DawnM Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 This makes me sad. I didn't know he was battling demons behind the scenes. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07/painter-thomas-kinkade-autopsy-results_n_1498483.html?ncid=webmail1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissad2 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I had a feeling it would be something like that. Somewhere in the back of my head I remember a news story about him being arrested for DUI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiana Daniels Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 That's so sad! You never truly know what other people are dealing with behind closed doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Kinkade's outrageous drunken behavior in public was well-reported upon prior to his death. His fraudulent business practices with gallery-owner franchisees were also well reported before his dearth, as was his practice of selling prints with value-added "touch ups" applied by people other than himself as works of value. His products themselves were pure kitsch that rank with black-velvet painting of Elvis and poker-playing dogs. H. L. Menkin was spot-on when he said, "no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nyssa Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) Goodness gracious! Perhaps he suffered and maybe he did wrong, but there's room in American culture for a range of types of art, from fine art to homemade to yes, kitsch. Why not, if people like it? ETA: I personally enjoy a lot of his pictures! Edited May 8, 2012 by Little Nyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonshineLearner Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 How incredibly sad :( I love his work.... Sad that "Success" doesn't equal happiness :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNC Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Did anyone see the movie about his early life - Christmas Cottage? Netflix has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Well I'm no fan of his work or business practices (in fact that's putting it very mildly,) still I am sorry he suffered, but PEEING ON WINNIE THE POOH? Now that's just taking poor taste too far! :glare: astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairyMom Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Well I'm no fan of his work or business practices (in fact that's putting it very mildly,) still I am sorry he suffered, but PEEING ON WINNIE THE POOH? Now that's just taking poor taste too far! :glare: astrid :iagree: I hope he is finally at peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DianeW88 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Well I'm no fan of his work or business practices (in fact that's putting it very mildly,) still I am sorry he suffered, but PEEING ON WINNIE THE POOH? Now that's just taking poor taste too far! :glare: astrid I was never a fan of his work. Too fake and manufactured looking to me. So he was never really on my radar. But I'm sorry...you DO NOT urinate on Pooh Bear! That pretty much tells me all I need to know about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) I'm not a fan of his work, his business practices, or some of his other personal choices, but his work has made a lot of people very happy, and I think that's worth a lot. Also, the fact that he was able to market his artwork so brilliantly has probably served as encouragement and inspiration to many aspiring artists, and has also helped the public at large to be more aware of art and artists in general. I have heard several people say that a Thomas Kinkade print was the first piece of art that they ever purchased, and if that single purchase led them to have an interest in other artists' work, I think that's a very good thing. I may not be a fan of his work, but Thomas Kinkade was able to capture a certain feeling of warmth and comfort in his paintings that appealed to millions of people, and their taste in art is every bit as valid as mine is, so I would never criticize anyone for purchasing any kind of artwork. Edited May 8, 2012 by Catwoman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Kinkade's outrageous drunken behavior in public was well-reported upon prior to his death. His fraudulent business practices with gallery-owner franchisees were also well reported before his dearth, as was his practice of selling prints with value-added "touch ups" applied by people other than himself as works of value. His products themselves were pure kitsch that rank with black-velvet painting of Elvis and poker-playing dogs. H. L. Menkin was spot-on when he said, "no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." Bill Well he's dead now, so.... I'm amazed at how often valium is connected to accidental overdoses. That's a sketchy drug to prescribe. I'm glad I'm not a doctor. It's not an easy task to know who you can prescribe some of these drugs without them killing themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I was never a fan of his work. Too fake and manufactured looking to me. So he was never really on my radar. But I'm sorry...you DO NOT urinate on Pooh Bear! That pretty much tells me all I need to know about him. Yuppers. There ain't no goin' back from peein' on the Pooh Bear. astrid P.S. I suppose it could have been worse....he could have done as the name suggests...... no. No one could do that to the Silly Old Bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I'm not a fan of his work, his business practices, or some of his other personal choices, but his work has made a lot of people very happy, and I think that's worth a lot. Also, the fact that he was able to market his artwork so brilliantly has probably served as encouragement and inspiration to many aspiring artists, and has also helped the public at large to be more aware of art and artists in general. I have heard several people say that a Thomas Kinkade print was the first piece of art that they ever purchased, and if that single purchase led them to have an interest in other artists' work, I think that's a very good thing. I may not be a fan of his work, but Thomas Kinkade was able to capture a certain feeling of warmth and comfort in his paintings that appealed to millions of people, and their taste in art is every bit as valid as mine is, so I would never criticize anyone for purchasing any kind