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I was told if I would eat organic wheat by one person (an organic agronomist) that I wouldn't have problems with it.

 

Another person told me if I didn't eat any GMO wheat (doesn't exsist...) or any GMO product (especially corn) I wouldn't have gluten issues. I told her, "Really? I just ate Triple-stack, Round-up ready sweet corn and it didn't bother me..."

 

I wish my autoimmune issues were that easy to fix.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like alternative medicine choices and living/eating healthy but some people really lack (or refuse to see) common sense.

There's a case of someone not understanding celiac versus intolerance. Someone with celiac can never eat gluten. However, there has been documented cases of people who are intolerant, but find they can eat wheat in Europe (GMO ban). Those people don't have celiac, but they can't eat US wheat products.

 

I wish people would be informed before they try to inform others.

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Sniffing some essential oils, a glass of ACV with a clove of garlic and some ginger, two spoonfuls of biodynamically grown vegetables, high dose of D-3 and Yoga make you practically immortal. Don't know why people are still passing on...

 

 

I actually do believe in a naturopathic meds and trying less invasive routes first, but...whenever someone makes extreme claims about one thing, well, you know....

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So what do you say to these people? It gets very tiring.

 

"Thank you. We'll keep it under consideration."

 

Then change the subject or move on to someone else. If they start pushing too hard, I tell them to stop and not bring it up again. But I'm the blunt type, and that usually does it. 

 

I appreciate that they want to help, but if they knew the flood of advice we're receiving and how hard it is to manage as it is. If they knew what our medical bills are on an ongoing basis, they'd see the folly of recommending expensive treatments that aren't at all likely to help. Sunday someone recommended an approach that we've already tried that would cost $2,000-3,000.  Really?

 

Some years ago I decided that it's just part of wanting to fix things for some people. They don't like ambiguity and chronic problems, and they want to fix them. Sorry, but some things don't work that way. Sunday one of the leaders in our church cornered me and asked why I hadn't called a certain specialist that we've see before. I already had, and the appointment was already set up. Frankly I didn't appreciate someone questioning me that way. Be kind and ask if I had considered X, but don't ask why I'm not trying X when I already am.

 

I also hate that I'm defined by my relatives' medical problems. It's rare person who asks about me or other things in our lives. A few do, but mostly it's about medical stuff.

 

I actually told my teens this morning that we're going in separate cars on Sunday. I'll go to the first service and come home. I'm not up to a lot of questioning now.

 

Anyway, rant over. But that's how it goes!

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Apple cider vinegar is a great basic health tonic for the body, research is clear on that. It can also aide in assisting *some* digestive conditions. I hate it when people oversell something, because unless you're dealing with bacterial issues instead of autoimmune it won't do jack for that.

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I started telling people what it felt like to throw up crackers. I asked if they wanted my rankings of foods to vomit. 

 

Doritos are THE WORST.

 

Broccoli is a close second.

Just had to throw that out there. Pregnant ladies, I don't care WHAT your cravings tell you, if you are nauseated DO NOT EAT DORITOS.

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That kind of stuff is starting to drive me bonkers.  My dh has chronic pain problems that can all be solved by diet changes and essential oils.  

 

While I DO believe that what we put in our body can have some profound effects, it is exhausting to have every person in your life asking repeatedly if you've tried the latest XYZ.  

 

One of my favorites -- there's an essential oil mix that is called "morphine bomb."

 

We tried it multiple times, and there's no comparison to the real deal.

 

There are also several cases that a pain specialist showed me where that mix caused significant circulatory problems. He's very aware of alternative approaches that can help, but that's one's a disaster in his book.

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Doritos is THE WORST.

 

Broccoli is a close second.

Just had to throw that out there. Pregnant ladies, I don't care WHAT your cravings tell you, if you are nauseated DO NOT EAT DORITOS.

 

Oh boy. That brought back horrible memories. Glad those days are past...

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Doritos are THE WORST.

 

Broccoli is a close second.

Just had to throw that out there. Pregnant ladies, I don't care WHAT your cravings tell you, if you are nauseated DO NOT EAT DORITOS.

 

Just lick them. Not that I've ever done that with Cool Ranch Doritos. Nope. Not me.

