tnmomofboys Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I have a friend who frequently has too many kids for her vehicle and she will just double buckle them. What are your thoughts on this? It really bothers me so I try to always avoid my kids ever going with her. Even if she has room for mine, I am afraid she will add more. Am I being extreme on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moni Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) Am I being extreme on this? Too extreme for......what ? It's your call, you are responsible for your own kids. Even if you are Too Extreme...you still should probably go with your better judgment. :) Edited July 28, 2009 by Moni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbows Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 if my kids dont have their own seat and seat belt in a car, they don't ride in that car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissel Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I have a friend who frequently has too many kids for her vehicle and she will just double buckle them. What are your thoughts on this? It really bothers me so I try to always avoid my kids ever going with her. Even if she has room for mine, I am afraid she will add more. Am I being extreme on this? No, I don't think so. Seat belts are to be used the way they were designed to be used for the car, and as they were safety tested for the car. Any other use, especially with other people's children (!) is irresponsible. I wouldn't let my kids ride with her, ever, and I'd have a hard time not saying something about it to her with regard to her kids and any others she might drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaT Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I never double buckle kids in my car, and am very particular about who they ride with. No one I would send them off with would ever double buckle a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I never heard of this til we moved to Dallas, and some friends occasionally double-buckled. I didn't think to object then. Of course, we followed the law and kept ds in his car seat...until he was 2! What were they all thinking back then? (And farther back--there weren't ANY seat belts...) Now I'm much more safety-conscious. If she ever questions you, just tell her the truth--double-buckling doesn't seem safe and you feel more comfortable taking your kids yourself. If she's offended, maybe it will be just the thing to get her to think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmosis Mom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I do occasionally double-buckle my *own* kids, but never anyone else's (except maybe once and I had asked then). I also discovered that not everyone uses the buckle and rarely let my kids ride with others. Because if *I* occasionally double-buckle my own kids, then it's not OK for others to do that or ignore kids wearing seat-belts. All that said, and then recently we had a couple of surprises with some friends I was sure took the seat-belt serious. They had their toddler bounce around in the car as he wished> We once got stopped locally by an officer who saw two kids were double-buckled in the third row and he just asked us to drive carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I would absolutely not allow my kids in her car. My kids *know* the rules about seat belts, but if they had an adult insisting they do something wildly unsafe, they might be confused or intimidated into doing as that adult told them. I don't want to put them in that position. It's unsafe, it's (generally) illegal. No way, no how. And if she asked why my kids couldn't ride with her, I would tell her honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmermom3 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 if my kids dont have their own seat and seat belt in a car, they don't ride in that car :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgm Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I never double buckled. The restraints will be in the wrong positions on their bodies which will cause severe internal injuries in an accident. Then add in a side impact possibility and you have heads cracking because they are sooo close to each other. If it's a child sitting on another's lap...the picture isn't pretty. Child will likely be crushed. I didn't let others drive the children when they were in infant/toddler seats b/c it is so difficult to train a person on how to buckle correctly, even if our seats did fit their vehicle. Most accidents are close to home. http://www.babycenter.com/viewArticle.htm?articleId=64875&showAll=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katemary63 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I have to admit to double buckling my dd with her best friend after I asked her mother's permission. I would never let my dd ride with another parent double buckled, but I have done it a couple of times myself. Not good, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I would not allow it. Period! I have rather strong opinions on this so I will just leave it at that. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplain Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 If my kids can't ride both as safely as possible and legally, we have to decline. I also won't transport others' children if I can't do it legally and safely, regardless of the other parent's opinion. I'm a HUGE stickler for proper carseat and seat belt use. I bet most of y'all would roll your eyes at the lengths I go to in this area, but when it is either kids or my car, I get make the rules. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty Mathy Mom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I have twice. Both times it was because of a car breakdown. The alternative would have been to wait by the side of the road with the kiddies until someone with a bigger vehicle could come pick us up. In other words, not unless there is an emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristusG Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'm very particular about who my children ride with. 99.9% of the time, I'm driving them. Other than that they have ridden with my husband and my parents. I would NEVER allow anyone to double buckle my children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Then add in a side impact possibility and you have heads cracking because they are sooo close to each other. Even other directions of impact can cause head-cracking when children are buckled together. Just so dangerous. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiCO Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I have a friend who frequently has too many kids for her vehicle and she will just double buckle them. What are your thoughts on this? It really bothers me so I try to always avoid my kids ever going with her. Even if she has room for mine, I am afraid she will add more. Am I being extreme on this? I admit, I have double-buckled my kids with a cousin the same size, with sil's permission. On two occasions. I would never double-buckle someone else's kid in my car. On the same note, my dd went to Albuquerque (from Denver) with a friend- they took all the seats out of their van and had the kids spread sleeping bags out on the floor. I didn't even know about this for about a year, when dd told me it was weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 :001_huh: wow. I've been living under a rock, I guess. I've never heard of this. We have mandatory car seat laws & recently new laws for boosters - until kid is 9 yo or 4'9" regardless of weight. And you can't smoke with kids in cars here either. Libertarians are all bursting blood vessels here in beautiful British Columbia. I don't let people drive my kids unless I know them very well, have checked their licence for accidents and speeding tickets, done a background police check and they have a current defensive driving course certificate. .>>>kidding! <<< But that's what I wish I could do. So what I do instead is drive my kids everywhere myself..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaZ Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 whaaaaa..... She buckles more one kid in the same belt?!?!?!? No, she would not be transpoting my children under any circumstances. Nope. Not even in an emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Illegal. Unsafe. Stupid. Utterly unacceptable. Inconceivable. A showstopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsunshine Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Am I being extreme on this? Absolutely not, imo. This is an extremely unsafe practice. I would not allow my children in this woman's car under any circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 No offense to friend, but is she got caught in Cali , it would be a big fine. That is a big whopping no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japhmi Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 No, never, not in a million years. And no. My child would never ride in that persons car regardless of if there was space - because they've shown that they are irresponsible with the safety of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rain Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Isn't this illegal? :001_huh: I wouldn't even consider it. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ereks mom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) I would not allow it. Period! I have rather strong opinions on this so I will just leave it at that. Dawn :iagree: :iagree:[ Edited July 29, 2009 by ereks mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillieBoy Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 No offense to friend, but is she got caught in Cali , it would be a big fine. That is a big whopping no. :iagree: I think here in Washington we have some of the strictest seat-belt laws in the country. Kids have to be in their own booster seat until they are 8 years old or over 4'9". I have never heard of double seat-belting until this thread, wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean_eyes Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I would not allow it. Period! I have rather strong opinions on this so I will just leave it at that. Dawn :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingersmom Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I have never ever heard of this. And more importantly I can't imagine that someone would be so stupid to do such a thing. Get a bigger car or don't take so many kids in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phathui5 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I think it's time for a bigger car. If you can't do that, then she needs to stay home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcinnc Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 No, I would not allow this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I had never heard of this until I moved here. I was shocked to put it mildly. Never. ever. DH went ballistic when he heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I have on occasion allowed adults in the car to double buckle; I won't make the car go without everyone buckled, but if an adult wants to buckle improperly, that's their problem; at least they're strapped down so less likely to become a human projectile and injure me in a wreck. I won't take kids in my car if they won't all fit. I will put the oldest/biggest child who would otherwise be in a booster in the middle lap belt, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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