Jump to content


What's with the ads?

Photo
* * * * - 1 votes

Has anyone used a natural supplement to help their child with anxiety?


28 replies to this topic

What's with the ads?

#1 mama2cntrykids

mama2cntrykids

    Hive Mind Queen Bee

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 2064 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:35 PM

My 10 yr. old ds is REALLY struggling with anxiety/stress.  I would understand if they were huge stressors, but it's seemingly small things that he stresses about.

 

I really don't want to put him on prescription meds, if I can avoid it. 

 

I'm sure there are others out there that have dealt with anxiety in their children.  What would you recommend?

 

 



#2 Lisa in Jax

Lisa in Jax

    Easily Amused.

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 1357 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:03 PM

Do some reading to see if zinc, GABA and/or 5-htp might be helpful.

 

You might also try an elimination diet to see if food intolerances are causing/adding to anxiety.

 

In my son's case, the "cure" for his adhd/anxiety was zinc, probiotics, removing gluten, and eventually, a low dose of Intuniv.  

 

Lisa

 

 

 

 



#3 xixstar

xixstar

    Hive Mind Level 2 Worker: Nurse Bee

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 1412 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:36 PM

I would recommend this book: The Antianxiety Food Solution: How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings

http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/1572249250

It isn't child specific but has some good starting points as well. For heavy supplements, I would want to talk with a naturopath or someone more knowledgeable in supplements but perhaps some of the food suggestions would be helpful.
  • Alexigail and Paradox5 like this

#4 whitestavern

whitestavern

    Hive Mind Queen Bee

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3256 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:02 PM

My son takes Natural Calm

 

http://www.vitacost....raspberry-lemon

 

He takes it nightly after dinner/before bed.  When he first went on it, we started with a smaller dosage and worked our way up, as it does have a laxative effect for many people.


  • Alexigail and NicAnn like this

#5 amo_mea_filiis.

amo_mea_filiis.

    Empress Bee

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 6949 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:20 PM

My son has more than anxiety going on. So far, he's not had a successful medication trial (he reacts either allergic or poor behavior) so we're going back to supplements only.

He currently takes:

Smarty pants multivitamin

Spectrum awakening by metabolic maintenance

Calming cream (back rub at night) by neurobiologix

Children's dha by Nordic naturals

Pharmacy brand fish oil

It is helping him! Prior to behaviors brought on (I'm fairly sure) by Zoloft, he was completing school without much hassle, his cursing is nearly gone, showering and eating without tantrums, and a ton more.

He will not be trying another medication for a long time. In a month or two he should be at full dose with these supplements and I'll know for sure if it's working.
  • Janeway and amoore2428 like this

#6 gardenmom5

gardenmom5

    Amateur Bee Keeper

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18523 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:36 PM

I take my son to a naturopath.

 

he takes

1000mg GABA 2x per day (my ND would prefer I did 500mg pharmaGABA from thorne 3x per day.  pharmaGABA is a more bioavailable form - but pricey and 500mg is the max dose so it usually only comes in low dose capsules.)

200mg L-theanine in the am

those are what he takes specifically for anxiety.

 

my older son also takes l-tyrosine for anxiety.

 

everyone takes methylcobalamin b12 sublingals and a good b complex (I do emerald labs b healthy.) which affect anxiety.

 

I have also removed nitrates from his diet


  • AnneBlessedx4 likes this

#7 Ipsey

Ipsey

    Hive Mind Royal Larvae

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 1495 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:06 PM

You might also consider some classes in meditation for kids/teens. Mindfulness and meditation can help reduce anxiety by helping a person to refocus and not react so strongly to stressors, by realizing what is actually going on.

 

I just finished a 10 week course on mindfuless for anxiety and it was great. If he had a daily practice, it might be a great thing.


  • Joanne, MBM, soror and 3 others like this

#8 Alexigail

Alexigail

    Just Visiting

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 958 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:52 PM

Seconding Natural Calm.  I take it too.