 

Scrambled eggs. Shudder.

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Doritos are THE WORST.

 

Broccoli is a close second.

Just had to throw that out there. Pregnant ladies, I don't care WHAT your cravings tell you, if you are nauseated DO NOT EAT DORITOS.

Yes. 100%. Throwing up Doritos was one of the worst experiences of my first pregnancy.

 

Never. Again.

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I don't see that as giving medical advice.  I see it as sharing a personal anecdote, and don't feel a need to shut anyone down.  You never know what you might hear.  If something worked for someone, I just rejoice with that person. 

 

It becomes offensive when you're trying everything and consulting professionals and someone who isn't close enough to you to fully understand what is happening makes suggestions. Those giving suggestions often make those receiving the suggestions feel like they aren't trying hard enough or doing the right thing. No one cares more about healing the person involved than his or her family members (or self!). For example, someone told me my dad's stage 4 lung cancer could be cured by vitamin C and wanted to know why we weren't using it, as though we were refusing something that could save his life. It was insulting. 

 

Just lick them. Not that I've ever done that with Cool Ranch Doritos. Nope. Not me.

 

Scrambled eggs. Shudder.

 

Uggghhh. Eggs are the worst. 

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I don't see that as giving medical advice.  I see it as sharing a personal anecdote, and don't feel a need to shut anyone down.  You never know what you might hear.  If something worked for someone, I just rejoice with that person. 

 

Maybe sometimes  But I do have to question someone's um I dunno something or other when they believe in all sorts of "interesting" things. 

 

And then it can get downright dumb.  Like the time someone told my mother she should use shark fin pills because they can cure her cancer. 

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I've been told a number of things about my food allergy kid. I've been told he wouldn't be allergic to dairy if he drank raw milk because it didn't have lactose. Swell considering he's deathly allergic to casein and whey. Lactose is not his issue. I've also been told he's cured because he's fine so long as he doesn't eat his allergy foods. That's not exactly the definition of cured.

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Apparently, all I have to do is take 1/2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar and my Celiac will somehow magically go away.  The woman who told me this was 100% serious.  I just kind of nodded and said something about working in a health food store when I was a teenager.  She said, "Oh, then you know all about the wonders of ACV!"

 

I've had people on-line tell me everything from essential oils to eating lots and lots of wheat will cure Celiac, but this was the first time someone in real life told me a magic "cure."

 

I've posted this before but I feel I need to share again. This woman is wrong. The CORRECT way to cure celiac is to fast for a month in harmony with the moon cycle while doing daily enemas. The woman who told me this was dead certain it would work. I only needed to do it correctly. 

 

But then according to another woman I need to take this magical homeopathic nose spray. She didn't know what was in the spray just that her friend cured her celiac with the spray. I implored the woman to share this discovery with the scientific community! 

 

Oh, and eat organic wheat. Then you won't have a reaction to the gluten. Organic is KEY. 

 

Snort. Gotta love people who know better than entire international bodies of scientists and doctors. It gets so old and exhausting.   :thumbdown:

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Chiropractor in a nearby town can cure dyslexia with ultrasonic waves :001_huh: . I had a specialist tell me that one and I know what my face said to that.

 

My personal favorite- I had only been right with God DS would not have autism ( said by a relative).

OMG to both of those stories.
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I don't see that as giving medical advice.  I see it as sharing a personal anecdote, and don't feel a need to shut anyone down.  You never know what you might hear.  If something worked for someone, I just rejoice with that person. 

 

Never in the history of the world has anyone been cured of HIV by drinking raw milk, and if someone who sells raw milk makes that claim, that is fraud, and it's against the law. The person is not just sharing a friendly anecdote.

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Apple cider vinegar works best when combined with essential oils. They work best if rubbed on the feet but diffusing them through the air can also do the trick.

 

My brand are the only truly pure ones, I'll give you a special deal if you order six months' worth ;)

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Apple cider vinegar works best when combined with essential oils. They work best if rubbed on the feet but diffusing them through the air can also do the trick.

 

My brand are the only truly pure ones, I'll give you a special deal if you order six months' worth ;)

 

Will it work best if I buy a 10 year supply from you?

