Tap Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 You East coasters should be just about done......how was it? I am 3 episodes behind, so I won't be watching for a few days. I don't mind spoilers so no worries. Was it worthy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa in Jax Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I liked the way they brought so many things full-circle. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda in TX Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I cried several times throughout the show. I'm still slightly confused, but I liked it. I think I understand it. I think. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I think I'm good with it. Still digesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal in VA Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I cried several times throughout the show. I'm still slightly confused, but I liked it. I think I understand it. I think. :D Me too! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Knoll Mom Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 It sucked. So disappointed in how they resolved the flash sideways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle My Bell Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I am highly confused. I need all of you to figure it out for me. I wanted more answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamturner Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I am so lost! Someone please explain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmommy Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 We thought it was a horrible ending. We get what they were going for, but it just didn't seem to actually answer any questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I am also a little bit confused and don't quite understand. I am going to give it some more thought but overall, I think that I am pretty satisfied with the ending. Definitely some teary moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly in FL Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 There are so many things left unanswered. Plus, at what point did they all die? What was the point of the whole show if they were dead from the beginning? Sigh... I'm disappointed. Maybe I just don't get it. ~Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I think they devised a "loophole" to make it about what they said it wasn't. (Did that make any sense? I'm trying not to spoil too blatantly!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avila Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) This is what I *think* the end meant. Jack died on the island. Anything that happened in the Flash Sideways is not real. It is his own little purgatory or letting go process. The end is when they have all died and meet up "on the other side." So anything that happened on the island WAS the reality. The people who died there are really dead. Boone, Charlie, Juliet, Shannon, Sayid, Jin and Sun all died on the island. Locke died before they came back. We don't know what happens in the end to the people on the plane, but we know they left the island. Hurley and Ben chose to stay, and they were going to send Desmond back. We got no answers to many of our questions. Edited May 24, 2010 by Asenik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 It sucked. So disappointed in how they resolved the flash sideways. We thought it was a horrible ending. We get what they were going for, but it just didn't seem to actually answer any questions. :iagree: I cried at several points throughout the night, but the last 15 minutes were :ack2:. Sorry, I think they dropped the ball or the cork or something like that. I guess Kimmel's show is supposed to have some alternate endings, but I'm not staying up tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle My Bell Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I think they devised a "loophole" to make it about what they said it wasn't. (Did that make any sense? I'm trying not to spoil too blatantly!) OK, I just need answers. NO MORE HINTS! LOL seriously, what are you saying!:tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda in TX Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 There are so many things left unanswered. Plus, at what point did they all die? What was the point of the whole show if they were dead from the beginning? Sigh... I'm disappointed. Maybe I just don't get it. ~Holly I don't think they were dead from the beginning. I think everything that happened on the island really happened. The flash sideways was after everybody had died, at whatever point in their lives. That's what I think, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) I LOVED it! Really, really loved it! For those of you that were confused, can you elaborate on what didn't make sense to you? It all made sense to me, but I think that might be partly because of my worldview. Edited May 24, 2010 by MelanieM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda in TX Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 We got no answers to many of our questions. I never expected to get everything answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle My Bell Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 We don't know what happens in the end to the people on the plane, but we know they left the island. I would assume they blew up. Remember the plane was loaded with explosives? Smokey noticed that and what's his name admitted to putting the them there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda in TX Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Did everything that happened on the island really happen? I think it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaKinVA Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 About as good as a dream sequence can be...that's not a dream sequence. :glare: Resolved any questions I really had, but a very un-fulfilling ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle My Bell Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I LOVED it! Really, really loved it! For those of you that were confused, can you elaborate on what didn't make sense to you? It all made sense to me, but I think that might be partly because of my worldview. How about you give your explaination. I want some answers. Can you tell I am frustrated. LOL:bigear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I thought what they were getting at was that the bomb was when they "made" the place for them all to meet up again. They all died whenever--Jack at the end, Boone and Shannon earlier, Desmond and Penny at some point much later presumably. Things