  • NicAnn likes this

#9 Ottakee

Ottakee

    Amateur Bee Keeper

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10144 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 09:56 PM

We use Country Life Omega 3 Mood which seems to "grease" the nervous system and magnesium.  We do use Rx medication on an "as needed" basis for severe anxiety.

 



#10 mama2cntrykids

mama2cntrykids

    Hive Mind Queen Bee

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 2064 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 09:56 PM

Thanks for the replies. He currently takes zinc, fish oil, ginko, b6, and magnesium. He's been taking them for concentration, and they're working. Now I need to work on the poor kids stress. Every little thing stresses him out. I try to be understanding, but I get fed up. Maybe I will find a homeopathy in the area.



#11 Cera

Cera

    Hive Mind Queen Bee

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 2295 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:03 PM

It's not a supplement but CBT has really helped my anxious kid learn to handle her stress.
  • Lisa in Jax, VeganCupcake and Sadie like this

#12 VeganCupcake

VeganCupcake

    Hive Mind Royal Larvae

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 1325 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:47 PM

It's not a supplement but CBT has really helped my anxious kid learn to handle her stress.

 

Yes, definitely explore Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It's really a life skill, a different way of thinking about and looking at thoughts and feelings. There's a great book based on CBT principles called Freeing Your Child from Anxiety by Tamar Chansky. It gives suggestions of activities and techniques that you can teach to a child from preschool age to teen to help them manage their feelings. It's a tool I wish I had had a lot earlier in my life, since I was a very anxious child. I have taught my DD some of the techniques with good success.


  • Sadie likes this

#13 Pixjen

Pixjen

    Headmistress of Our Lady of Perpetual Yelling

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 264 posts

Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:15 PM

My son doesn't have anxiety, but I have had panic and anxiety attacks for the last 15 yrs. The cause can vary from emotional to environmental, which is why finding the root cause, if at all possible, is desirable. Perscriptions just relieve the symptoms, but don't heal.

In my case, therapy plus cognitive behavior modification helped, along with eating a cleaner diet. Then I started using YL essential oils and they relived the remaining symptoms. I still have a few triggers, but since I usually know when to expect them, I apply oils ahead of time and it's not a problem. I do carry a bottle of Stress Away in my purse, just in case I need it. :)

If it were my child, I would closely observe his/her environment and start making lists. What kinds of products are they using on their bodies? Sadly, most soaps, shampoos and other HBAs are quite toxic. What kinds of foods do are they eating regularly? Do they seem more anxious after eating certain types of foods? How much processed foods are they eating? What are they drinking. Are they drinking enough water? Most ppl are chronically dehydrated but not realize it. Blood becomes thicker when dehydrated and may not be moving toxins out of the body quickly. Many drinks today are also nothing more than chemicals.

It can be a long process, but if you are able to figure out if there are any environmental factor and remove them, that will probably help a lot. Other Young Living essential oils that are helpful with nerves and anxiety are Lavender and Valor.

#14 ManagerMom

ManagerMom

    Hive Mind Queen Bee

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 2445 posts

Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:30 AM

We use tryptophan with some other supplements.  I wanted my child off the SSRI drug.  Tryptophan works to create serotonin which is what the anxious brain is lacking.  You can research it.  PM me if you want more details on what we use. 


  • amoore2428 likes this

#15 Joanne

Joanne

    Owned by 3 teens

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11330 posts

Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:45 AM

Thanks for the replies. He currently takes zinc, fish oil, ginko, b6, and magnesium. He's been taking them for concentration, and they're working. Now I need to work on the poor kids stress. Every little thing stresses him out. I try to be understanding, but I get fed up. Maybe I will find a homeopathy in the area.

 

 

I'd encourage you to stop associating "stress" or "stressors" with anxiety and whether it is understandable or not.

 

Anxiety is (like depression) a brain dysfunction issue. There is something wrong with the brain. To try to manage life in a way to prevent anxiety (or depression) misses the mark medically. It may also add to the anxiety in making the human who suffers with it feel they lack something (coping skills, etc.)