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Apple cider vinegar works best when combined with essential oils. They work best if rubbed on the feet but diffusing them through the air can also do the trick.

 

My brand are the only truly pure ones, I'll give you a special deal if you order six months' worth ;)

 

LOL.

 

I am defusing an essential oil blend right now for sinus congestion. Plain old, ordinary sinus congestion. It works well for me.

 

But do I sell it? No. Do I think it will deal with anything more than a simple stuffy nose. No. I even discussed it with my allergy doctor, and she was in full agreement. I can't think of a time when I've recommended it for anything but what I use it for.

 

I'm not against alternative medicine. But everything has it's place.

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I started telling people what it felt like to throw up crackers. I asked if they wanted my rankings of foods to vomit. 

Watermelon is by far the best food to vomit. 

 

 

 

I believe diet for celiac is a natural cure. I've heard rumblings about research for a drug, but why add a drug to your system when you can get all the nutrition you need by following a diet.

 

A lot of people are tauting ACV now. I haven't seen any relevant explanations to go with it.

 

Years ago someone on the old board told me I must not want to cure my dd of celiac if I didn't do something trendy then (I can't remember what). And other posters piled on. It was weird.

 

Except, diet not a cure. It's a *treatment*. As you know celiac never goes away. By adhering to the diet you are not cured. You are simply symptom free. You are still at higher risk for certain cancers and still at risk of developing other autoimmune disorders.

 

As to why a drug? To eliminate the very real and awful risk of cross contamination during everyday life. So people with celiac can enjoy eating a meal at a restaurant and not have to freakishly worry about a crumb of gluten getting in their meal. So a celiac can enjoy a large family/friend BBQ potluck and not worry about whether the tomatoes were sliced on a cutting board that was also used for bread, or not have to worry about the grill being contaminated by the gluten containing BBQ sauce on the ribs made earlier. Or have to worry about someone using the same serving spoon for the potato salad that he just used for the noodle salad. Or get sick from kissing someone who drank a beer. Or get sick from eating a food that didn't used to contain gluten but now does and she didn't read the label. To be able to go on vacation and not have to stress about how, where, and what she can eat. Because getting sick from cross contamination is frustrating, depressing, awful physically, and increases risk of complications like cancer or thyroid problems. That's why I support a drug to help treat celiac.   

 

 

 

Ok, well you can simply mock her.

 

Or you can give it a try, and get your own evidence regarding your own body.

 

I would do the latter, myself.  If it doesn't work, oh well....you have lost nothing but the price of a small bottle of this stuff.  If it happens to work for you, great.  If it happens to work even a little bit, you are still better off than today.

 

That is how I look at these low-risk kinds of things; if they come to my attention, why not give it a try?  There is no risk to trying something like this, unless you happen to be allergic.   

 

I'm all for trying easy potential fixes before harder ones.

 

And I am sorry you have this issue. 

 

 

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 You clearly know nothing about celiac if you think trying ACV just to see if it works is harmless. There is no "let's just give this a try....okay I'll eat some wheat and see if I get sick." Eating gluten when you have celiac is never "harmless"

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 You clearly know nothing about celiac if you think trying ACV just to see if it works is harmless. There is no "let's just give this a try....okay I'll eat some wheat and see if I get sick." Eating gluten when you have celiac is never "harmless"

 

Yeah my guess is there are too many hobby celiac sufferers floating around.  So probably ACV works for them. 

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Did you know that coffee enemas, performed daily, will cure learning disabilities? LOL

 

 

No, you cure them by putting a piece of colored cellophane on top of whatever you read.  Or maybe it's Scientology that cures them.  

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Apparently, all I have to do is take 1/2 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar and my Celiac will somehow magically go away.  The woman who told me this was 100% serious.  I just kind of nodded and said something about working in a health food store when I was a teenager.  She said, "Oh, then you know all about the wonders of ACV!"

 

I've had people on-line tell me everything from essential oils to eating lots and lots of wheat will cure Celiac, but this was the first time someone in real life told me a magic "cure."

 

That is wonderful! Congratulations! In related news, "just getting over it and looking on the positive side" cures depression, and breastmilk cures eczema.

