Situation with Robinson Family

[1Togo]

I am sorry that I posted this on the other boards. Honestly, I wasn't thinking. I never intended to upset anyone on those boards. Please accept my sincere apology for posting in the wrong place. In addition, I only posted a brief synopsis of the situation because I know there are people on these forums who use Robinson curriculum and might be interested in learning about the situation. In fact, there are some of us that even like the curriculum. When our family first began homeschooling and had almost no money for homeschooling, a set of Saxon books and the RC discs served us well for several years. I assumed those who weren't interested would just ignore my post and those who were interested would investigate further and then decide if they wanted to support the family in any way.

Edited March 19, 2011 by 1Togo

[amey311]

He comes across as pretty mild-mannered. And the fact that his sister is finding herself in a similar predicament makes this seem quite fishy to me.

 

 

 

Not necessarily. The three of them are studying in the same department. If they're working on degrees that are related at all or nearly identical, it might very well be hard - there may be no one who wants to advise on that topic.

 

I would find it more odd if they were all studying different things (one physics, one math, one sociology, for example) and none of them could find advisers.

[Jennifer3141]

Theoretically a crackpot might be kind, considerate and well mannered, but anyone who wants a window into Art Robinson's manner only has to Goggle "Art Robinson Rachael Maddow" to see how this man actually comports himself :001_huh:

Bill

 

That was a WILD ride!! :001_huh:

[nmoira]

I assumed those who weren't interested would just ignore my post and those who were interested would investigate further and decide if they wanted to support the family in any way.

I'm sure those not interested have ignored your post. I'm very interested because I live in Oregon, know people who have graduated from or work for the socialist Democrat stronghold under discussion, and am both shocked and angered that Robinson sees fit to make such allegations of wide-spread conspiracy and pay-back when he himself admits he doesn't have a shred of proof.

 

ETA: Well, more appalled than shocked, given his past statements.

Edited March 18, 2011 by nmoira

[Mommyfaithe]

That was a WILD ride!! :001_huh:

 

:confused: I think they both needed a :chillpill:

 

Thanks for the entertainment Bill....OY! :svengo:

 

Faithe

Edited March 18, 2011 by Mommyfaithe

[Slartibartfast]

Theoretically a crackpot might be kind, considerate and well mannered, but anyone who wants a window into Art Robinson's manner only has to Goggle "Art Robinson Rachael Maddow" to see how this man actually comports himself :001_huh:

Bill

 

That was a WILD ride!! :001_huh:

 

WWWWWOOOOWWWWW

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNVTFP9-iQ8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jnp2d8czU&feature=related

 

That is something else.

 

 

And really, if you are the type that blathers endless nonesense and not answer any questions one of the last people you want to go against is Rachel Maddow. :lol:

Edited March 18, 2011 by Sis

[lakotajm]

RE: This not being the place to discuss this kind of thing:

But this is the General forum. People discuss thier biopsies and kid's allergies here for Pete's sake. ; )

 

And certainly, a discussion of academia and how it operates is germane. Most of us have kids who we hope will be going on to college. I personally found universities to be full of political maneuvering-if you don't happen to agree with them. I was the leader of a campus libertarian/marijuana decrim group years ago and faced many unusual circumstances. It doesn't sound outlandish to one who has experienced it!

 

Lakota

[1Togo]

Lakota,

When I posted this morning, I wasn't thinking and posted on the curriculum forums.  Since my posts made some people angry, I apologized. The forum administrator moved the posts

Edited January 21, 2014 by 1Togo

[FaithManor]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAA, Bill! I think my head almost exploded. That's one craaaaaazy interview!

 

Faith

[lakotajm]

Well Fried Mind

I truly have NEVER heard that.

 

Well, that's funny, because that is exactly what I was thinking to myself when I finally got to read WTM for myself. I was like "OMG! My kid needs to do all that!?":001_huh::lol: I have since balked at implementing it, though I like some of the principles.

 

Lakota

[Starr]

Also, as someone who graduated from Reed College in Portland, I have to say that the idea that OSU and Southern Oregon U are dangerous hotbeds of radical leftist thought has me :lol: .

 

:lol:

[Halcyon]

—with most of that time spent in childhood daydreams —

Bill

 

 

NOT childhood DAYDREAMS!! Daydreams! Of all the things for an eight year old to be engaged in after 3 hours alone! Where's Tiger Mom when you need her?

 

[Jean in Newcastle]

I am sorry that I posted this on the other boards. Honestly, I wasn't thinking. I never intended to upset anyone on those boards. Please accept my sincere apology for posting in the wrong place. In addition, I only posted a brief synopsis of the situation because I know there are people on these forums who use Robinson curriculum and might be interested in learning about the situation. In fact, there are some of us that even like the curriculum. When our family first began homeschooling and had almost no money for homeschooling, a set of Saxon books and the RC discs served us well for several years. I assumed those who weren't interested would just ignore my post and those who were interested would investigate further and then decide if they wanted to support the family in any way.

