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  1. Ha! It's always interesting and humbling to read previous posts. We have gone back and forth between AO/ CM and MP a few times over the years. A definite common denominator is the high literary quality of the books used by both methods. I really like the history progression of both as well, and that with both you are constantly studying Shakespeare and classics, as opposed to only reading those when you happen to be studying middle ages or ancients. MP obviously emphasizes Latin to a greater degree than most AO users but a true CM education does have Latin from 4th grade up. And we have kept with MP for Latin, my dd is going to be doing Henle 3 with MPOA in the fall. Charlotte Mason's books have really resonated with me. I especially love her saying that it doesn't matter how much the child knows but how much the child cares. Both MP and a CM education offer a child an "abundant feast" of subjects with many ideas that are food for the child's brain. The most obvious difference in the approach, in my opinion, is that while MP includes student guides complete with quizzes and tests (and often flashcards to enhance memorization), AO/ CM leaves the work in the domain of the student's brain. They need to narrate, which includes taking the material, thinking it through, connecting it to other ideas, and then communicating the ideas with increasing effectiveness and clarity. This approach has been wonderful for my oldest. She consistently got high grades on her MP tests because she is great at memorizing, but was so relieved when each book was finished because she was stressed about the tests. With AO, she loves her books and never wants them to end. She gives the most thoughtful, insightful narrations and really has great ideas about what she reads. I see the connections happening in her mind, and it's a joy to discuss the material with her. Now I do see value in tests and learning to study and memorize information. Obviously that is a necessary skill that will serve them well in college. We're using science textbooks, and also have regular tests in math and Latin. I just don't feel that my kids need that particular form of evaluation for history, literature, Bible, etc. I plan to still use MP geography alongside AO for my youngest, and I might use some Classical Composition with him. I do really like the MP lit guides for the extra helpful info they provide, and we've really enjoyed their poetry books. I also have to say that they have consistently given me about the best costumer service that I've ever had anywhere, and they are unbelievably helpful when we are stuck with Latin. Now I'm wondering what we'll be using in a few year's time if I happen to reread this post...
  2. Math: CLE 4 Language Arts: Handwriting Without Tears Cursive, Spelling Workout C, Rod and Staff English 2, copywork from books we read, readers I assign Literature: Ambleside Online Year 2 books (Understood Betsy, Pilgrim's Progress, The Wind and the Willows, Robin Hood, Tales from Shakespeare, poetry) History: Middle Ages with Ambleside Online Year 2 )A Child's History of the World, Our Island Story, This Country of Ours, Joan of Arc plus fun supplemental books about the Middle Ages) Science: Burgess Animal Book, Apologia Astronomy, Nature Study Geography: A Tree in the Trail, Seabird Bible: Community Bible Study, New City Catechism Extras: Tae Kwon Do, soccer, extreme Lego building
  3. I'm specifically talking about the higher number problems in each lesson. She and I both understand and can easily do all the basic "math" problems, and then we can sometimes do the first word problem or so with no issue. Then they get tricky. Often even with watching the video solutions we're not 100% sure what they were asking or how he arrived at the solutions. This is super frustrating for both of us, who are perfectionists and are accustomed to learning to mastery and thoroughly "getting" everything before moving on. We haven't had great success using the MWB graphing program, Geogebra, either. The word problems at the end of each chapter don't seem as hard for some reason. I know ultimately it's up to me and I don't need permission to skip anything. But, it would be helpful to hear from anyone else who has used this book and culled certain material (word problems or whole chapters, specifically). Could that still set her up for precalculus (NOT with Foerster, probably Mr.D or DE).
  4. I know this has been asked before and have read all the previous threads. My dd is in Ch 6 (logarithms) and has done okay with the text so far. We're using the Math Without Borders videos and doing the problems he assigns. The word problems are becoming more and more difficult and even with me putting in an hour or so of personal study each night, I'm not understanding the material to the extent that I can help her (and she needs me to be able to help her). I was good at this in school and enjoy math, but these word problems are killing me! What are our options? We have covered a significant amount of material and invested lots of time into this curriculum. Is it fair to continue from this point without doing the word problems? I'm thinking that would really limit the benefits of the book and even cut out some of the learning since some properties are "discovered" through solving the problems. Can we just get through, say chapter 8 or 9 and call it good and move on to something easier for Precalculus? I guess I'm asking what is the bare minimum we can do of Foerster in order to say she's completed Algebra 2 and can move on? Some lessons really seem like they could be "extras" intended for very mathy students who want to take concepts further. I'm so tempted to just throw in the towel and find something easy that makes us feel successful and gets the job done, but I also want her to get a solid Algebra foundation, which is why I chose this book.
  5. We have used Cambridge 1 and 2, and have done Henle 1 and 2. She'll be fine for grammar, but there are many vocabulary words in Cambridge that would be helpful to know as they'll show up in the translations right off the bat. If possible, you might want to just expose her to that so that she can be prepared. The vocabulary is pretty interesting and not too difficult. A solid base of grammar with Henle will help her tons!
