Jack Prelutsky. That is all you need know. :001_cool:

Darlin', I am CLINGING to this!!!! I will tell DD in the AM. Thank you!

Coffemama: We are halfway through Season Two and do not have the DVD's. Nonetheless, DD (eleven) does the work independently. Her exams have all been in the A++ to A range. HTH.

I took my DD and her friend, both eleven, out of town for a two-day mini-spring break mini-vacation (Yay me. And, yes, I am drinking wine now.) On our way back home late this afternoon, we stopped at a major fast food outlet known for it's loud-haired clown. One of the short people had to use the facilities and, usually, I will then purchase a drink or snack out of sheer guilt. However, while we were in said facilities waiting for an open stall, we heard a person flush and saw her leave. Then leave. Without washing her hands. Wearing a uniform. When we left the facilities, said dirty-handed uniformed person was in the kitchen. Eww. My DD announced, "I will never eat anything here ever again. Ever." Word, sister. Thank you all for letting me share this horrible moment from my day.

Another bump. Good luck.

I'm in the tears and chills camp. Thank you, Lord Jesus, for answered prayers. I will continue praying for you and DD. Blessings to both of you during the days ahead.

BTW, posted here without issue.

This just happened to me on a post with no links or images. It has never happened before. I also got the malware message-umm, no, DH has this baby locked down like Fort Knox. I also requested a message be sent to the moderator asking why it happened. I will post here if I get a response.

:hurray: Yay! I've been watching this thread and I'm so glad to hear your good news. A word of caution about Toby: IME, Once a runner, always a runner. Ours is Shadow; I saw him hit by a car and, $1200 in vet bills later ( :eek: ,) he was ours. That was YEARS ago. We still have to be careful with him (and our animals live better than most people, so it's definately not a deprived home life!). We now live out in the country (i.e., raptors, coyotes, the occasional lion, and doofuses who think our quiet country road is a highway), he's quite elderly (13-14 years old), and just last night he found a hole in the fence and DH was out with the flashlight. Oy vey. BTW, I really don't mean to rain on your parade. I am so happy, especially for your DD. I hope that my experience is just that, and that Toby settles in and gives up his wanderlust.

Caveat: I am not familiar with Hake, so I just looked at the Table of Contents and Sample Lesson online. Honestly, I think this is an "apples to oranges" comparison. Hake is a more traditional "school-ish" approach; it looks like it is intended to be the next step in a multi-year curriculum and is very broad. AG is GRAMMAR; it uses a direct, take-no-prisoners approach. It is intended to be a complete, immersive approach to grammar. The program is divided into three "seasons," and can be done over 1, 2, or 3 years. The first two seasons cover all the components of a sentence and diagramming that you'll need to know (Program view. I think some folks on here who are far more proficient than I may have some criticisms.) The third season then applies punctuation, the theory being that understanding the sentence components is necessary foreknowledge to proper punctuation. I have a 6th grade DD, started Season 1 in September, and are now mid-season 2 (closer to the end, actually.) I have been somewhat amazed at how much has been covered and by how well she has retained the information. I really think this will come down to what your goals are, because it appears to me that the two are quite different in approach. Good luck!

:iagree: Oh, yeah, sure. Just a harmless little informative missive. That kept half the world on edge for days. Yup. Face it, Um_2_4, you are the Queen of April Fool's Day. :laugh:

Update???? :lurk5:

I'll second the question. And, thank you!

Seriously, this is annoying. Would you care to publish the phone number so that we can help you "take care o'bidness?" :toetap05:

No. But I feel your pain. :(

Honestly, I think it would be a bit young for your daughters. I got a subscription for my 11 year old DD. She played it for a while, but finished most of the games and lost interest. HTH. Oh, wait. Went back to your siggy. I only saw the 15 and 17 year olds at first glance. Oops! The younger would likely enjoy it for the summer.

I say go for the Zo. Just look for sales. (My DH is a dedicated online cheapskate, errr, shopper. I use my Zo for multi-grain breads and it's fab. Latest loaf had 7-grain cereal, combo of spelt, buckwheat, teff, wheat, and all purpose flours, almond meal, flax, and chia. Baked it in the Zo [you can also just use the dough cycle and free bake], and it came out fluffy and fabulous. :thumbup1: ) If you just can't swing it, I would avoid the cheaper ones. They are an exercise in frustration. IMO.