are still repeating on the island--Hurley's the new Jacob, people come, people go, someone needs to keep the cork there, it only ends once, etc. The sideways world was just a hey, there's something more out there sort of thing. I think--tentatively--that I'm okay with it because the sideways world wasn't there to answer any of the big mysteries of the island; it was a separate story meant to put things in perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 OK, I just need answers. NO MORE HINTS! LOL seriously, what are you saying!:tongue_smilie: Way back around season one, the producers assured us that the island wasn't purgatory - but as a pp said, that's exactly what the "flash-sideways" seemed to be. OK, so the island wasn't purgatory (or hell), but they worked it in there anyway! I will say that I'm glad they found a device to bring everyone back together again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Did everything that happened on the island really happen? I think it did. Yes. That was their reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangearrow Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) ITA with the below statement. My first thought was that they all died the first time around, but no... Jack died as was seen. The flash sideways was definitely his letting-go purgatory process, met up on the other side by those he loved most. And because there is no "when" in purgatory - there were many there who died perhaps years after his death - but they were there exactly as he would have remembered them best. The island continues on with Hurley and the others living there - the other world continues on with those who escaped on the plane. Everyone else is still dead. The flash sideways scenes with everyone "remembering" apparently was just JACK remembering and realizing that his "utopia" was not real and accepting his fate and the reality of it all. Maybe the "Jacob" of the island is sort of an angel of death - helping people across to the other side of realization? Hurley was an active participant in the flash sideways scenes.... MAN - that's a lot to think about and mull over. We'll see if I still think what happened happened in the morning. ;) This is what I *think* the end meant. Jack died on the island. Anything that happened in the Flash Sideways is not real. It is his own little purgatory or letting go process. The end is when they have all died and meet up "on the other side." So anything that happened on the island WAS the reality. The people who died there are really dead. Charlie, Juliet, Shannon, Sayid, Jin and Sun all died on the island. Locke died before they came back. We don't know what happens in the end to the people on the plane, but we know they left the island. Hurley and Ben chose to stay, and they were going to send Desmond back. We got no answers to many of our questions. Edited May 24, 2010 by orangearrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) It sucked. So disappointed in how they resolved the flash sideways. :iagree: Way to throw their hands up in the air... :glare: I'm not confused, I just think it was resolved poorly. Edited May 24, 2010 by angela in ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Knoll Mom Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 For those of you that were confused, can you elaborate on what didn't make sense to you? It all made sense to me, but I think that might be partly because of my worldview. I got it. Christian's talk with Jack put the cookies on the bottom shelf. I just thought it was unsatisfying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I think the important thing to remember is what Christian said at the end about there being no now. (I can't remember his exact line.) If you think of time as being non-linear, then it all makes a little more sense that they could come together like that. Basically, they all lived their lives and died as they died... on the island, off the island... the sideways was an after-death place where they could all gather together before moving on, but they needed to be triggered to grasp where they really were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmamainva Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 ............. SPOILER ALERT ........... It reminded me wayyyy too much of Titanic! Rose went on to live her life and then, after she died at the age of 102, she was whisked back to the Titanic and everyone was there. Same thing here with Lost...as Jack's father said, some of them died on the island and some died many, many years later, but they've all returned to each other. They were gathered there to greet Jack after he died. It was 'his turn' so to speak. But everything on the island...the 6 years and all that...really happened. Some aren't dead yet -- like Ben (that's why he didn't go into the church). Ehhh...still doesn't answer all the questions I've had over the years, but not a bad episode. Just...not what I had expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Stupid. I will never get those 6 years back.:glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I got it. Christian's talk with Jack put the cookies on the bottom shelf. I just thought it was unsatisfying. Yes, I got a "Well, we only hav 15 minutes left and we're out of creativity, let's just tell them what we want it to be about." feel from Christian's talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 The redeeming point was the reunions. Who was your favorite? Mine was a tie between Juliet/Sawyer and Charlie/Claire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Same thing here with Lost...as Jack's father said, some of them died on the island and some died many, many years later, but they've all returned to each other. They were gathered there to greet Jack after he died. It was 'his turn' so to speak. I know the ending felt centered around Jack, but I didn't feel like it was meant to be about meeting him after he died. I thought it was about all of them gathering to move forward together. The gathering was outside of time, so it didn't happen after Jack died. I think showing Jack dying was a way to tie up some loose ends for the island timeline. In other words, this wasn't all something that happened to Jack. It was something that each of them had to wake up to when their time came to move on. But everything on the island...the 6 years and all that...really happened. Some aren't dead yet -- like Ben (that's why he didn't go into the church). I didn't get the idea that Ben wasn't dead, but rather that he wasn't ready to move on. Perhaps he had other people that he needed/wanted to connect with so he could move on with them. Which makes sense to me, because Ben was always an other. (In other words, I don't think this was his soul group.