Who is Derek Owens. We have always used Chalk Dust (15 yr veteran).

Has anyone used either of these curriculums and what is your opinion.

Has anyone used this curriculum for writing in high school?

What is AIM? I have not heard of that. Thank you everyone for the options you have given me. i am looking into all 3.

Has anyone found a good online class for high school French? Veritas Press is full already. It would be French 1

I used shaded areas on the transcript to make it look like an official transcript. It seemed the larger universities didn't care but the smaller community colleges were a pain.

The cost in my opinion is way too high. I wish I could get my hands on the teacher's guide for Challenge B and 1 but I was told we were not allowed to buy it and that to buy it outside of CC was frowned upon. Not that I care. I will say the Challenge A geography was outstanding and may fork over the money for CA with my last child.

has anyone used this and do you like it?

I am not a big tester but I know my 5th grader is behind in math. Has anyone used the Singapore Primary series and how did they test? What about Horizon? Abeka? I have been using Abeka with my youngest and she loves math but my older one hates it. I have been using Horizons with her. I am thinking of going to Singapore for the older one. Or switching to Abeka. I can't decide. Does anyone have any thoughts?

I can't find a good spelling program. Has anyone ever used the Grammar of Spelling by Logos Press? Does it work and do your kids like doing it? What spelling program have you used that you would swear by. My girls are not doing that great in spelling. They are 2nd and 5th this year.

Oh that made me tear up and almost cry! That is the Perfect Answer. Bless your new life Scarlett.

There are some things that every citizen should know. Like the Pledge of Allegiance, the symbols of democracy, the symbols of our country, History of the founding of the country. Maybe she means those sort of things. How to serve in the community, chances at volunteerism. It sounds like she is just ignorant of homeschooling and doesn't know that we use real curriculum. Maybe she thinks we just teach adding and subtracting and the Bible all day. Ask her what she thinks Citizenship means and what is it she thinks is necessary information.

Yes I suppose you would be curious, and not knowing me would wonder if I did it to "feel special". But, uh, no. Feel special all by myself, don't need a public figure to help out in that department. But I suppose that happens all the time. And if you are a public figure or on a public forum, you don't have a whole lot of privacy to be violated. As for loyalty, that would mean there were teams. Sides. Picking a side. I haven't. I am on the side of the dead child, who was beaten to death for mispronouncing a foreign word. By 2 sicko parents who beat and abused their other children and hid in the world of homeschooling so they wouldn't be caught. I hope they get the electric chair because I believe in the death penalty. I just wish they would do it withing 60 days of conviction. The murder rate would drop overnight.

I went and looked at my email. I copied Joannes statement. I pasted it into the email. There are not any identifying statements in the email. It doesn't have Joannes name nor the boards name. So I guess he will be replying directly to me. I will post when and if I get it. Better?

Absolutely. That was the point of forwarding it to him. For him to explain himself to all of us. And to others that have the same view of him and his methods. Why would I not post his reply. Hopefully he will post his own reply. It is him who is being questioned. He should answer.

Ok, to the smiling part of spanking. You view spanking as hitting a child. Going up to a child and whaleing on them. and yes most spanking is this. This is wrong. This is not advocated by me or in my reading of the Pearls book, by them. I am sorry if my defending them makes some of you sick. I really am not trying to do that. But I don't like the way the book has been portrayed as a "whip you child until he repents" method. It is not. It is not, now it has been several years since I have read it, maybe he updated it and turned it into a whip and torture your child book as it is being portrayed here, and I just didn't get a copy. You are told to keep a pleasant, not angry face and to be in complete control of your self and to lightly swat, not raise your hand to the ceiling and with all your force bring it down on the child until he knows who is boss. But to get the attention of the child. And I do not recall at all the Pearls ever advocating the beating of a baby. Or the beating of a child at all. Maybe my memory is faulty or I missed that chapter. He has stated his disgust for child abusers and wife abusers numerous times. But I read the book. And I have corresponded with them numberous times. Next, I was wondering what the breach of etiquette that was being spoken of and have finally figured it out. I am blonde so maybe I am slow. I was not aware that these conversations were priviledged and that they were closed to the public. For all we know one of the Pearls may be members already. Maybe I am one of them. :glare: Seriously, how would you know? That is beside the point, the reason I forwarded the first post that Joanne made was because she accused him of being an accessory to murder. That is a serious charge. I want to him to know what is being said and what he is being blamed for by multiple people. I want to know what he has to say for himself. How will he explain it? I have found in the past that when I question him on something he responds. It may take a few weeks as they get thousands of letters (from child abusers no doupt) and he may respond tonight. But this being a breach of etiquette is something that did not occur to me. I wanted answers. This isn't the first time this charge has been lodged against him on this board. Why is that wrong? It is a public forum. Is there a fear of retalitation or a charge of slander? We have a right to voice our opinion of a public figure and he certainly is one. So tell me where the rule of etiquette that I breached was stated. Was it in the fine print when I joined years ago? Next, I do not go back and delete posts to cover up anything and am offended that anyone would suggest that I would. Maybe you worry about something that would occur to you to do but that would never occur to me. but I am from the south and I do like some of the Pearls teaching so that must make me slow. I also love the "Never Hit A Child" website too. Must make me bipolar. I disagree with some part of every child rearing book I have ever read and I have read dozens. I do feel sorry for the children of the ignorant who beat their children in the name of God. But people have been killing, maiming and torturing people in the name of God since the beginning of time> and in the name of multiple other gods too. It is wrong and sick period. As I stated in another thread, you know when you are hurting a child, you know when it is abuse, you know when you are doing it. It is no surprise. You just tell yourself you lost control.