 

I only saw this on the general board so don't know if people got mad that it was in the wrong place. But don't be upset that people are debating the Robinsons. Just because someone is a fellow homeschooler and has a curriculum that many people like, doesn't necessarily mean that we support every thing they do or say in their lives. It is good for us to get a general sense of someone who's name is known in homeschool circles and to be able to discern for ourselves what we think about it.

[1Togo]

I am not at all upset that people are debating the Robinson family or the curriculum. The posts have been interesting. There was one poster who was upset that I posted on the curriculum forum, and then several mothers were confused about that aspect of the thread. I wanted to acknowledge my mistake and apologize.

Edited March 19, 2011 by 1Togo

[Trish]

Will and Penny have time traveled from 1995 to aid the Japanese with the nuclear disaster. There is technology they have picked up while Lost In Space, that could help the situation, but the academic and military communities refuse to believe it is the same family that was sent into space with Dr. Smith and The Robot so many years ago. I think they should give Professor Robinson a chance -- he always managed to keep the Jupiter II running, he may be our last hope in Japan!

 

Sorry, the Japan crisis has me so perturbed I'm starting to channel Sixties TV shows. Next up: Batman and his utility belt, and the Professor and Gilligan with a jerry-rigged coconut.

 

[nmoira]

 

:)

 

Not a Robinson, but we could always go back a few Doctors:

 

 

I think we need all the help we can get.

Edited March 19, 2011 by nmoira

[Veritaserum]

It has been investigated. They said it didn't happen. That's all they're legally allowed to say. Interestingly, I don't see Art Robinson's children claiming any of this has happened. One would think they'd be suing if any of this were true. I certainly would be. Not for money - just for my stuff, my grades, my right to graduate.

 

WWWWWOOOOWWWWW

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNVTFP9-iQ8

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jnp2d8czU&feature=related

 

That is something else.

 

 

And really, if you are the type that blathers endless nonesense and not answer any questions one of the last people you want to go against is Rachel Maddow. :lol:

 

:svengo:

[LibraryLover]

:svengo:

 

I had never heard of the guy, but those Maddox tapes. Wow. "Madam. Mud. blah blah Smear me..." He sounds like he might have a mental illness.

[Veritaserum]

I had never heard of the guy, but those Maddox tapes. Wow. "Madam. Mud. blah blah Smear me..." He sounds like he might have a mental illness.

 

I was impressed by how calm she stayed. I would have been pretty frustrated!

[justamouse]

Also, as someone who graduated from Reed College in Portland, I have to say that the idea that OSU and Southern Oregon U are dangerous hotbeds of radical leftist thought has me :lol: .

Hijack

 

ohhh, Reed was in the book Colleges that Change Lives. after reading how wonderful it is there I really wanted to impose my parental authority on Dd and make her go. *g*

 

/hijack

[Spy Car]

I was impressed by how calm she stayed. I would have been pretty frustrated!

 

I think when she started banging her head against the desk it was a clue :tongue_smilie:

 

Bill

[Nicole M]

Will and Penny have time traveled from 1995 to aid the Japanese with the nuclear disaster. There is technology they have picked up while Lost In Space, that could help the situation, but the academic and military communities refuse to believe it is the same family that was sent into space with Dr. Smith and The Robot so many years ago. I think they should give Professor Robinson a chance -- he always managed to keep the Jupiter II running, he may be our last hope in Japan!

 

Sorry, the Japan crisis has me so perturbed I'm starting to channel Sixties TV shows. Next up: Batman and his utility belt, and the Professor and Gilligan with a jerry-rigged coconut.

 

 

"Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!"

[nmoira]

"Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!"

Change it to "Danger, Art Robinson! Danger!" and I think you've summed up the man's world view.

[Nicole M]

Change it to "Danger, Art Robinson! Danger!" and I think you've summed up the man's world view.

 

Uh huh.

[elizabeth]

Art Robinson is a kook and conspiracy-theorist of the most unhinged variety.

 

Robinson has denied HIV causes AIDS and believes exposure to low-levels of nuclear radiation is good for people (good news for the people of Japan). Robinson would actually have radioactive nuclear waste spread around the world for its health benefits.

 

Robinson also believes the best way to deal with toxic waste is to pump it to the bottom of the deep ocean floor. One could go on and on about Art Robinson's "ideas."

 

Tragically for the homeschool community, Robinson advocates for an educational model of home learning where children as young as six teach themselves with the aid of flash-cards and books but next to no actual parent involvement.

 

Art Robinson has zero credibility in my book.

 

OSU has released a statement:

 

It is regrettable that Mr. Robinson continues to spread these false claims, causing concern where none is due.* Despite the significant and ongoing attention that the university has given these matters, he has engaged in a pattern of inflammatory and reckless communication riddled with inaccuracies.

