to learn to capitalize. Ack, ack, ack. It makes me want to force my children to work through multiple grammar and spelling programs simultaneously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCyndiGirl Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Perhaps she thought that the subject matter was Play-Doh? :confused: :001_huh: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belacqua Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I had a response, but it didn't semm relivant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kchara Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 :001_huh: Honors student, huh? Hmm... and I was worried about doing a poor job with mine. Couldn't do any worse than her school, for sure! Geeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohdanigirl Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Is this really that common? Yikes. Don't get me wrong, I homeschool for academic reasons, but this is just horrible. I was in HP/AP classes, and those teachers were great. I felt my class mates were very intelligent, well spoken kids. Wow, have things gotten worse in the last 15 years? Maybe they were a lot of typos.:confused: Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misidawnrn Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 :001_huh: Honors student, huh? Hmm... and I was worried about doing a poor job with mine. Couldn't do any worse than her school, for sure! Geeze. I know!!! This student isn't fresh out of high school, she is married and has 3 kids. There is another student in the class that has grammar and spelling that is just as bad. We are supposed to respond back to so many posts a week. Too bad "huh???" isn't an adequate response.:001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misidawnrn Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 Is this really that common? Yikes. Don't get me wrong, I homeschool for academic reasons, but this is just horrible. I was in HP/AP classes, and those teachers were great. I felt my class mates were very intelligent, well spoken kids. Wow, have things gotten worse in the last 15 years? Maybe they were a lot of typos.:confused: Danielle There are 2 students in this class that post like this every.single.post. This is just one that was really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annlaura Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Oh my. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Is, "You need to learn to spell and use correct capitalization and punctuation if you don't want everyone thinking you're an idiot," appropriate response? DH had some doozies in his freshman English class last fall--none quite that bad, but close. He earned the appreciation of his professor by tutoring a large percentage of the class on their writing. The truly sad part was, he was in the class that rolls 2 semesters of freshman comp into 1 for English majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 "I cannot speak your England" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dulcimeramy Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 "I cannot speak your England" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvasMom Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 for me i do not like the style. It makes it lease fluent, and the answers to Platos questions and short and it doesnt semm relivant. :001_huh: Someone please get me a paper bag before I hyperventilate. *tic tic tic* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatMomof3 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 "I cannot speak your England" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility7 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Ohhhh yeah, I believe it. When I was in graduate school at Vanderbilt in 1993, I had to take a PhD statistics course. I was in the audiology program, but the Stats course was taken jointly with the grad students in Education. I befriended a couple of the Education grad students because they wanted help from me because they claimed they “were not good at mathâ€. Ok, happy to help. Well, they asked me to read their final papers for the class so that I could check their math for the statistics they used, and I about fell out of my chair because the grammar was so horrendous. I sooooo wish I had thought to make photocopies of those papers. They were truly unbelievably bad. Mind you, these were *experienced teachers*, getting *Master’s Degrees* from *Vanderbilt University*!!!! (And ironically, if they are "not good at math", and obviously NOT good at English, what exactly are they teaching their students?!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in CA Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I was absolutely despondent when I took an English class from our local college. If I had been teaching the class, I think I would have thrown myself in front of a bus rather than face the spelling, grammar, and composition skills of the "college students" in the class. In my opinion, they were nearly illiterate. :glare::confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyBC Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 My first thought was that she was typing that on her phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanceXToo Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I like posts like this. They make public school semm even less relivant which, in turn, makes me feel even better/confident about my decision to homeschool! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 So sad. I have a friend who tutors a new home schooler. She was a high honors student at the local high school. This kid can't string a decent sentence together, has no idea how to write a research paper and refuses to do draft and proofreading edits of her papers, most of which are plagiarized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie12345 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I would not be able to bite my tongue (or fingers, as it were). I am not perfect, and I often make silly mistakes, but that is just... offensive! I'd wind up pointing it out and risking the backlash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I saw some really sorry stuff in my Eng Lit classes two years ago. I ended up not trying on my papers (for that or history), because I felt sorry for the other people in the class. My profs both had to make rules about using smilies in papers. Smilies... in PAPERS. I could not imagine doing that in school.... So Tom Sawyer was like omg! And Huck was like :) And it was just crazy n stuff! I just hope it's the local CC and not something my kids will see elsewhere. It's a real bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Researcher Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 :001_huh: I really hope this was a result of typing on her phone.........but something tells me it's not.:glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidiyaDawn Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I'm sure that lady would feel wonderful if she knew that a fellow student was posting her stuff on a website so that other women could laugh and make fun of her. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazakaal Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 My profs both had to make rules about using smilies in papers. Smilies... in PAPERS. I could not imagine doing that in school.... So Tom Sawyer was like omg! And Huck was like :) And it was just crazy n stuff! I read your post quickly and initially thought, "Why wouldn't he want similies in papers?" Then I saw your example. :svengo: To the OP, that really is frightening, that she could even get into college with such poor writing abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 So sad. I have a friend who tutors a new home schooler. She was a high honors student at the local high school. This kid can't string a decent sentence together, has no idea how to write a research paper and refuses to do draft and proofreading edits of her papers, most of which are plagiarized. Source To some extent, the need for such a high degree of remedial coursework can be traced to poor standards in high schools. A 2008 study by the nonprofit Strong American Schools found that nearly four out of five remedial students had a high school GPA of 3.0 or higher. For these students, high schools failed to prepare them for college-level work and misled them about their abilities to succeed academically.:glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebug42 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 My sister used to teach Remedial English at the local community college. Some of the things she saw would make your eyes bleed. On the other hand, I have a friend that teaches English at another community college and she has mentioned on several occasions that her best students are always homeschoolers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I'm taking two online classes this semester and it's just sad. Most of the people in both of my classes submit essays and replies online just like your sample. My gov't professor sent me an email asking if she could tell the other students to read my essays and use them as an example. The very next week several of them didn't just use it as an example but plagiarised my most recent.:glare: Professor emailed me back she was giving them a pass on that week because she didn't think they understood.:001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCyndiGirl Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I'm sure that lady would feel wonderful if she knew that a fellow student was posting her stuff on a website so that other women could laugh and make fun of her. :( You have a very kind heart. But,....I just see this as a natural consequence. If a person is THAT unconcerned with spelling, grammar, etc....this sort of thing can happen. MY own typos have been quoted before. I wasn't angry. It HAS made me a bit more careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misidawnrn Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 I'm sure that lady would feel wonderful if she knew that a fellow student was posting her stuff on a website so that other women could laugh and make fun of her. :( I didn't post it to make fun of her but to shake my head at the quality of students that can still get into college! I so wish I could post back to her "use spell check at least...please!!!!" but I don't want to get in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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