Guest mangomegan Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 DS (6 y.o.) absolutely loves math. He has already finished all of the early math on Khan Academy, and we are anxious to get him started on somehting else. What I'd like to encourage with him is "thinking outside the box"--he's very detail-oriented and rigid. He's probably at around second grade math level. Right Start math? Open to any and all suggestions :) Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wapiti Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Beast Academy would be the obvious recommendation, though that begins at 3rd grade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doubleblessings Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 For that age you might try Miquon, and then Beast when he is older. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Beast Academy, and then later AoPS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsunshine Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I think Miquon or RightStart would be great for now. Then Beast Academy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 CSMP then Beast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeaganS Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 MEP as another option. Also Miquon. Both are very "different" but really awesome. :) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulycrabby Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Miquon then AOPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 So, not a curriculum, but I've been supplementing RightStart with Highlights MathMania and a variety of living math books. If Khan is working for you and you would like to keep it, then there are lots of options for outside the box math without changing your entire approach. In addition to MathMania and living books, there are Math Kangaroo practice problems, Zaccaro's Primary Grades Challenge Math, and other options I'm not remembering at the moment. While I really like RightStart and I find their approach to math to be different than what is typically taught, I do not think they are out of the box. RightStart is straightforward math taught differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiana Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I think CSMP, MEP, or Miquon could all work really well for pre-Beast. I'd probably look through CSMP and MEP first because they're free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caviar Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 What do CSMP and MEP stand for? I have a similar situation with my 7 year old. He's learned almost all his math facts already - most without any help! He's always asking me math questions throughout the day - I need to keep him challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 What do CSMP and MEP stand for?CSMPhttp://stern.buffalostate.edu/CSMPProgram/ MEP http://www.cimt.plymouth.ac.uk/projects/mepres/primary/ ETA: For some fun Canada Math Kangaroo 1st-2nd grade questions 2013 https://kangaroo.math.ca/samples/2013/2013gr0102e.pdf 2014 https://kangaroo.math.ca/samples/2014/2014gr0102e.pdf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 He's probably ready for Hands-On Equations and Zacarro's Primary Challenge Math. You might also go another direction and do stem and building math. He could do some of the middle grade K'nex science kits (like I'm using with my ds) and explore the math, even just conceptually. So, for instance last week we were using the gears kit and built a crank fan and explored the difference the size of the gears made, the number of teeth, compared the ratios of the speeds (crank: fan), etc. The cds in the kit will take it farther, with the equations and exploration questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Miquon! Miquon! MEP is another option. Beast when he's just a little older. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandra Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Miquon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pehp Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Definitely Miquon, although it could be frustrating for a child w/ a rigid-thinking personality. (It is for mine...but we still use it. His conceptual understanding is amazing.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arliemaria Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Zometools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I agree with Jackie, RightStart is straightforward taught differently. Although, if you think that out of the box is something taught different than the traditional algorithms/textbook approach, then RS would be out of the box. And, it really teaches the 'why' behind the concepts. The author of RS has degrees in both engineering and mathematics education, with a focus on Montessori. It would then follow that her curriculum would be from that perspective. While completing all levels of RS, we supplement with Beast Academy once the kids were either finished or were mostly through RS level C, with plans to move into AoPS as soon as oldest is done with level G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mangomegan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Thanks, everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Miquon. Trust it, use it, don't give up on it. My so loved it so much and I truly wish I had stuck with that this was a long time ago but it's still awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
................... Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Miquon. Trust it, use it, don't give up on it. My so loved it so much and I truly wish I had stuck with that this was a long time ago but it's still awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisabees Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Agree with MEP and Miquon!!! DD called MEP Puzzle Math. It was great fun and she still uses it to supplement AoPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Miquon and Gattegno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Since your DS is just 6yo, I'll chime in with another vote for Miquon. It is discovery-based which totally helps lead towards making math connections and "outside the box" thinking. It is set up as 6 workbooks, each with workbook pages of increasing difficulty on a range of math topics. That way, you can use it as a mastery-based program (pick a math topic and follow it from workbook to workbook), or spiral-based (start with the first workbook and work through the different topics, then move to the next workbook, which "spirals" back to those topics and takes them further). My biggest suggest would be for all of your elementary grades and for as long as you manage it: Use two math programs, each coming at the math topics from very different points of view. It's one of the best ways to encourage math thinking, making math connections, and thinking outside the box, because it helps the student see there is more than one way to get to the answer, or more than one way to see how the concept works, or fits in with other concepts. Also, starting about 3rd grade these programs emphasize problem-solving, which provides lots of opportunities for thinking outside the box: - Beast Academy - Singapore - Math Mammoth - Life of Fred If you opt to do two math programs, here are some of the "big names" broken into very general categories, to help select two from different categories: traditional - Saxon - Teaching Textbooks - Horizons - Rod and Staff - Khan Academy Asian-based - Miquon (which is also discovery-based) - Singapore - Math Mammoth Other - Math-U-See (visual/hands-on "big picture" explanations of concepts through teaching videos and rods) - Life of Fred (math uses and problem solving in real-life stories -- can give purpose to math for non-mathy students) - Right Start (use of abacus and games) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
displace Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Quick miquon question - for someone looking to use it as a supplement should I start with the first book or more advanced? DS didn't really like cuisinaire rods as a manipulative but with such rave reviews I may give it a fair shake to our routine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisabees Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I can't link right now, but do use Education Unboxed videos. DD loved those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewelma Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 MEP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 ladybugs Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I didn't see it listed so I will throw it out there, Shiller Math has taught me how to think outside the box a bit. It is organized in a way that seems very logical to me. It is also very heavy on internalizing math and not just rote memorization. I am probably not explaining it well but it is a great program and one that is under mentioned/valued if you ask me. I am not sure where your son would fall with it, but there are free placement tests online that you can give him. ETA It also builds on what your child already knows and doesn't make him repeat it. If your child has already mastered a topic but is weak in another, you don't have to do it to get through the book. It is very, "do what your child needs" type of program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umsami Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 For those of you mentioning Miquon, do you have any websites/videos to recommend? I remember buying the orange book, the first grade diary, and I'm not sure what else...and I never really figured it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 For those of you mentioning Miquon, do you have any websites/videos to recommend? I remember buying the orange book, the first grade diary, and I'm not sure what else...and I never really figured it out. The Education Unboxed videos by Rosie might be helpful to watch with your student, to see how to discover concepts with the rods. And the Liping Ma's book, Knowing and Teaching Elementary Mathematics, might be helpful in explaining not only the philosophy that undergirds Miquon, but give you a great foundation for teaching math to your DC. I also think that there are some "mysterious" pages in the first part of the Orange workbook, but after that, the "how do you do this" is much more clear, and once you use Miquon for a few months, the way of thinking starts "clicking" for you. At least, that was my experience. ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeaganS Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 For those of you mentioning Miquon, do you have any websites/videos to recommend? I remember buying the orange book, the first grade diary, and I'm not sure what else...and I never really figured it out. If you still need help, the gattegno books use a similar method with more handholding. Just search for threads on here (sorry, I'm on my phone or I'd do it for you) for a link to his first book in its entirety. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacell Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 From what I've heard: Miquon, MEP, Beast Academy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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