  • Lizzie in Ma, MBM, Ipsey and 3 others like this

#16 Ipsey

Ipsey

    Hive Mind Royal Larvae

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 1495 posts

Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:29 AM

I'd encourage you to stop associating "stress" or "stressors" with anxiety and whether it is understandable or not.

 

Anxiety is (like depression) a brain dysfunction issue. There is something wrong with the brain. To try to manage life in a way to prevent anxiety (or depression) misses the mark medically. It may also add to the anxiety in making the human who suffers with it feel they lack something (coping skills, etc.)

 

This was something very encouraging I learned in my mindfulness and anxiety class. When I tried to identify the reasons why I was anxious--I had to identify them as "silly". I knew they were silly. They're "silly" "small" things. It's my reaction to them, the unintentional way my mind and body react to these "not very big" issues that's difficult and debilitating. 

 

It's not about "stressors" so much, it's a condition that's making my mind and body respond to these "small" things in non-healthy ways.  I don't want to react in this way to things that used to roll right off my back...but I do.

 

It makes you frustrated to "understand" the stressors because your son isn't reacting to them like a person with a healthy system would--that's why it's hard for you to get. I'm not chiding you, but rather sympathizing and hopefully helping you to get a different perspective.  It's sort of like not understanding allergies. "I don't understand why peanuts make this person's airway constrict". . . you just have to realize that they do.   :)


  • Joanne, Minniewannabe and Rebel Yell like this

#17 MBM

MBM

    Hive Mind Queen Bee

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3389 posts

Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:52 AM

Besides practicing mindfulness meditation, which is about physically redefining areas of the brain, and CBT, acupuncture could be helpful, too. My youngest tried this for the first time recently for a stiff neck and some mild persistent acne. He loved it and said that he has never felt that calm and alert at the same time. We're going to keep doing the treatments to see how they work.


  • Joanne likes this

#18 Attolia

Attolia

    Empress Bee

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3433 posts

Posted 29 August 2013 - 05:48 PM

I haven't read all of the replies but I strongly suggest an elimination diet.  Also, is this child on allergy meds?  Some allergy meds cause my child to have major anxiety.



#19 Twinmom

Twinmom

    Hive Mind Queen Bee

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 2076 posts

Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:45 PM

We used prescription meds here, but supplement with True Calm by NOW and also their GABA. Works great in combination. Frankly, I often take them myself and they really smooth out the edges, even in an adult.

#20 amoore2428

amoore2428

    Just Visiting

  • Members
  • 1 posts

Posted 05 May 2017 - 06:46 PM

I know this is an old post but I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for anxiety in kids. I did a trial run on zoloft and feel that it has brought out more bad behaviors then positive. I will be looking to stop the zoloft. Now I am trying to find something that will help with his anxiety. I have started the Smarty Pants Vitamins recently and was wondering if there is something else I should start? Thanks!



#21 gardenmom5

gardenmom5

    Amateur Bee Keeper

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18523 posts

Posted 05 May 2017 - 08:11 PM

I know this is an old post but I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for anxiety in kids. I did a trial run on zoloft and feel that it has brought out more bad behaviors then positive. I will be looking to stop the zoloft. Now I am trying to find something that will help with his anxiety. I have started the Smarty Pants Vitamins recently and was wondering if there is something else I should start? Thanks!

 

 
under the guidance of a naturopath, I use supplements that have been very helpful with dudeling's anxiety.  I buy off amazon - they deliver.  price is roughly the same, but you can price it around.

 

no substitutions (the douglas ashwagandha is much more concentrated for withaniloids than other brands.)

douglas laboratories ashwagandha  2 @ am/pm (4 total)  combined with pure encapsulations bacopa monnieri.   1 @ am/pm 

the difference was amazing - and noticable at 1/2 dose. 

we also do nordic naturals proomega/ultimate omega (they're the same) - @ am/pm.

for aggression - NAC was amazing.  he's at 200mg am/pm, but you can try less or more (depending upon weight.)  I also had to ban nitrates, and HFCS (heavy metals - mercury)

 

are you giving kids smarty pants or adults?  they really don't have much in them and I have reservations about the form of b6 they use.   I used rainbow light (comes in a chewable gummy) then when he started swallowing pills, switched to emerald laboratories (I bought the 4 a day, and only gave him two. most cost effective than buying the 1 or 2)



#22 1GirlTwinBoys

1GirlTwinBoys

    Hive Mind Queen Bee

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 1925 posts

Posted 05 May 2017 - 11:05 PM

I was going to suggest a 100% gluten elimination diet.  You would see a difference fairly quickly if you can completely keep him off of gluten.  



