Tree House Academy Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Lovely. I am so glad they threw that in there. :( What a tragic situation it is. I just really wish things like "homeschooled" wouldn't pop up in such stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PollyOR Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Do you have a link? http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-10-13-12-year-old-ny_N.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertechmom Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 To be fair, they do mention the child's school around here when such tragedy occurs. I wish they didn't it but they do include that tidbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 That is hoirrible! But....That's the child's background, and so I would think it's relevant in a news-story. Sadly. Remember that an entire movie was based on schooling families in Columbine, and most families with children in high school are not raising mass murderers. Did Andrea Yates kill her children because she was hsing? Of course not! But she was hsing at the time she killed them, so it was a part of the story. (Although, if she & Rusty had put them on a school bus that morning, some of them might still be alive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 To be fair, they do mention the child's school around here when such tragedy occurs. I wish they didn't it but they do include that tidbit. True...I guess I just hate the association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Did Andrea Yates kill her children because she was hsing? Of course not! But she was hsing at the time she killed them, so it was a part of the story. (Although, if she & Rusty had put them on a school bus that morning, some of them might still be alive). That story still makes me cry. :( I didn't realize she was homeschooling at the time. I wasn't, so I guess I never paid attention. What I remembered was that she had terrible postpartum depression and was told not to have more kids, but did anyway. And of course, there are images etched in my mind of the descriptions they gave of how she did it. UGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 That story still makes me cry. :( I didn't realize she was homeschooling at the time. I wasn't, so I guess I never paid attention. What I remembered was that she had terrible postpartum depression and was told not to have more kids, but did anyway. And of course, there are images etched in my mind of the descriptions they gave of how she did it. UGH! I know, it's so sad. She was hsing. I still think about her. My heart breaks for her. I want to turn back time and get her the medical help she needed and deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 That story still makes me cry. :( I didn't realize she was homeschooling at the time. I wasn't, so I guess I never paid attention. What I remembered was that she had terrible postpartum depression and was told not to have more kids, but did anyway. And of course, there are images etched in my mind of the descriptions they gave of how she did it. UGH! She was bi-polar and suffering from PPD. It was not just PPD alone. That story hit too close to home for me and was very hard for me to deal with. I think it bothered my hubby terribly as well but he was never really able to talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I know, it's so sad. She was hsing. I still think about her. My heart breaks for her. I want to turn back time and get her the medical help she needed and deserved. Since I am in graduate school for counseling/psychology in Texas, she gets talked about A LOT. I know one of her nurses. I want to turn back the clock and prosecute her xh and xmil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 A week or so before the article I am about to link, I talked to the (now dead) father about homeschooling the dd who killed him. http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou090429_mh_katy-father-shot.2ca926f.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersDozen Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 What a tragic situation it is. For me, tragic in that it was preventable: parents gone, shotgun in house accessible to the dc...:001_huh: If I leave some of my dc home alone they aren't allowed to go outside, turn on the stove/oven, light a match, etc.; I take every precaution to help them be safe. I honestly can't imagine not being home and having a gun in the house that was either not locked up or the kid knew where the key was, loaded...what were the parents thinking? I'm not against having guns and don't want to start a debate that's been argued here before, but this seems very irresponsible to me. One can teach a kid all about gun safety, set rules, think their kid won't be the one on the news, but then their kid is the one on the news. How horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Since I am in graduate school for counseling/psychology in Texas, she gets talked about A LOT. I know one of her nurses. I want to turn back the clock and prosecute her xh and xmil. At least for child endangerment. How could he have left the children with her when she was insane? He was the sane one. He was the one in a position to prevent the tragedy. I will never understand why he didn't end up with the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 A week or so before the article I am about to link, I talked to the (now dead) father about homeschooling the dd who killed him. http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou090429_mh_katy-father-shot.2ca926f.html You. Are. Kidding. Me. I can't believe this. Why did he want to homeschool her? Was he having issues with her behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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unsinkable Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 You. Are. Kidding. Me. I can't believe this. Why did he want to homeschool her? Was he having issues with her behavior? My guess? He wanted to homeschool her so he could s3xu@lly abuse her more regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Did you see the headline at the bottom.. boy shot after argument over video games, dies? What's going on? :( This is just really scary and heartbreaking and added to that the 12yo Joan posted...... :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Do compare to this article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-09-videogame-death_N.htm?obref=obinsite The police talk, random neighbors don't. And there's no mention of where or how the boys are schooled. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheryl Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Very, very sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree House Academy Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Did you see the headline at the bottom.. boy shot after argument over video games, dies? What's going on? :( This is just really scary and heartbreaking and added to that the 12yo Joan posted...... :confused: Insanely enough...the one who shot his brother over video games was NOT the same one in the article I linked. How sad is that? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy g. Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Speaking of guns, Dh was out of town, and the kids and I spent over 45 minutes killing a giant snake with a shovel and a Daisy BB gun. When I told my husband, he asked why we didn't use the shot gun. I told him that we couldn't find it. He said, "Oh, yeah, I hid it. I thought it was safer." I have to agree with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Insanely enough...the one who shot his brother over video games was NOT the same one in the article I linked. How sad is that? :( :( the idea of what a burden both big brothers will carry is heart breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela H in Texas Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 In regards to Andrea, her doctor would have been another I would have liked to see dealt with. There were a few issues in regards to her treatment, however, I know that doctor and wouldn't doubt there is more to the story. Sometimes, situations like Yates come about as a culmination of issues. I'm sure that Andrea, Andrea's children, and I are not her only victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4kiddies Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 My guess? He wanted to homeschool her so he could s3xu@lly abuse her more regularly. Why would you think that? There is no reference to any abuse in the article linked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Why would you think that? There is no reference to any abuse in the article linked. I'll admit, the cold bloodedness of how she killed him, coupled with the fact that she did not even try to cover it up or deny it, made me think she had (she thought) good reason, or was, at least, at the end of her rope and thought of no other way out. My first thought was sexual abuse too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'll admit, the cold bloodedness of how she killed him, coupled with the fact that she did not even try to cover it up or deny it, made me think she had (she thought) good reason, or was, at least, at the end of her rope and thought of no other way out. My first thought was sexual abuse too. Also, for me: She gave no reason for doing it. So it makes me think she is too ashamed to say it was s3xu@l abuse. That is consistent with many abuse victims. And statistics -- 12 year old girls who do this have usually been abused by the men they end up killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionfamily1999 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Also, for me: She gave no reason for doing it. So it makes me think she is too ashamed to say it was s3xu@l abuse. That is consistent with many abuse victims. And statistics -- 12 year old girls who do this have usually been abused by the men they end up killing. Of course, having read about all these boys killing each other you do have to wonder if she was just bored :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Of course, having read about all these boys killing each other you do have to wonder if she was just bored :( I'd bet my last dollar it was abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renee in NC Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'll admit, the cold bloodedness of how she killed him, coupled with the fact that she did not even try to cover it up or deny it, made me think she had (she thought) good reason, or was, at least, at the end of her rope and thought of no other way out. My first thought was sexual abuse too. I don't know - a kid in Chapel Hill killed his parents because they grounded him from prom. He killed them and left them in their room while he had an after prom party. Sometime people are just sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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