 

Honestly, with so many easy cures around, it's a wonder people still have problems.

 

Re: Coffee enemas, I realize that enemas are a legitimate medical treatment for some children suffering bowel-related problems (obviously), but that particular cure for autism / learning disabilities has always stuck me as abusive. The child is probably just subdued by the effort used to create the conditions for the enema. Ugh.

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LOL.

 

I am defusing an essential oil blend right now for sinus congestion. Plain old, ordinary sinus congestion. It works well for me.

 

But do I sell it? No. Do I think it will deal with anything more than a simple stuffy nose. No. I even discussed it with my allergy doctor, and she was in full agreement. I can't think of a time when I've recommended it for anything but what I use it for.

 

I'm not against alternative medicine. But everything has it's place.

Absolutely essential oils used carefully (I.e. don't ingest something not safe to ingest) to treat minor annoyance kinds of things are great.

 

Might help, and if it doesn't no harm done (though I've heard diffusing oils can be dangerous to cats?)

 

If they have the kind of disease curing effects some people claim, however, they are mighty powerful drugs and need to be dispensed by a medical professional :)

 

Really that's what gets me: if these natural cures are so potent, how can they not be potentially dangerous? Anything that can, say, kill cancer, or reverse an autoimmune disorder necessarily also could have unwanted side effects. Such as possibly killing a person. Because powerful drugs can do that and need to be treated with caution.

 

Sorry folks, we can't have it both ways: stuff is either totally harmless and doesn't have major effects on our bodies, or it has major effects on our bodies some of which might be unwanted.

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Or you can give it a try, and get your own evidence regarding your own body.

 

I would do the latter, myself.  If it doesn't work, oh well....you have lost nothing but the price of a small bottle of this stuff.  If it happens to work for you, great.  If it happens to work even a little bit, you are still better off than today.

 

You do realize that would be extremely dumb of me to do that, right?  I have Celiac.  Gluten causes me to have extreme stomach pain that feels like my stomach is swelling up and about to explode.  Then the diarrhea starts and I am in the bathroom for hours to days depending on how extreme the glutening is (cross contamination vs. eating a piece of bread).  Then there are week to months of joint pain, sensitive stomach, exhaustion, and so on.  Getting glutened is a BIG deal.  In order to test is ACV works I'd have to knowingly ingest gluten.  While I wouldn't die, I would be in *bad* shape.

 

FWIW, my dad does take ACV (along with a slew of other things) for other reasons.  It has not helped his Celiac at all.  It is simply not something that works for Celiac Disease.

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Doritos are THE WORST.

 

Broccoli is a close second.

Just had to throw that out there. Pregnant ladies, I don't care WHAT your cravings tell you, if you are nauseated DO NOT EAT DORITOS.

 

(I threw up 8 months with three of my pregnancies.)  I've never thrown up Doritos.  Or broccoli.  The worst for me was peanut butter.  It sticks coming back up, too.  The most pleasant was icing.  I had eaten it plain out of the container, not on anything else (don't judge... I was pregnant!).

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One of my favorites -- there's an essential oil mix that is called "morphine bomb."

 

We tried it multiple times, and there's no comparison to the real deal.

 

Someone tried to get my dad to take the EO morphine bomb after his Whipple procedure last fall (to get rid of pancreatic cancer - it removes a lot of things including part of the pancreas, gallbladder, and some intestine).  They told him he wouldn't need any pain medication if he'd just take the morphine bomb.  He declined.

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Yeah my guess is there are too many hobby celiac sufferers floating around.  So probably ACV works for them. 

 

I hadn't heard that, but I know a few of those. I know one person IRL with actual celiac and she (understandably) gets so frustrated when she hears them talk about how sorry they are that they broke down and had some regular (not gluten free) pasta but they just couldn't resist. 

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I hadn't heard that, but I know a few of those. I know one person IRL with actual celiac and she (understandably) gets so frustrated when she hears them talk about how sorry they are that they broke down and had some regular (not gluten free) pasta but they just couldn't resist.

Do they claim to have celiac or just gluten sensitivity? Gluten sensitivity seems to be a real thing; people react to gluten, but not with the severity seen in celiac disease.

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The worst for me was peanut butter.  It sticks coming back up, too.

 

That is the worst thing I have heard in 2016.

 

I think that somehow I knew that at some level, sub-consciously, like I predicted it, and that's why I avoid peanut butter in spite of the fact that I don't have an allergy or anything.

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I hadn't heard that, but I know a few of those. I know one person IRL with actual celiac and she (understandably) gets so frustrated when she hears them talk about how sorry they are that they broke down and had some regular (not gluten free) pasta but they just couldn't resist. 

 

Well, there is one upside to this. There are lots and lots of products available in stores these days.  All those extra people interested in the concept or the fashion of going gluten free probably created the kind of interest needed to get more of them into stores and made them more affordable. 

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hey told him he wouldn't need any pain medication if he'd just take the morphine bomb.

 

"And what, pray tell, do you think a morphine bomb is?" 

 

:willy_nilly:   :banghead:  :angry:  :cursing:  :willy_nilly:

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"And what, pray tell, do you think a morphine bomb is?"

 

:willy_nilly: :banghead: :angry: :cursing: :willy_nilly:

It's not pain medication.

 

Because it is NATURAL, duh.

 

I makes all pain disappear and has absolutely no nasty side effects because of its magical NATURAL power to manipulate the human body in only the way the folks peddling or using it want.

 

Doctors and scientists and drug companies and the government are all in cahoots to keep us from taking full advantage of these wonderful drug-free (and chemical free!) NATURAL products.

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Do they claim to have celiac or just gluten sensitivity? Gluten sensitivity seems to be a real thing; people react to gluten, but not with the severity seen in celiac disease.

 

My little one has non-celiac gluten intolerance. She has been tested twice for celiac (2nd time with the extended panel) and food allergies including wheat (again 2nd time with the extended panel). She fell off the growth charts after we introduced gluten-containing barley cereal and wore only a size 18 months at 2 years 11 months when I switched her to a GF diet. Within 6 weeks of going GF, she experienced a dramatic "catch up" weight and height gain. I get so mad when people claim that non-celiac gluten intolerance is "all in your head". No, it's not. My toddler could not will her body to not grow properly and then to grow after a diet change that she didn't even understand simply through the power of her mind.

 

I'm personally glad that she doesn't seem to be as ultra-sensitive to cross-contamination as those with celiac often are. I don't "cheat" on her diet but I don't have to worry about the residue left on a grill or toaster, for example.

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I started telling people what it felt like to throw up crackers. I asked if they wanted my rankings of foods to vomit. 

 

I put salad greens at the top. So much worse than Doritos. 

 

 

Raw apple cider vinegar is a probiotic and will help anything probiotics usually help. This does not include rewriting DNA. Hey, maybe that's a response to try. "You are telling me that ACV can rewrite my DNA?"  :huh:  Surely even the most enthusiastic will have to stop and think that sounds stupid?

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It's not pain medication.

 

Because it is NATURAL, duh.

 

I makes all pain disappear and has absolutely no nasty side effects because of its magical NATURAL power to manipulate the human body in only the way the folks peddling or using it want.

 

Doctors and scientists and drug companies and the government are all in cahoots to keep us from taking full advantage of these wonderful drug-free (and chemical free!) NATURAL products.

 

"Chemical free". Snort. 

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As to why a drug? To eliminate the very real and awful risk of cross contamination during everyday life. So people with celiac can enjoy eating a meal at a restaurant and not have to freakishly worry about a crumb of gluten getting in their meal. So a celiac can enjoy a large family/friend BBQ potluck and not worry about whether the tomatoes were sliced on a cutting board that was also used for bread, or not have to worry about the grill being contaminated by the gluten containing BBQ sauce on the ribs made earlier. Or have to worry about someone using the same serving spoon for the potato salad that he just used for the noodle salad. Or get sick from kissing someone who drank a beer. Or get sick from eating a food that didn't used to contain gluten but now does and she didn't read the label. To be able to go on vacation and not have to stress about how, where, and what she can eat. Because getting sick from cross contamination is frustrating, depressing, awful physically, and increases risk of complications like cancer or thyroid problems. That's why I support a drug to help treat celiac.