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Way back around season one, the producers assured us that the island wasn't purgatory - but as a pp said, that's exactly what the "flash-sideways" seemed to be. OK, so the island wasn't purgatory (or hell), but they worked it in there anyway! I will say that I'm glad they found a device to bring everyone back together again. Yeah, this. So the flash sideways was. Seriously after 6 years of telling people it wasn't purgatory, that's how you end one half of the show? What about Desmond? The people on the plane? And I'm rooting for the underdog again, but no one was excited to see Frank? They didn't ask him whether Sun & Jin survived? Kate should have been on the walkie askiing about that? I think I'll start an "I Love Frank" fan club. He seemed to fill the role of "when we need someone handy that no one will notice otherwise". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 The redeeming point was the reunions. Who was your favorite? Mine was a tie between Juliet/Sawyer and Charlie/Claire. Oh yeah... those two reunions were my favourite moments!! I thought they were really beautifully acted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) The redeeming point was the reunions. Who was your favorite? Mine was a tie between Juliet/Sawyer and Charlie/Claire. and, see, I think, in the end, that's kind of the point...the relationships between people are what really matters. The island keeps going--it's this cycle of good and evil and the battle between them, but in the end God is love. Umm, yeah, I had several beers during my LOST finale viewing experience. But I stand by my God is love as key to LOST thesis. That's why the Desmond/Penny episodes always totally rocked. Edited May 24, 2010 by kokotg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatherM2 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 What happened to Micheal and Walt? I didn't see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I didn't get the idea that Ben wasn't dead, but rather that he wasn't ready to move on. Perhaps he had other people that he needed/wanted to connect with so he could move on with them. Which makes sense to me, because Ben was always an other. (In other words, I don't think this was his soul group.) Yes, he would want to stay with Alex, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SproutMamaK Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I liked everything but the last 15 minutes. I hate that the resolved the flash sideways as not being real. What a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Yes, he would want to stay with Alex, I think. But Alex was dead, as was Rousseau.:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaKinVA Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 But Alex was dead, as was Rousseau.:confused: But, in that place...they didn't know they were dead. They hadn't "let go" yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I liked everything but the last 15 minutes. I hate that the resolved the flash sideways as not being real. What a waste of time. But they didn't resolve it as not being real! They resolved it as being a reality past death... something other than the day-to-day happenings that we call reality. I mean, if we can believe in an island that time travels, moves location, and draws people in like flies, then I think we can believe in an after-death experience that allows us to gather with our soul group before we move on, right? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjbeach Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 ............. SPOILER ALERT ........... It reminded me wayyyy too much of Titanic! Rose went on to live her life and then, after she died at the age of 102, she was whisked back to the Titanic and everyone was there. Same thing here with Lost...as Jack's father said, some of them died on the island and some died many, many years later, but they've all returned to each other. They were gathered there to greet Jack after he died. It was 'his turn' so to speak. But everything on the island...the 6 years and all that...really happened. Some aren't dead yet -- like Ben (that's why he didn't go into the church). . ITA with the Titanic ending-ishness. But Ben... I feel like I'm missing some religious symbolism that I should be "getting" like he still had some work to do on himself before he was ready to enter God's house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanieM Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 But, in that place...they didn't know they were dead. They hadn't "let go" yet. Right. I think that was the case as well. Of course, if you take time out of the equation then they could be ready when everyone else is ready and there isn't any need to wait. ;) Ultimately, I think I still believe that Ben's primary group wasn't the losties. Maybe he would be more heavily linked with all the rest of the Others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 But Alex was dead, as was Rousseau.:confused: Right, and so is Ben. They are all in the same "place." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 But they didn't resolve it as not being real! They resolved it as being a reality past death... something other than the day-to-day happenings that we call reality. I mean, if we can believe in an island that time travels, moves location, and draws people in like flies, then I think we can believe in an after-death experience that allows us to gather with our soul group before we move on, right? :lol: :iagree: LOST has always been an unequivocally spiritual show. I don't thinks it's at all out of place that is has two endings, essentially--one in the "real" world and one in the spiritual world. The sideways world was only half of one season; I don't see it as at all the same as if they'd said at the end that they'd all been dead the whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebug42 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 The redeeming point was the reunions. Who was your favorite? Mine was a tie between Juliet/Sawyer and Charlie/Claire. My favorite one was Shannon and Sayid. I loved them and was so upset when they killed Shannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Anyone else watching Kimmel? Hilarious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Anyone else watching Kimmel? Hilarious! it's not on yet here! Still local news! I am not happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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