  6. I submitted on Sunday and was approved early Monday morning, so I assume that it might have been more immediate if I had submitted on a weekday. Thanks again for this recommendation! That saved me TONS of time.
  7. Wow! Thanks for pointing me in this direction. I submitted it and am waiting approval. What a game changer this is! I thought I had heard about this option months ago but couldn't find it anywhere on the College Board site so assumed it wasn't a valid option anymore.
  8. I'm in the process of attempting this so I can submit my syllabus to the College Board and call my dd's class "AP" on her transcript. My head is spinning, because while I am used to designing courses for our homeschool, I have never written this type of a syllabus. How detailed does it need to be? I printed off the sample from the CB website, so I do have that to go from. Basically, I have a paragraph for a course overview, a paragraph about student assignments, and then her reading list. After that, I've divided the year into 9 units (rotating poetry, short fiction, longer fiction, drama). Under each unit I have copied the skill objectives from the CB course info, then listed the specific short stories/ poems/ etc. for that unit. Then I have a section called "Assignments," where I have bullet points describing what chapters are read from Structure, Sound, and Sense and The Lively Art of Writing, then a bunch of written and oral discussion topics for that unit. What I don't have are specific due dates of anything, or super clear timelines of when the longer novels need to be read. From the sample syllabus, it doesn't seem like I need those more technical details. How does that sound? Am I going in the right direction? (Please tell me that I am because I've already sunk a bunch of hours into this!)
  9. CLE Algebra Conceptual Physics (Hewitt), science biographies (Kepler, Newton, Einstein), A Briefer History of Time Literature (King Arthur, Watership Down, Beowulf, Canterbury Tales, Shakespeare, poetry) Middle Ages History using Ambleside Online Year 7 Lite Easy Grammar, writing will mainly consist of daily written narrations with occasional assigned short essay topics Getting Started with Spanish Mapping the World with Art (I think, but I haven't actually bought this yet. He loves Ellen McHenry's science books so I think this might be an enjoyable way to cover geography for a kid who doesn't especially like geography) Whatever Happened to Justice? Logic- maybe? We've done Fallacy Detective so maybe The Thinking Toolbox, thinking I'll save Art of Argument for 9th grade but still unsure Coding using a variety of sources Tae Kwon Do Community Bible Study
  10. I have worked through the texts ahead of my dd, but not that far ahead. Honestly, I would probably forget it if I attempted it years in advance. I just stay somewhat ahead and work through as many problems in the lessons as I can, focusing on ones that look more challenging. I then make little pencil notes in the solutions manuals about helpful hints for a problem or alternate solutions that may also be valid. We have used CLE Algebra I, Jacobs Geometry, and are currently in Foerster's Algebra II. All of them have been a success here.
  11. There are no hard and fast rules here! It really just depends on what you and she want from it. My dd has through all 4 forms and Henle I and II. She will keep going through AP Latin and has no desire to add a modern language to that. My ds went through Second Form and then moved on to Spanish. He dreaded Latin and wanted something that felt more immediately practical. That was hard for me because I have been so committed to Latin and have learned it right along with my kids. I think the ideal would be to do both a modern language and continue a classical language to some degree, but that's not going to be realistic for everyone. If you just want vocabulary, there are other ways to accomplish that. Probably the most useful Latin vocabulary to know are the prepositions and how they combine with verbs to vary the meanings. Obviously, the further you progress in Latin the more vocabulary you will have.
  12. I'm planning to have my ds work through this text (the high school one) for 8th grade. I have bought the book but would love to have solutions for the chapter review questions at the end of each chapter. Does anyone know whether the Teacher Edition of the book includes those answers? I'd rather not purchase accompanying workbooks, unless those include an answer key within them.
  13. Math: Foerster's Algebra 2 Latin: Mueller's Caesar Henle 3 with MPOA Science: Discovering Design with Chemistry History: American History I, using Ambleside Online year 9/10. Government: Going to try to self-study for AP Government (still using mainly AO books but adding AP prep materials, too) English: Ambleside Online year 9/10 plus self study for AP Literature and Composition using AO books and some additions Partial credits: Bible, worldview, Fine Arts using Ambleside Online materials + Community Bible Study Extra Curricular: Taekwondo will happen for sure, hoping recreational soccer starts up again, and mostly hoping to raise a guide puppy for the Guide Dog Foundation (we're on a waiting list but things have slowed down in their program due to COVID) Update: We have our little future guide puppy!! No idea how this AP stuff will pan out! But she's extremely motivated and hard working and wants to go for it, so we'll take a shot. The courses will not be labelled AP but will just have the exams. Got College Board approval so we're legit!
  14. Good to know! Geometry has been a fun challenge but I wouldn't say it's a walk in the park.
  15. Okay, then we'll skip the videos. Every time I've purchased DVDs for any class it has ended up being a waste of money. I'll definitely have to brush up on my skills, but I've been doing that with Geometry and we've had no problems so far. She is a motivated and self-directed student so hopefully this will be fine.
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