As someone who got to sit on the frontlines and watch CPS in action (as a juvenile prosecutor), I would not unleash the hounds of bureaucratic hell on another family unless I was very sure that the situation was abuse and not just parenting choices I disdain. Please remember that "professionals" in Massachusetts know more about mitochondrial disorder than do the acknowedged experts in the field. (And, yes, I know that social workers are the salt of the earth and right up there in the pantheon of the gods with single mothers. But some of them are small-minded bureaucrats with unbelievable power. And enjoy it.)

:iagree: It sounds to me as if you have done a wonderful job of explaining to your DD what is and is not appropriate in her relationships, so good job, Mama. However, I suspect that your 12 year old DD is IN NO WAY prepared to deal with this type of problem. This boy clearly has boundary issues, and I suspect that he's a burgeoning into a controlling little man. Lots of adult woman with far more social experience than your DD have no idea how to deal with this type of situation when it first presents. I do not know the exact situation, so I'm speculating here, but I would certainly advocate becoming VERY directly involved. Good luck to you and DD. My DD is almost that age, and the transition into less-sheltered relationships is very challenging. :grouphug: Edited to add: My professional experience was as a prosecutor, including many years prosecuting juveniles. I saw more domestic violence cases than you might suspect. The boy's behavior raises red flags for me.

Thanks for the link!

Ah, and this highlights what is, for me, the worst impact of Common Core. There are very few textbook providers for the public school market and they produce essentially generic material. Doesn't really matter where you're located; you're going to get the generic material with possibly some minor tweaking. I am one of those old-school types who think that the whole "laboratory of the States" idea was a good one. In many different contexts.

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Thank you, ladies. I appreciate all the advice. Yesterday afternoon, following redsquirrel's suggestion above, I had DD try the challenge problems at the end of Chapter 1. As predicted by EndOfOrdinary, her first reaction was :huh: . I just said (after looking at the solutions manual-I am soo not an organic thinker), "Try ordering it in pairs." DD, pause, "Oooooh! I get it." Breezed right through the section, with 2 minor hicuups (solved with same level of minor direction from me.). So then I was the one :huh: . After the lesson, I asked what she thought about it. She said "It's fun." (same reaction to Zaccaro). Does she want to switch? "No, let's just finish Lial's." (Which she describes as "tedious.") Again, me :huh: . I think I'm still stumped. My inclination is just to say we're changing curricula and just do it, BUT I am really trying to give her control over what I can (she's at that age) and Lial's is getting the job done. We have no issues with comprehension (When she makes errors, I simply hand her the problem and say "look at this and tell me where you went wrong." Invariably, she picks it right up. But she still makes goofy mistakes.) However, based upon what I know about my child and what I've now seen, I suspect she really is the kind of kid for whom AoPS was written. Ack. This parenting is hard work. Maybe I should just send her to school and let the experts do all the thinking for me? :lol: (I am constantly amazed at the knowledge and wisdom shared on these boards. Truly, thank you to those who responded; I appreciate your help.)

Here's the problem: We started Lial's Pre-Algebra before I received AoPS, and I gave the short person the choice of which to use (My original plan was to use both. Once I had both in my possession, I was afraid that it would be too much [volume].) She decided to just keep on with Lial's. Now we're to Chapter 5 in Lial's and it's just not a good fit. She makes an unusual number of errors (just took a test today and got an 84%.) The errors are just sloppy mistakes. I do not believe that she has a comprehension problem, I believe she has a boredom problem. When she was at a Christian school and doing Horizon's math we had the same problem. I characterize it as "doing her math with half her brain tied behind her back." It's as if the material, to her, is so easy that she doesn't bother to think. On Friday's, we do Zaccaro's Challenge Math which she LOVES. No problems with sloppy mistakes. Here's the question: Looking at AoPS, I think that the approach will be a better fit for DD. What I want to know is whether we need to start at the beginning. DD is "half-way through pre-algebra" and doesn't want to "start over." I hate to make a change that she will perceive as a failure. Can one skip material in AoPS or does that create more problems than it solves? Should we just persist with Lial's and make the change when we move into algebra? (I have Foerster's and will likely be purchasing AoPS.) I would very much appreciate any suggestions or advice. Thank you in advance!

No. :001_smile: