OnTheBrink Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 With the ambiguity in the rules, I'm not sure if this counts as politics or not. Can someone with power let me know before I post the link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.S. Burrow Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I had to go Google your topic. There are so many things running around my mind right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueridge Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 <<W. Va. lawmaker wants to ban sale of Barbie dolls CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — Just in time for Barbie's 50th birthday, a West Virginia lawmaker wants to outlaw the doll. Democratic Delegate Jeff Eldridge is proposing to ban the sale of the Mattel doll and others like her in West Virginia. He says the dolls influence girls to place too much importance on physical beauty, at the expense of their intellectual and emotional development.>> Very interesting! I had no idea! :lurk5: Ginger (who is hoping this is not a political topic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabrett Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I don't get it. They have Barbies that are doctors, lawyers, teachers... Barbie has always been portrayed as a very smart and well educated. The Barbie movies are sweet and innocent. Actually, they are my favorite movies for my little girl to watch. A Barbie will never turn bad like an um..... Brittney Spears or Mary Kate and Ashley doll because she is based on fiction and not a real person. Ok, there might be barbies with tattoos, but Barbies like that are mostly collectors items (I'm thinking the Harley Davis Barbie) and are not bought for little girls to plays with, but by adults that like a particular subject. I own the XFiles' Fox and Scully dolls, but I don't let my dd play with them. My dd's Barbies are mostly mermaids, princesses and fairies. Bratz, on the other hand, I will not let into my house. I think they are ugly and seductive looking. I have this power as a parent. I exercise this power by not buying Bratz. If people don't like Barbies, then they aren't going to buy on for their child. It is not the governments job to regulate what toy I think my child should or should not play with. It is mine. If my neighbor wants to buy Bratz dolls for her dc, that is fine with me. But that does not mean I am going to try to ban them to try to protect my neighbor's dd with my person opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 He says the dolls influence girls to place too much importance on physical beauty, at the expense of their intellectual and emotional development.>> Be that as it may (not agreeing or disagreeing here), it's not a state's business to ban the sale of a doll on those grounds. It's not the state's job to parent my kids. I'll do that myself, thankyouverymuch. :glare: My girls do have Barbies, and I walk the same fine line as probably every other girl mom out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutor Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Be that as it may (not agreeing or disagreeing here), it's not a state's business to ban the sale of a doll on those grounds. It's not the state's job to parent my kids. I'll do that myself, thankyouverymuch. :glare: :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey in TX Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Good grief! In a state whose #37 educational rank is abysmal, one would think that Barbie's multitude of professional ideals might encourage little girls to be something more than the proverbial coal miner. Yes, the physical beauty is impossible to attain, but the careers she encourages are worthy of consideration. Not to mention in this economy should anyone, even a wealthy state, be recommending a ban of a profitable item? (Or is it a political ploy to encourage quick sales and a run on toy stores? LOL) SHEEESH, isn't there a more worthy political topic for their government to address? Poverty, education, unemployment, etc? Maybe the WV politicians are the bubble-headed bleach blondes? :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritaserum Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 That is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 OK to keep discussing. Moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 OK to keep discussing. Moderator Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plucky Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Good grief! In a state whose #37 educational rank is abysmal, one would think that Barbie's multitude of professional ideals might encourage little girls to be something more than the proverbial coal miner. Yes, the physical beauty is impossible to attain, but the careers she encourages are worthy of consideration. Not to mention in this economy should anyone, even a wealthy state, be recommending a ban of a profitable item? (Or is it a political ploy to encourage quick sales and a run on toy stores? LOL) SHEEESH, isn't there a more worthy political topic for their government to address? Poverty, education, unemployment, etc? Maybe the WV politicians are the bubble-headed bleach blondes? :tongue_smilie: Exactly. It seems like someone is deflecting from real issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harriet Vane Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Be that as it may (not agreeing or disagreeing here), it's not a state's business to ban the sale of a doll on those grounds. It's not the state's job to parent my kids. I'll do that myself, thankyouverymuch. :glare: :iagree: Not only is it not the job of the government, such a ban would actually erode our freedoms. People in this country are supposedly allowed to do business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katemary63 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Stay out of my toy box. I can't believe this will get far, it's silly. I agree - silly. This is the USA for heaven's sake. Where is he from, Russia?? Seriously, he should MYOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) HELLO. This is just a cheap stunt by a legislator who is abusing the legislative process to garner publicity to make a "point". Any legislator can "introduce" legislation, and this one is capitalizing on the Barbie anniversary and his understanding of how the "news-media" works to "make news", and rile a few people up in the process. But this is never going to be a law. Isn't intended to ever be a law, and wouldn't pass constitutional muster if it were passed (which it never will be). We don't need to cling to our Barbies. The government ain't comin' for 'em. This is one "joker" who figured out how to stir the pot. It's cheap politics, and this kind of stunt would likely cost a politician my future support, but I can see this for what it is. Bill Edited March 4, 2009 by Spy Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagsWife Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I see it for the stunt that it is. If I lived in WV, I would be livid that this guy is playing these kinds of games on my dime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 But what will Ken do? :001_huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim in Appalachia Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 :smilielol5: I'm not fond of Barbie, but banning her??! Really? Don't they have better issues to discuss in the WV legislature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey in TX Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 But what will Ken do? :001_huh: I think they divorced 10 years ago. I heard that on the news once. (HOnestly!) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 But what will Ken do? :001_huh: Move to San Francisco :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Move to San Francisco :lol: Oh, you are bad. :lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacia Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Not only the Ken question, but what about Barbie's house, her car, her airplane, her camper, her party-sized pool, .... Do those go back to the taxpayers? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen in PA Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 We are right on the border, so this is our local news..... I'm not a big fan of Barbie, but good grief! There are plenty of fingers to point when it comes to which role models are inappropriate for young women and girls, and most of them have more realistic proportions, a laundry list of lousy choices they've made, and publicists. I'm not too worried about a plastic doll that I can keep out of my house by simply saying "no." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen in PA Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Move to San Francisco :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Be that as it may (not agreeing or disagreeing here), it's not a state's business to ban the sale of a doll on those grounds. It's not the state's job to parent my kids. I'll do that myself, thankyouverymuch. :glare: What she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 HELLO. This is just a cheap stunt by a legislator who is abusing the legislative process to garner publicity to make a "point". Any legislator can "introduce" legislation, and this one is capitalizing on the Barbie anniversary and his understanding of how the "news-media" works to "make news", and rile a few people up in the process. But this is never going to be a law. Isn't intended to ever be a law, and wouldn't pass constitutional muster if it were passed (which it never will be). We don't need to cling to our Barbies. The government ain't comin' for 'em. This is one "joker" who figured out how to stir the pot. It's cheap politics, and this kind of stunt would likely cost a politician my future support, but I can see this for what it is. Bill What exactly is his point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 But what will Ken do? :001_huh: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey in TX Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Move to San Francisco :lol: ROFL This is an all-time Barbie low.:lol: Ken has always looked a little suspect. Maybe that's why Barbie has the freedom to pursue her personal career interests. He was busy pursuing other interests! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 What exactly is his point? He evidently feels such toys perpetuate unhealthy, unrealistic stereotypes for young girls and women: "I just hate the image that we give to our kids that if you’re beautiful, you’re beautiful, and you don’t have to be smart." What a dope :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I don't have boys, but I did have Barbies as a little girl. Are those dolls really any worse than the size 2 supermodels that young girls see all over the magazines and TV? Should they not also outlaw Britney Spears and humans of the like? Come on! How absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 He evidently feels such toys perpetuate unhealthy, unrealistic stereotypes for young girls and women: "I just hate the image that we give to our kids that if you’re beautiful, you’re beautiful, and you don’t have to be smart." What a dope :D Yes, because Barbie (the PLASTIC toy that she is) has gotten so far on looks alone. What a terrible role model she is. I mean, soon, little girls everywhere will be covering themselves in plastic trying to be more like her.... Sorry....couldn't stop the sarcasm this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Yes, because Barbie (the PLASTIC toy that she is) has gotten so far on looks alone. What a terrible role model she is. I mean, soon, little girls everywhere will be covering themselves in plastic trying to be more like her.... Sorry....couldn't stop the sarcasm this time. I forgot to include one of these :tongue_smilie: in my post, didn't I? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Move to San Francisco :lol: ROFL! Thank you for my laugh of the day! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Not only the Ken question, but what about Barbie's house, her car, her airplane, her camper, her party-sized pool, .... Do those go back to the taxpayers? ;) I call dibs on the convertible. Will there be an auction, you know like a police auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen in PA Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I call dibs on the convertible. Will there be an auction, you know like a police auction? If there's an auction, I'd be interested in the Malibu dream house:D I could use the extra bedrooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highereducation Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I hope this is not O/T, but not too long ago I happened across a story in a newspaper about Barbie and Ken. Something to the effect that the dolls' creator named the dolls in honor of the boss of Mattel's kids (?). Anyhoo, the real Ken had a hard time with it, got constantly teased and tortured by other kids, and ended up dying young in the early 90's. I don't like Barbie and dd doesn't own any Barbie dolls, but the story bummed me out anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kewb Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I had Barbies growing up. My dd has a couple of Barbies. It is a doll. If my dd grows up thinking of herself only as a boys plaything or that physical beauty is all that matters than that is my failure as a parent. I know I did not measure my self worth by comparing myself to a toy when I was a little girl. I have no desire to live in a Nanny State. It is my job to raise my dd to value herself not the State or Federal government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartIntact Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 But what will Ken do? :001_huh: A gigolo's gotta do what a gigolo's gotta do. He'll try to hook up with Bratz. Does Bratz have a pink convertible and townhouse? I can't deal with seeing the muscular handsome Ken reduced to cavorting around in a Tonka truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I had Barbies. I'm not a fan of them per se, but they are better than Bratz and such like. And you know what, I don't need the gov telling ME what is good for my kid and what is not. This is all going to start traipsing on what my child should and shouldn't wear (which is a religious issue for us) and our various faiths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5kidsforME Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 THey can't get rid of Barbie yet. They need to make an Octo Mom Barbie and finally put Barbies house to good use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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