I must say that I spend waaayyy too much time here and on the internet. It is a time sucker and family divider. So that I couldn't argue with. But while my views over time have gone else where and my methods are different for the most part, I will say that I read To Train Up A Child. I did not use the piece of plastic tubing. It hurt too much in my opinion when I hit myself with it. I did use a plastic spatula and a wooden spoon. I will also say in the book that you were to swat, not beat, not hit hard, but to cause a sting, not a bruise, not a gash, and that if used consistently with a smile and lots of hugs and kisses after One Spanking, and talk and pray with them. He also stressed NEVER let yourself get angry, that you must be in full control and smile at your child so that your child would know that you love them. I have spoken in person several times to him and his wife along with his older two married daughters and they are all the happiest family I think I have ever met. They are loving and in tune with one another. Their little children are joyful and very affectionate to their parents. Not afraid and definitely not jumpy when their parents called them or verbally instructed them. But they were obedient and happily complying children full of energy and playfulness. The Pearls genuinely seemed to enjoy their children's loud and boistrous activity. A far cry from the mind controlling ogre he is portrayed to be. A person's countenance is something that can be read. You can have a fearful one, a timid one, an angry one, a sad one or a very controlled one. The one that I saw across the board in the Pearl's immediate and extended family was one of joy. Pure happiness and a feeling of belonging that they had together as a family unit. I haven't heard of one of them being arrested yet for drugs or child abuse. I am sure that they have been brought to their local authorities attention numerous times by "enemies" of his methods. And every one of his children are Godly young men and women who have not left and gone astray. So he must have done something right. And they love and enjoy his company. They send their kids to his house. That in itself says something to me that they trust him with their own children. You can take any advice, and pervert it. Those people who killed their daughter were child absuers. They were not innocent parents taken captive by false teaching and forced to beat a child to death. It takes deep anger, perversness and an extremely cruel heart to look at a little baby girl and beat her to death. You know you are doing it. You Know IT. It is no surprise when she stops breathing because her little heart was broken with the first blows from the ones she wanted to love. Those People should be hanged. They killed a little girl over a period of time and intentionally tortured her. And now they are trying to cover it up by screaming they were using a "technique". They are murderers and have no part in the Kingdom of God. It was a malicious and deliberate death.

The Thread. And the articles. I wonder what he will say.

Ok, I used Ted Tripps stuff and Michael Pearls. Of course all my kids survived without child abuse charges being lodged against me and they aren't getting arrested or anything, doing drugs or sleeping with their girlfriends or boyfriends. I also haunt the "Never Hit A Child" website and love it. I think that you have to decide what kind of parent you want to be and you have to be on the same page as your spouse because two methods will only cause confusion. If you can't get on the same page I would definitely espouse Grace Led Parenting. Never ever, ever, ever use any spanking instrument that you cannot stand hitting yourself with as hard as you can. If you do this test, you will never use a belt, piece of plumbing, piece of leather or a sturdy stick. You should never use one on a child anyway. I hit myself with a belt one time when my son was about 5 and my whole family was getting on to me that he was a brat and out of control (I think he spilt 2 cups of milk at my in-laws in one night and was vibrating in the chair as young boys tend to do) but my point was that I hit myself to see what it would feel like to spank my little pride and joy with. For the record I was spanked numerous times with a belt when I was little and it only stung. But when I hit myself with the proferred instrument of my dh choosing, I threw it in the back of the closet and dared anyone to touch him with it. Yes he was a brat. Most kids are at some point. But as you see in my signature, which I should add Dean's List for Freshman Fall Semester, he turned out ok. Without the beatings. I saved them for when he was a teenager. :D I use a lot of the methods describe in the Keeping Our Children's Hearts, The Heart of Anger and Shepherding a Child's Heart. Sometimes I swat my 7 year old because she can send you to the mental institution and sometimes she can push you so far you have to leave the room. But I do leave the room and sit her little butt on the hearth. Until further notice which usually means til I have forgotten that I am mad and can talk rationally. She hates the hearth. I mean hates it. She would rather be popped with the spoon. So I love the hearth!:D Read them all. Don't depend on one method. Find yours and the ones that keep your children's faces soft and not hardened with anger. Then you know that you are doing the right way.

Forwarded this to Michael Pearl for his input. It seems only fair since he is the one being accused of accessory to murder.

Praying.

If she is arrested, which I agree she should be, who will take her kids? Does she have family. Where are the kids now? I can't help but worry about them. The dad is in prison and the mom seems to be heading that way. What is going on in that home.

:iagree::iagree: Paula Deene especially annoys me. She lives about 10 miles from me and I knew her 15 years ago. She DID NOT have the sickening accent that she has now. Almost everyone I know thinks she is an embarassment. Rich embarrassment, but one nevertheless!:D My son has a friend in Scotland and she said that the Scots love southern accents. THEY think it sounds great! So I am going with that!:001_smile:

ummm, somewhere in Nov/Dec according to the textbooks. but we only use them half the time. Math is the major source of textbooks and English. Everything else is eclectic. So probably way ahead of public and private schools!;)