 

http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2011/mar/statement-regarding-recent-internet-postings-art-robinson-0

 

What a guy :glare:

 

Bill

 

IF I have not mentioned it lately, may I say I am ever so happy to see you here. Art Robinson is a kook is kind. There are numerous links if one takes the time to look where it is evident that he is unhinged. Not just marching to his own drummer but thinking he is the entire symphony. No thank you we are full up on crazy here....:lol:

[Rebel]

 

In many grad programs, you are admitted to work with a specific professor, and that professor is the one who sort of sponsors your admission and undertakes to fund you in their lab. It's very much an apprenticeship model in many places - especially in the hard sciences. If the person you were "apprenticed" to leaves, and doesn't take you with them for some reason, and, perhaps, you are a difficult person who hasn't made connections to anyone else in the department or who has actively alienated people, you are in an awkward position.

 

What she said!

 

We have a professor in my department who more than likely will not be getting tenure next year. His grad students are already making contingency plans for what they will do if he leaves. I can not think of one single professor that would willingly take on a grad student whose parent wanted to be that involved. As a matter of fact, just last fall, we had a grad student come to our department to interview with a potential professor/advisor. She brought her mother to the interview. The professor told us later that he didn't even consider her after that.

[Veritaserum]

I think when she started banging her head against the desk it was a clue :tongue_smilie:

 

Bill

 

:lol: I went back to look because I didn't see that earlier. It was in the second video. I'd had enough after the first one. :tongue_smilie: Still, I thought she stayed polite and fairly professional (as far as this type of interview goes). His behavior made for an extremely difficult interview.

 

I have to say, I am so very glad that my favorite homeschool guru (SWB) is a professional, polite, accomplished person. :)

[swimmermom3]

I read this and this, and he lost me at "DeFazio political machine." I would want a *lot* more information before giving credit to these allegations, especially when Robinson is so selective with the facts he presents about the 2010 election and with his characterization of OSU as a "liberal socialist Democrat stronghold." One wonders why his children would wish to attend such a school.

 

:smilielol5:He didn't really say that did he? Snort. The poor man has his Oregon Universities confused.:D

[Rivka]

Hijack

 

ohhh, Reed was in the book Colleges that Change Lives. after reading how wonderful it is there I really wanted to impose my parental authority on Dd and make her go. *g*

 

/hijack

 

The intellectual atmosphere there was just amazing. Everyone is so deeply, deeply interested in books and ideas and art and politics and and and. But it is very, very intense. In every way.

[silliness7]

:lol: I went back to look because I didn't see that earlier. It was in the second video. I'd had enough after the first one. :tongue_smilie: Still, I thought she stayed polite and fairly professional (as far as this type of interview goes). His behavior made for an extremely difficult interview.

 

I have to say, I am so very glad that my favorite homeschool guru (SWB) is a professional, polite, accomplished person. :)

 

I'll disagree and say that I thought she was very unprofessional. I don't know Art Robinson from Adam and don't have a dog in this fight. Maybe I am pre-disposed not to like Rachel Meddow or whatever her name is because I'm not a fan of mainstream media anyway. So there's my bias upfront.

 

She was sarcastic. She claimed she wanted to "get to know him" but then she said his statements were "crazy." Sounds like a pre-judgement as in I already think you are crazy and I'm going to nail you. She asked a ton of yes/no questions. Those are designed to get someone to incriminate themselves not so that you can "get to know them." Sounds like one could add lying to the list of her flaws.

 

The constant smirking, finger jabbing, eye-rolling, hand/arm flapping and exagerrated head movements were extraordinarily unprofessional for someone who does this for a living. I thought he flustered her by answering with his own questions directed towards her and by telling her what he thought about her interview tactics. Maybe that wasn't the best route for him to travel because he doesn't have typical politician charm. He wasn't able to slip through her fingers without anyone knowing that he had done so. He just came out and said what he thought. I think that'll get you killed in the world of politics...unfortunate commentary on the character of our nation. But I do think he flustered her and she was covering with her exagerrated physical movements.

 

Not to mention the fact that her questions WERE loaded and her word choice WAS intentionally inflammatory. She really could have benefitted from a classical education or at least a logic class or two. However, I'm pretty sure she does know what she is doing. She just doesn't have the character to see that it is WRONG. Too bad this is the quality of media we have to suffer through in order to sift through what's what out there.:tongue_smilie:

 

Sorry for the mini-hijack. I know nothing about Art Robinson. I just wanted to comment on the ridiculousness of the interviewer.

[elizabeth]

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/6/29/03533/1410

 

Ah The Usual Suspects. A little connect the dots between persons who have very close ties to Mr Robinson. Rushdoony(many likely have no idea that their church may have his beliefs woven into the underpinnings of their belief system), Gary North and his ilk. If you use G Henty in your lesson plans /syllabi, I have no use for you in my educational plans, my politics or home library. Pass.