of artwork. :iagree: with all of this. But peein' on the Pooh? :svengo: (sorry---) astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 :iagree: with all of this. But peein' on the Pooh? :svengo: (sorry---) astrid Well, I think it goes without saying that it's beyond wrong to desecrate Pooh Bear. Everything I have read (for many years) has suggested that Thomas Kinkade was not at all a nice man, and that his Christian rhetoric was all for show, just to sell more of his work, so that has definitely colored my opinion of him (and I probably wouldn't have purchased his work, even if I'd liked it,) but if sitting in front of the fireplace and looking at a Kinkade painting makes people happy, he still did a good thing -- even if his motives were suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsbaby Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 He may have had his personal failures, but I can't deny he was talented. It may not be everyone's style, but come on, the guy could paint. I'd love to crawl into one of his paintings of those beautiful cottages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I may not be a fan of his work, but Thomas Kinkade was able to capture a certain feeling of warmth and comfort in his paintings that appealed to millions of people, and their taste in art is every bit as valid as mine is, so I would never criticize anyone for purchasing any kind of artwork. My grandmother loved his paintings, and just that remembrance of her is a comfort to me. Isn't that why art transcends so many things, including taste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 They always looked psychodelic to me. Too garish. Colors to unrealistic, I guess. I don't know. And whether or not he could paint is debatable. ;) He sure could SELL paintings, though. astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2jjka Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 That is very sad. I did like his paintings. As far as Winnie the Pooh...that is horrible, but it was the Disney version of Pooh...(And sometimes I'm of the same opinion as Kincaid as far as that is concerned. :glare: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 That is very sad. I did like his paintings. As far as Winnie the Pooh...that is horrible, but it was the Disney version of Pooh...(And sometimes I'm of the same opinion as Kincaid as far as that is concerned. :glare: ) Well that's true....but still...... :tongue_smilie: astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamouse Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) So sad. Broken people do strange things. I actually liked his work before his "Light" phase where he cutsied everything up. Here's a difference Here's a great article on his earlier work (which you should probably keep an eye out for). Here's another. Edited May 8, 2012 by justamouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Interesting. I've never seen anything of his that wasn't garish colors with too much yellow on mystical thatched-roof cottages that sit dangerously close to curiously mud-free bubbling brooks. astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Well he's dead now, so.... I'm amazed at how often valium is connected to accidental overdoses. That's a sketchy drug to prescribe. I'm glad I'm not a doctor. It's not an easy task to know who you can prescribe some of these drugs without them killing themselves. Me too; it was the first thing I thought of when I read the article about his death. Seems when it's mixed with alcohol bad things happen. astrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthwestMom Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Not a fan, but I am incredibly sad that his choices led him and his family into sorrow, pain, and his own early death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosy Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Kinkade's outrageous drunken behavior in public was well-reported upon prior to his death. His fraudulent business practices with gallery-owner franchisees were also well reported before his dearth, as was his practice of selling prints with value-added "touch ups" applied by people other than himself as works of value. His products themselves were pure kitsch that rank with black-velvet painting of Elvis and poker-playing dogs. H. L. Menkin was spot-on when he said, "no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." Bill I resent that--I love poker-playing dogs. :glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 My grandmother loved his paintings, and just that remembrance of her is a comfort to me. Isn't that why art transcends so many things, including taste? Yes, exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 So sad. Broken people do strange things. I actually liked his work before his "Light" phase where he cutsied everything up. :iagree: Also, we have no idea what kind of paintings he was doing "just for fun." He may have been doing some incredibly cool things that had nothing to do with the whole "painter of light" thing. I know a lot of people knock him down for his gimmicks, but who among us wouldn't have wanted to capitalize on something that was working for us and making us very successful and famous -- particularly as an artist, which is a tough way to even eke out a living, let alone become famous worldwide? (Hopefully, our business practices would be more honorable, but I'm just speaking in general terms.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Kinkade's outrageous drunken behavior in public was well-reported upon prior to his death. His fraudulent business practices with gallery-owner franchisees were also well reported before his dearth, as was his practice of selling prints with value-added "touch ups" applied by people other than himself as works of value. His products themselves were pure kitsch that rank with black-velvet painting of Elvis and poker-playing dogs. H. L. Menkin was spot-on when he said, "no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." Bill This was portrayed in a Law and Order episode, that was obviously a spoof on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 PEEING ON WINNIE THE POOH?:eek: I had to click through to make sure it wasn't a euphemism. On the bright side, at least it was Disney's Pooh and not Shepard's. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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