LAinVA Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I've been looking at this for awhile and I found out a bit more on the HSBC site. It is online, has a write in text, a digital TE, hands-on activities, a pacing schedule, assessments, and it is secular. It is 25% off right now and will go to 40% off if over 50 people agree to buy it. Oh, and they offer 4 different start dates for the online portion starting with May 15th. Just thought I would pass it on for those still looking! https://www.homeschoolbuyersco-op.org/index.php?option=com_hsbc_epp_order&Itemid=1703&c=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama27 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Are there samples of what you actually get anywhere? I'm interested but confused as to what is included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAinVA Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 This link shows you 60+ pages of the text - http://www.scribd.com/search?query=Science+Fusion I had a rough time finding information on it too. The link in my prior post has a video and a description. There is a link to the pacing guide this is 3rd grade - http://www.hmheducation.com/sciencefusion/pdf/ScienceFusion_Gr3.pdf If you go to the grade you want and open it; there is a pacing guide for each one towards the bottom. HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAinVA Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Here's a couple more links: http://www.hmheducation.com/sciencefusion-homeschool/science-textbooks-grades-k-5.php http://www.hmheducation.com/sciencefusion-homeschool/science-textbooks-grades-6-8.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truebluexf Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I am so excited for this, and so is DS. We LOVED the samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAinVA Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 I am so excited for this, and so is DS. We LOVED the samples. Me too! I like having the different resources as far as the text, the online, and the hands-on activities. I haven't committed to buying yet because I can't decide on the start date. I thought it might be a good idea to start over the summer instead of waiting until August 15th. Regardless, I will definitely be buying! :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama27 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 This link shows you 60+ pages of the text - http://www.scribd.com/search?query=Science+Fusion I had a rough time finding information on it too. The link in my prior post has a video and a description. There is a link to the pacing guide this is 3rd grade - http://www.hmheducation.com/sciencefusion/pdf/ScienceFusion_Gr3.pdf If you go to the grade you want and open it; there is a pacing guide for each one towards the bottom. HTH! THANK YOU!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetandSimple Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 We are going to try this too... when I showed some of the online samples to my son, he was really excited. We won't officially start until the fall, but I think that I'll request access for July 15th, so that I can look at it and put together (ahead of time!) the supplies that we'll want for the hands-on activities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paceofnature Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I just stumbled across this site when searching for info on SF. Helped me to decide that I definitely want to do SF next year :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAinVA Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 We are going to try this too... when I showed some of the online samples to my son, he was really excited. We won't officially start until the fall, but I think that I'll request access for July 15th, so that I can look at it and put together (ahead of time!) the supplies that we'll want for the hands-on activities Ah, that's a good idea. This will be our 1st year hsing so these tidbits help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy at Home Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Wow, thanks for sharing. This looks great! Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomatHWTK Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Thanks for the sample link, I spent half the night trying to find images from the textbook. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAinVA Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 I just stumbled across this site when searching for info on SF. Helped me to decide that I definitely want to do SF next year :) WOW! I wonder if this is just for schools or are what the hs package includes also. I LOVE the list of leveled readers you can just pull up as a pdf. I find it odd it lets you in without a password though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truebluexf Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I wonder if it can be done two days a week? And how much is teacher involved? I'm definitely using it for DS, just wondering if DD is going to be wishing she had it, too. I'm assuming DS will be able to do most of it on his own as a 5th grader, but I don't want to be overwhelmed (and I'm not too set on needing full formal science for a 3rd grader.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyrjoy Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'm confused. Is this either a book or a computer based thing, or both? I'm not crazy about the book samples. I'm curious- what specifically don't you like. :bigear: Looking at this for something fun and extra for my science loving DS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAinVA Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'm confused. Is this either a book or a computer based thing, or both? I'm not crazy about the book samples. It is online and text and hands-on. I am pretty sure the majority in online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann@thebeach Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I just stumbled across this site when searching for info on SF. Helped me to decide that I definitely want to do SF next year :) THANKS! My kids were able to watch a whole lesson so I could better judge content and they could see what they thought. (I'm surprised it's not password protected too ;) ) I think this will be a good value when it get's to 40% off, which I'm sure it will. I don't like the 1 year usage from date the date you select, but I get why they do it. Edited April 12, 2012 by Ann in IA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caraway Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 WOW! I wonder if this is just for schools or are what the hs package includes also. I LOVE the list of leveled readers you can just pull up as a pdf. I find it odd it lets you in without a password though. Will Homeschoolers have access to these leveled readers resources? Could those be put onto an ipad? (Obviously if they are PDFs they can, but they didn't show up as PDFs for me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in SW WA Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I just stumbled across this site when searching for info on SF. Helped me to decide that I definitely want to do SF next year :) Holy science-samples, Batman! This link is awesome! Thanks for sharing! I was planning to just use one of the middle school modules next year -- but this 5th grade sample looks fantastic. :) Actually, they all look great. Decisions, decisions. Edited April 12, 2012 by Beth in SW WA typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondreeuh Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 They are pdfs, they are just opened within the browser instead of through Acrobat. If you right-click on the name of the reader, there is an option to "save link as" and that will save it to your computer as a pdf. Then it could be sent to your iPad. FYI - there are three levels to the readers. The ones that have a red border are level 1, the blue ones are level 2, and the green ones are level 3. So your student wouldn't be reading ALL the book on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann@thebeach Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Oh, I just found the leveled readers :001_wub: They look great!! So my biggest question is this: Is the homeschool pkg the same as what the schools get? Any differences? I don't want to buy it and then find that the leveled readers are not included or some other component. KWIM? I'm not able to see a complete homeschool sample like the school one that was listed so can't compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caraway Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Oh, I just found the leveled readers :001_wub: They look great!! So my biggest question is this: Is the homeschool pkg the same as what the schools get? Any differences? I don't want to buy it and then find that the leveled readers are not included or some other component. KWIM? I'm not able to see a complete homeschool sample like the school one that was listed so can't compare. Exactly. I am not even sure who to contact with this question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAinVA Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Oh, I just found the leveled readers :001_wub: They look great!! So my biggest question is this: Is the homeschool pkg the same as what the schools get? Any differences? I don't want to buy it and then find that the leveled readers are not included or some other component. KWIM? I'm not able to see a complete homeschool sample like the school one that was listed so can't compare. It appears as though the leveled readers are included with the homeschool kit. :D Scroll down on the "Digital K5" Tab http://www.hmheducation.com/sciencefusion-homeschool/overview-homeschool-kit-components.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caraway Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 It appears as though the leveled readers are included with the homeschool kit. :D Scroll down on the "Digital K5" Tab http://www.hmheducation.com/sciencefusion-homeschool/overview-homeschool-kit-components.php :hurray: Thanks for find that info. I get excited and my skimming doesn't take it all in. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecclecticmum Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I originally looked at it before the HSBC. And I was turned off, I can't remember why, now looking at it again, I do remember. I prefer stuff, that if I purchase, its mine, especially if its something I am going to use as a core. If I love the program, without HSBC its $150 per year, and the only thing you get out of it is some audio and student readers, that you can keep at the end. 3 children $450 a year for that program. And I have to keep on buying it every year, its an ongoing cost. Like an expensive Lending library. I'd much rather buy a few CD-Rom games that are mine to keep, some Science videos, again, mine to keep, games, labs, and colourful books, that I can use again and again in the years to come. I am honestly sure its brilliant and blows away peoples mind in the way of technology, but its just not worth the cost IMO. If they turn it into a CD or something you can buy and KEEP. Or a lifetime membership or something, then I would probably re-look at it, but am always wary of something you pay for, and they essentially "keep". *ducks from tomatoes and slips over* lol. Anyway, just trying to give a different POV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondreeuh Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Is there anything like this on a CD-Rom? I love the presentation of the digital lessons. I love that there is a worktext component for reinforcement. Is there anything similar - a blend of digital lessons and consumable worksheet? Some that is a general science overview and not just straight physics, or bio? Something secular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondreeuh Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) double post Edited April 13, 2012 by ondreeuh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babysparkler Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Is there anything like this on a CD-Rom? I love the presentation of the digital lessons. I love that there is a worktext component for reinforcement. Is there anything similar - a blend of digital lessons and consumable worksheet? Some that is a general science overview and not just straight physics, or bio? Something secular? I was wondering this too. I want something JUST like this, but offline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALB Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I didn't even know the price, but that's a huge turn off. What I'm not crazy about is that it looks very busy. There is this and that all over the place. I think we could cover those topics easily by just reading various library books. And in fact my 10 year old has already beaten all those topics to death. I'm having him move onto something meatier next year. I don't even know how I'd place him in Fusion. And my other son is 6 so I definitely don't see the need for that program. Again, I could cover those topics with library books and videos. Thanks for that reminder! Why is every NEW thing so tempting??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver0f10 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I would love something like this for my dyslexic son, but from a Christian publisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetic license Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 And I tend to not like school textbooks. I prefer reading books not written for schools. KWIM? I suppose it's somewhat of an unfair prejudice I have. Growing up I think some of my school text books were soul crushingly boring. :iagree: That and they are unreasonably dumbed-down. I was going thru the grades, first, then second, and then only when I got to third was I semi-okay with the level of writing and info, but even then, it was paltry compared to what you would get out of a good non-school science book. I think I'll stick to library books and BFSU for next year, personally (this is for 1st grade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caraway Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I'm in. Yeah, it probably isn't perfect, but science hasn't been happening around here. This way my kids will be asking to do it, and THEN we can go to the library. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanna1949 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Thank you so much for sharing this. I'd been looking at this curriculum but was undecided. Now my mind is made up and I just ordered it! :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAinVA Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Yes!! Got to 40% off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momtoamiracle Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I just stumbled across this site when searching for info on SF. Helped me to decide that I definitely want to do SF next year :) thanks for that! it looks amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanagnostos Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Well I do think it could be appealing to some kids because it is on the computer. My fear would be that my son wouldn't actually read it, but skim it. I too tend to skim things on the computer (but not so much in a book). From the sample I looked at, the student goes through the interactive presentation on the computer, and then there are slides at the end where you have to click on the answers to questions. If the student has skimmed, they won't get these right. And the presentation covers the information again for wrong answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanagnostos Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 WOW! I wonder if this is just for schools or are what the hs package includes also. I LOVE the list of leveled readers you can just pull up as a pdf. I find it odd it lets you in without a password though. I'm not seeing the leveled readers y'all are talking about. I'm looking at grades 6-8. Are these only in 1-5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I'm with Wendy. I don't think it looks that good. For that price, adn assuming you want something online, I think K12's science is better (we did it for 2 years, and i still think i might do it again for younger) the content is nowhere near BFSU volume 2 (i'm looking a Grade 5) and we're not big fans of the "scattered on the page, graphic, blurby, DK Science book" format either. I also agree with Wendy that much of the content will have already been covered by kids who read a lot of science books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momtoamiracle Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I'm with Wendy. I don't think it looks that good. For that price, adn assuming you want something online, I think K12's science is better (we did it for 2 years, and i still think i might do it again for younger) the content is nowhere near BFSU volume 2 (i'm looking a Grade 5) and we're not big fans of the "scattered on the page, graphic, blurby, DK Science book" format either. I also agree with Wendy that much of the content will have already been covered by kids who read a lot of science books. but isn't K12's science over $200, plus materials? We are doing K12 and I do really like the science, but i can't spend that much money on one subject. I decided against it. I decided I'd rather just do books and not worry about the computer. I can find videos and things from NASA, youtube, and neoK12.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairProspects Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I didn't even know the price, but that's a huge turn off. What I'm not crazy about is that it looks very busy. There is this and that all over the place. I think we could cover those topics easily by just reading various library books. And in fact my 10 year old has already beaten all those topics to death. I'm having him move onto something meatier next year. I don't even know how I'd place him in Fusion. And my other son is 6 so I definitely don't see the need for that program. Again, I could cover those topics with library books and videos. Thanks, Wendy. If you don't like it, I'm sure I won't either. :) What did you end up with for next year? And can I ask what you did for Earth/Space science? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) but isn't K12's science over $200, plus materials? We are doing K12 and I do really like the science, but i can't spend that much money on one subject. I decided against it. I decided I'd rather just do books and not worry about the computer. I can find videos and things from NASA, youtube, and neoK12.com. We do science intensives, when they do K12 they do 5 or even 6 days a week so we don't pay for as many months, many short lessons can be combined, and some of the activites can be done after they have completed the course for reinforcement or expansion of a topic. :) Edited April 19, 2012 by melmichigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momtoamiracle Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 We do science intensives, when they do K12 they do 5 or even 6 days a week so we don't pay for as many months, many short lessons can be combined, and some of the activites can be done after they have completed the course for reinforcement or expansion of a topic. :) gotcha! That's a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmichigan Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) gotcha! That's a good idea! On average it takes 4 months. I always buy the kits so I don't have to hunt for supplies. The kids are always ahead in science, they love doing it like this. Edited April 20, 2012 by melmichigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennay Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Does anyone know how you can get an extra worktext for 2 kids working on the same level? I'm considering this as I need a science that covers a variety of topics, can be done somewhat independently, and has some excitement/wow factor. We've used SL science up until now and the my boys are getting tired of the format. Me too, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethG Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) I have no idea why this posted here. I thought I'd clicked NEW THREAD. OOOPPPPssss. Off to start my new thread......sorry Edited April 28, 2012 by BethG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeteranMom Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Does anyone know how you can get an extra worktext for 2 kids working on the same level?I'm considering this as I need a science that covers a variety of topics, can be done somewhat independently, and has some excitement/wow factor. We've used SL science up until now and the my boys are getting tired of the format. Me too, actually. I contacted the company directly and asked them about extra workbooks. I have 3 kids that will be working at the same level. They do not have extra workbooks for sale. They gave me the ISBN number for the book and I did some searching on the internet. The books I found were $85 each, plus shipping. I did leave a comment for the customer service rep and told him the company needs to allow for people to buy extra workbooks and that they are missing an opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Anyone know the ISBNs for the grade 5 or 6 books? I found 7 & 8 on amazon and a few Florida or Indiana versions. I don't have the money for this right now, but I'd like to check it out in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyofsixreboot Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Did you see this from up thread? I bit the bullet and spent almost half my $200 budget on the 5th grade. My next year 3rd grader should be able to do it and I can up it some for my 6th grader. He'll do any workbook stuff on lined paper. I think it will engage them. I love science but we haven't enjoyed library book science or text book science and they loathe experiment based things. Brain pop is all that has engaged them and this looks a step up from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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