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Adhering to diet is my dd cure. She no longer has seizures because of it. Most MDs will say seizures are a rare symptom of celiac. We know three people for it was the main symptom. She also had other problems, but seizures was the biggest.

If possible, it is far healthier to get your body to work properly on its own than to introduce various pharmaceuticals. So, I am certain dd would stick with diet. She does go to restaurants. She's managed to avoid contamination. She knows how to advocate and ask a lot of questions.

I have to take drugs for thyroid and parathyroid disease. My Ca is very low because of parathyroid. Through eating lots of nonfat Greek yogurt my Ca levels are up the drugs and supplements weren't working. I have to eat something I don't like very much. It's just better for my body than the drugs.

Strictly speaking there is no cure for celiac. After 14 years, dd feels she has her cure and manages just fine.

Diet doesn't cure everything, but it is the answer for celiac.
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As to why a drug? To eliminate the very real and awful risk of cross contamination during everyday life. So people with celiac can enjoy eating a meal at a restaurant and not have to freakishly worry about a crumb of gluten getting in their meal. So a celiac can enjoy a large family/friend BBQ potluck and not worry about whether the tomatoes were sliced on a cutting board that was also used for bread, or not have to worry about the grill being contaminated by the gluten containing BBQ sauce on the ribs made earlier. Or have to worry about someone using the same serving spoon for the potato salad that he just used for the noodle salad. Or get sick from kissing someone who drank a beer. Or get sick from eating a food that didn't used to contain gluten but now does and she didn't read the label. To be able to go on vacation and not have to stress about how, where, and what she can eat. Because getting sick from cross contamination is frustrating, depressing, awful physically, and increases risk of complications like cancer or thyroid problems. That's why I support a drug to help treat celiac.

 

 

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Adhering to diet is my dd cure. She no longer has seizures because of it. Most MDs will say seizures are a rare symptom of celiac. We know three people for it was the main symptom. She also had other problems, but seizures was the biggest.

 

If possible, it is far healthier to get your body to work properly on its own than to introduce various pharmaceuticals. So, I am certain dd would stick with diet. She does go to restaurants. She's managed to avoid contamination. She knows how to advocate and ask a lot of questions.

 

I have to take drugs for thyroid and parathyroid disease. My Ca is very low because of parathyroid. Through eating lots of nonfat Greek yogurt my Ca levels are up the drugs and supplements weren't working. I have to eat something I don't like very much. It's just better for my body than the drugs.

 

Strictly speaking there is no cure for celiac. After 14 years, dd feels she has her cure and manages just fine.

 

Diet doesn't cure everything, but it is the answer for celiac.

 

But she still has celiac, so she isn't cured.

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OK hyperemesis people ice cream is the worst. I spent three pregnancies vomiting and getting IV rehydration. I got yelled at because I was losing weight (stupid doctor--if I wasn't throwing up I would have been gaining I was not "dieting"). 

 

Anyway ice cream. tastes good going in but so, so sour and awful coming back the flavor coming back just coats your mouth. You can't get rid of it. 

 

I was quite the expert on choosing food because of the taste and texture as vomit. 

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But she still has celiac, so she isn't cured.

 

 

I acknowledged that when I said "strictly speaking"

 

There are lots of diseases for which there is not cure. No diet is going to rewrite genes. No drug will rewrite genes. However, being gf isn't that hard if you have access to unprocessed foods. we've been doing it 14 years. 

 

diet is essentially the cure. 

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I acknowledged that when I said "strictly speaking"

 

There are lots of diseases for which there is not cure. No diet is going to rewrite genes. No drug will rewrite genes. However, being gf isn't that hard if you have access to unprocessed foods. we've been doing it 14 years.

 

diet is essentially the cure.

It isn't. Diet simply allows someone to avoid the triggers. Which is why there is ongoing treatment for an actual cure.

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The one that really gets my goat is the implication that my intellectually disabled son would be FINE if I weren't homeschooling him.

 

Uh-huh. Whatev.

 

 

Ugh. (((Kinsa)))

 

I had a family member, who is an educator, tell me with a straight face that my oldest son with ASD would not have ASD if he were in public school.

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