#23 Slartibartfast

Slartibartfast

    Reality is frequently inaccurate

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14712 posts

Posted 06 May 2017 - 12:22 AM

I like Natural Calm, it helps me and my dd sleep



#24 wintermom

wintermom

    Hive Mind Level 6 Worker: Scout Bee

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 5133 posts

Posted 06 May 2017 - 07:27 AM

Do you have a trusted doctor, pediatrician or other health professional you are working with on behalf of your son.  Not all dr push drugs only, they would have a number of well-researched suggestions and information available.  



#25 maize

maize

    Maizgyver

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17399 posts

Posted 06 May 2017 - 08:29 AM

The very best supplement is lots of exercise.
  • Barb_ likes this

#26 Barb_

Barb_

    Master of None

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 9351 posts

Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:19 AM

Regular exercise really does help chronic anxiety. Fish oil, if you aren't taking it already is great for so many things, including the nervous system. My daughter who is prone to anxiety will take Passion flower capsules or drink Passion flower tea before bed. None of it is going to help as much a meds, but you won't have side effects either. Anxiety can be managed but it takes a lot of consistent effort.
  • gardenmom5 likes this

#27 Barb_

Barb_

    Master of None

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 9351 posts

Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:21 AM

Just saw he was ten. It's a great time to start teaching guided meditation. I like the app "Breathe" as it gives you meditations directed toward how you are feeling at that moment.
  • Minniewannabe likes this

#28 wapiti

wapiti

    Apprentice Bee Keeper

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11423 posts

Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:27 AM

I know this is an old post but I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for anxiety in kids. I did a trial run on zoloft and feel that it has brought out more bad behaviors then positive. I will be looking to stop the zoloft. Now I am trying to find something that will help with his anxiety. I have started the Smarty Pants Vitamins recently and was wondering if there is something else I should start? Thanks!

 

Smarty Pants includes methylated B12 which is better than the stuff in other multivitamins (better than cyanocobalamin), but some kids can't handle the methyl donors.

 

I'm finally getting back around to this for a couple of my kiddos who happen to have MTHFR polymorphisms.  They need B supplementation but I haven't found hydroxycobalamin or methylcobalamin to be useful, nor folate (5-MTHF).  I think I'm going to get Seeking Health B-minus so I can get them some Bs without B12, which they're not ready for.  I'm not sure on dose though; I tend not to give full capsules of Thorne products; I'll probably split them up with empty capsules.

 

Smarty Pants also includes Vitamin D, which can exacerbate problems for some kids, as it definitely does for one of mine.  In his case, bloodwork shows low vitamin D, but high calcitriol.  Calcitriol is actually D3, and he has a homozygous mutation for the vitamin D receptor; he just can't absorb the stuff.  So we avoid vitamin D supplementation for him.

 

Just my two cents :)


Edited by wapiti, 06 May 2017 - 10:42 AM.

  • Barb_ likes this

#29 Slartibartfast

Slartibartfast

    Reality is frequently inaccurate

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14712 posts

Posted 06 May 2017 - 11:04 PM

Regular exercise really does help chronic anxiety. Fish oil, if you aren't taking it already is great for so many things, including the nervous system. My daughter who is prone to anxiety will take Passion flower capsules or drink Passion flower tea before bed. None of it is going to help as much a meds, but you won't have side effects either. Anxiety can be managed but it takes a lot of consistent effort.

 

This is correct,

 

There is quite a bit of research into executive function and exercise and it does help such issues.


  • maize likes this