Susan in TN Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 We are now in Oklahoma. I've already had to call 911 and report a dangerous/drunk driver. It is not even 8 am. Alright now, let's hear it! OOOOooooooooook-lahoma Where the winds come sweeping down the plain.... I agree with nixing Moby, and since I hate Gatsby, would substitute Brideshead Revisited. For 10th graders? Maybe not. Is it American Lit? To Kill a Mockingbird? If it is American lit, then you'd probably better leave Gatsby in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 American lit. We read TKaM this year. You're no help! 😂 I only need to nix one more. That can't be too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJosMom Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 So treacherous!!! I called 911 on that dude. I'm planning next year's English class and need help narrowing nine works to six. So help me! I have already scratched ben franklin's autobiography. I will keep rip van winkle and the legend of sleepy hollow along with works by Longfellow. (One selection) So help me choose five of the following: The last of the mohicans The house of seven gables Moby dick The adventures of huckleberry Finn House of mirth The great Gatsby The old man and the sea. Tell me why you would keep or Toss. This is 10th grade English. On my phone in the car so sorry for primitive posting style. This will depend on your students, but... DD read Great Gatsby and HATED it. She was very distressed by what she perceived as the endorsement/acceptance of moral degeneracy to the degree that the moral messages were overshadowed by her outrage. It is likely that won't be an issue with 10th graders, but I was pretty surprised by the strength of her reaction; she tends to be very mature. Just a thought. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) I've never read Mohicans, Seven Gables, or House of Mirth, but it seems that one of these three should be the one to get the ax. Even though I hated Gatsby, I think you should keep it. :shudder: I think that you should read Benjamin Button and Bernice Bobs Her Hair instead of Gatsby. That's what we do. :D Edited March 6, 2016 by Junie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Pie! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 House of mirth is the only female author so I am loathe to axe it. I know nothing about it. These students managed TKaM this year so they can handle the themes of Gatsby. I've never read it, but it was college girl's favorite high school read. It was 10th or 11th grade for her. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I forgot to tell y'all about my great finds at the library book sale yesterday. For $1 each (one dollar!) I got a hardcover copy of The Wind in the Willows, *illustrated by Tasha Tudor*, and a hardcover copy of Kidnapped, *illustrated by N.C. Wyeth*. They are a little worn (dustjackets mostly) but otherwise in good condition. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Well, I'm following an EIL curriculum and I hesitate to switch out stuff, mostly because it makes it harder on me. (Runs away) What should we do next year? Edited May 24, 2016 by texasmama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I've not read several of those books so I need to figure this out and read them over the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'm thinking Mohicans gets the axe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJosMom Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Hi, everyone! Well-wishes for all the sickies. Safe travels for Tex. I'm heading to Critter's house with Lynn. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJosMom Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 On the lit issue, DD had no issues with To Kill a Mockingbird. She just found Great Gatsby to be rather loathsome. As for Shakespeare, Midsummer's Night Dream is just so, so much fun; I'd vote for that. (As a side note, Hamlet is Bravewriter's Shakespeare literary analysis play for the spring. Sign ups open on Monday. :hurray: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJosMom Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 AND.... GO ITT BB TEAM!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 On the lit issue, DD had no issues with To Kill a Mockingbird. She just found Great Gatsby to be rather loathsome. As for Shakespeare, Midsummer's Night Dream is just so, so much fun; I'd vote for that. (As a side note, Hamlet is Bravewriter's Shakespeare literary analysis play for the spring. Sign ups open on Monday. :hurray: ) I think it it fun, too. I only read tragedies in high school. His comedies are outrageous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 AND.... GO ITT BB TEAM!!! Thank you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Lynn Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Obviously, Gatsby is not heart warming, lol, but I don't remember any sense that the characters' choices are approved, so I think that helps. It's been a long time since I read it, but isn't Fitzgerald pointing out hypocrisies of their society? That usually resonates with teens, even if they get drug through the mud a bit. Maybe the society and lifestyle of Gatsby seemed so far removed from me that the immorality was less personally offensive. Honestly, For Whom the Bell Tolls bothered me more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Mohicans. Read instead The Literary Offenses of James Fenimore Cooper. A fiction writer could do worse than pay attention to what Twain has to say. I'd probably do either The Legend of Sleepy Hollow or Rip Van Winkle. I like Gatspy, but only because I love to hate a certain character. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Well, I'm following an EIL curriculum and I hesitate to switch out stuff, mostly because it makes it harder on me. (Runs away) Looking for an easier year. As it is, I already have to create a four week writing boot camp from a semester long curriculum and tackle a Shakespeare play from scratch since that is not part of the core materials. We're doing Hamlet this year. What should we do next year? Ah - if the curriculum is mostly written, then definitely stick with what they have and make cuts from there! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I remember liking Gatsby. I think it helps if the teacher likes it, though, and mine definitely did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Then I will try to like it. Never read it. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) We survived. Edited May 24, 2016 by texasmama 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 In Springfield and almost at the house. We survived. I don't know if I mentioned that dh and I both graduated from Evangel University in Springfield. I think some of my friends/teachers still perform in the symphony there. Andy's Frozen Custard and McSalty's Pizza are worth a visit. Also Kim's Korean BBQ if they are still there. Food memories. :D Dh's first job out of college was at the Taco Bell on Battlefield. He worked there for the summer until his teaching job started. Did you know Springfield was the birthplace of Cashew Chicken? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I don't know if I mentioned that dh and I both graduated from Evangel University in Springfield. I think some of my friends/teachers still perform in the symphony there. Andy's Frozen Custard and McSalty's Pizza are worth a visit. Also Kim's Korean BBQ if they are still there. Food memories. :D Dh's first job out of college was at the Taco Bell on Battlefield. He worked there for the summer until his teaching job started. Did you know Springfield was the birthplace of Cashew Chicken? Very cool! Now is a great time to visit your alma mater! :D 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Very cool! Now is a great time to visit your alma mater! :D The silly thing is that it would take us at least 10 hours to get there! Why can you get there in 6 hours? Not fair. Pout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Just because... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The silly thing is that it would take us at least 10 hours to get there! Why can you get there in 6 hours? Not fair. Pout. But getting there in 6 hours apparently also causes White Knuckle Syndrome. :) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junie Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) I have learned to estimate long distance travel by adding one hour per child. A trip that would take dh and me 6 hours can now take up to 12. :svengo: This is especially true when you consider nursing infants, potty-training toddlers, and kids who suffer from motion sickness. Edited to change I to me in the second sentence. Edited March 6, 2016 by Junie 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lots of little ducklings Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Tex -- You must must MUST keep Seven Gables. Then arrange a class field trip to visit me! it! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) So treacherous!!! I called 911 on that dude. I'm planning next year's English class and need help narrowing nine works to six. So help me! I have already scratched ben franklin's autobiography. I will keep rip van winkle and the legend of sleepy hollow along with works by Longfellow. (One selection) So help me choose five of the following: The last of the mohicans The house of seven gables Moby dick The adventures of huckleberry Finn House of mirth The great Gatsby The old man and the sea. Tell me why you would keep or Toss. This is 10th grade English. On my phone in the car so sorry for primitive posting style. You have no Steinbeck! Steinbeck got me through high school. "Grapes of Wrath", "East of Eden", "Cannery Row".... I love John Steinbeck. Edited March 6, 2016 by KrissiK 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Lynn Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Ellie, I didn't catch every word of that, but it was great! LOVE David Tennant! SO funny! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 So treacherous!!! I called 911 on that dude. I'm planning next year's English class and need help narrowing nine works to six. So help me! I have already scratched ben franklin's autobiography. I will keep rip van winkle and the legend of sleepy hollow along with works by Longfellow. (One selection) So help me choose five of the following: The last of the mohicans--keep The house of seven gables--horrid book, don't do this! Moby dick The adventures of huckleberry Finn--keep House of mirth--nope, 10th graders aren't ready for Wharton The great Gatsby--keep The old man and the sea.--do moby dick or old man and the sea---two books about battling fish is too many :) Tell me why you would keep or Toss. This is 10th grade English. On my phone in the car so sorry for primitive posting style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiewindmomma Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 So, I've read all of those books......what are you trying to accomplish with your 10th graders? I realize you're looking at American Lit--what about something by Willa Cather? Or Amy Tan? Or Toni Morrison? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Ivy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 In Springfield and almost at the house. We survived. Welcome!!! Head over to Arris Pizza for good gluten-free pizza or Zio's has wonderful gluten free pasta and flat bread. Cantina Laredo, I've heard, has good gluten free food. Aviary has really good gluten free crepes. (Their salted caramel is made in house and is divine.) Bair's is really good. I don't think it has a "gluten free" menu, but I always get their burgers (sans bun) and fries. (I'm not overly sensitive to cross contamination, though) HuHot has gluten free sauces and will do an allergen cleaning of the hibachi grill if you ask. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) The silly thing is that it would take us at least 10 hours to get there! Why can you get there in 6 hours? Not fair. Pout. Lol Edited May 24, 2016 by texasmama 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) So, I've read all of those books......what are you trying to accomplish with your 10th graders? I realize you're looking at American Lit--what about something by Willa Cather? Or Amy Tan? Or Toni Morrison? It's basically an American lit overview with writing prompts for 750 word essays using MLA citation. I want to stick closely to the curriculum because I need handholding and so do they. Because it will be a medium sized class and larger than the class this year, I want us all on the same page and following a curriculum. None of these students have done any writing in which they research and use several sources and cite in this manner. Edited May 24, 2016 by texasmama 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Thank you, Ellie, for some comic relief. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) I apologize for the lack of Steinbeck. Lol Thanks for the restaurant recs, Mary! I drove around a lot today with the boys and went to King Cash saver. Edited March 7, 2016 by texasmama 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Tex -- You must must MUST keep Seven Gables. Then arrange a class field trip to visit me! it! Seven Gables is in! The field trip is iffy. Kinda far. :D 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Ivy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) I apologize for the lack of Steinbeck. Lol Thanks for the restaurant recs, Mary! I drove around a lot today with the boys and went to King Cash saver. I just visited King Cash Saver for the first time the other day. If we lived closer, I would probably shop there more. Between them, HyVee, and Mama Jean's, I can stay pretty well stocked on gluten free items. Just north of Bass Pro (through the Sunshine intersection) is a used homeschool curriculum store (Pilgrim's Way). Redeemed (off National and near Zios) also has used curriculum. You know, just in case you're looking for something for next year. :) Edited March 7, 2016 by Southern Ivy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I just visited King Cash Saver for the first time the other day. If we lived closer, I would probably shop there more. Between them, HyVee, and Mama Jean's, I can stay pretty well stocked on gluten free items. Just north of Bass Pro (through the Sunshine intersection) is a used homeschool curriculum sore (Pilgrim's Way). Redeemed (off National and near Zios) also has used curriculum. You know, just in case you're looking for something for next year. :) I am always looking. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I am beyond tired. I keep falling asleep when I'm not supposed to. But I just tried to take a nap and couldn't. Bah. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I have a headache. I was walking into my room. I dodged my head to avoid the "Happy Birthday" banner hanging in the way and banged my head on the wall. Now, I have a head ache. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in TN Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I am beyond tired. I keep falling asleep when I'm not supposed to. But I just tried to take a nap and couldn't. Bah. Try KrissiK's head banging technique - it often works in cartoons. Plus birdies and stars to make it pretty. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lots of little ducklings Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (((Jean))) I took it for you, apparently. Bedded kids, sat down on couch, and just woke up now (11pm ET) :mellow: I cut in and painted ceilings all day. That is my excuse. Hopefully I will be able to fall back to sleep for real sleepy time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I groomed part of Rocky instead of napping. Now he looks very funny with part of him cut and part of him looking like an overgrown bear. But he's not going out on any doggy dates so it's ok. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJosMom Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Jean, the Weather Service says that there is another atmospheric river developing over yonder by you and headed our way. I hate atmospheric rivers. Could you please tell it to stay over there, out over the ocean? Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Well, I like that you believe so much in my powers, JJM! I'll do my best. (But don't hate me if it doesn't work.) A powerful booyah! Edited March 7, 2016 by Jean in Newcastle 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I like atmospheric rivers. We just get the rain where we are. Not much wind and flooding. Supposed to rain again tonight! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Booya/h, Jeanie! Booya/h! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJosMom Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Well, I like that you believe so much in my powers, JJM! I'll do my best. (But don't hate me if it doesn't work.) Never! Cuz this is you: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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