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  1. Thanks! They actually assigned the kids Khan sections for tomorrow and Friday. What I remember from looking at Khan a while ago is that it's very well done, but also as boring as watching a teacher write equations on a board, so I was looking for something a bit different. I'll try it tomorrow, though, and see how engaged she is. At least I can be pretty sure they'd teach in the same way I would.
  2. Thanks so much, Ellie. I think my fear is that she's missing 3.5 months of school (they've been out since mid-March and their school continues through June 25.) So the other kids (not all, I realize) will be progressing, while by the time she returns after Labor Day she'll have been out of school for 6 months. I don't think we can let math go that long, and expect her to recover the time next year...I just don't want her to go through the frustration in Sept. of feeling like she's behind, hating math even more. (So yes, deschooling was the wrong term. But I obviously don't want her doing pages of rote problems...I just don't know what to do that will help her to enjoy math again.) She's incredibly creative and I want to take advantage of that, something she doesn't get to express in PS. She's artistic and she loves to invent, but she's NOT a self-starter, so I have to find ways to jumpstart that creativity, but I'm at a loss. I think I mentioned MCT because I was drooling over it years ago, looking forward to her being old enough...Maybe it doesn't make sense, but I do want her to learn how to research and write effectively on topics she likes. That's why I was considering unit studies, or project based learning, but I have no real idea how to put a unit study together for a child this age.
  3. I'm sure there are several in this position now! I had my daughter home till she was seven, then made the difficult decision to try PS on a trial basis. Well she enjoyed school, for the most part, so we kept her there. Now she's now newly 10, in 4th grade, and will probably be home till the end of the year. I was actually thinking that, if this works well for us, we might transition completely and finish out her elementary years at home. Well, she told me today that she hates home schooling. 😑 I've been trying to make it as fun as possible, outside whenever possible, a lot of play and silliness, discussions and read-alouds and Tinman Press books. But at the same time, the school is asking a lot of the kids...Math especially is ridiculous, iXL math facts, long division, multi-digit multiplication, it's incredibly boring. They're also supposed to be reading these dry articles about the American Revolution (it was while reading that she said she hates hs), and ELA really looks like hamster wheel work. So I'm done with their busywork, it's not giving her what she needs and I want to be able to find something good about this awful time in history. I want to enrich her, get her away from that darned Chromebook, find things that will deepen her life and are FUN for both of us. At the same time, I don't want her to lose skills. This is my dilemma. So here we are...I'll have lots of time with her outside, taking walks, collecting, studying nature. We'll read a lot, of course. That's all good. For math I'd like to deschool a bit, through games. We have Prime Climb, but she's somewhat beyond that...I'm not sure what else might work well. For LA, I've always loved the look of MCT, but can you just start in the middle at a 4th grade level, or should I start at the beginning? Would that be enough? Any fun ideas for writing? Or unit studies? Project-based learning that would work for a 10 year old? Just sweet, enriching activities we can do together? This seemed so much easier when she was younger, she wanted to swallow the world and was open to everything. I want to bring that girl back...
  4. Thanks, Lecka, that makes a LOT of sense. She doesn't have typical anxiety, not scared of things or events, but I do think anxiety is behind the times she just flips. I'm not sure the best way to help her through that...But I'll definitely look into the book, thanks for the recommendation. (I'm considering trying a super-low dose of lithium, to see if it helps at all with the emotionality. It's also supposed to help with anxiety.)
  5. Hmmm...I know you've mentioned this before. But she seems like she knows when she's feeling off. She definitely knows when she's feeling regular physical sensations (hot/cold/tired/itchy), she knows when she's been able to tell me when she's feeling nervous or angry, and we've talked about how it feels inside when she's frustrated. It's just she doesn't seem to want to change those feelings, she'd rather throw something across the room (or hit) than do deep breathing or take a walk, because she gets that release of tension from throwing or hitting. And she sometimes will purposely provoke because she gets that dopamine burst...We've learned not to react at all, because it's giving her what she feels her body needs, but she sometimes escalates her actions just in an attempt to get that excitement. So I'm worried there won't be any benefit in her mind to calming herself.
  6. I think at least a couple of you here have used Mightier for emotional regulation. I'm strongly considering it, since emotionality is probably my ADHD daughter's biggest issue at this point. But I feel like even if she does learn how to calm herself within the games, that might not carry through to real life. She isn't willing to use the tools I've taught her when I see her escalating into frustration, I can suggest it, or say, "I see you're getting frustrated," and that brings her into a full-force explosion. She's extremely averse to discussing feelings, she says it hurts in her belly to talk about them (maybe because she's realized on her own that it's a weakness.) (This made Zones a total failure.) It's like she almost likes those huge feelings in a way, maybe because of the increase in dopamine. So is a program showing her how to come down from the edge going to do any good if she's not motivated to use what she's learned in real life?
  7. Thanks so much for sharing your experiences, Exercise Guru! We eat very cleanly, few processed foods, but I have DD on a pretty high protein diet, since it's recommended for ADHD, so I'm not sure how much meat I'd be able to cut out. (We don't eat any red meat, only chicken/turkey and fish, as well as eggs and cheese.) Do you get protein primarily from grains/nuts? I kept DD dairy (and gluten) free for 2 years, and didn't see any changes, but she was eating meat and eggs at that time. And I'd love a cookbook recommendation, thank you!
  8. Yes, she's compound heterozygous. But her B's were all fine, so I assumed she's methylating properly. The tinteroception does fascinate me, although she seems to be feeling things inside her accurately, registers hunger and fullness and thirst...but maybe can't register the anger or hurt feelings or whatever. She HATES talking about feelings, so obviously they're making her uncomfortable, I haven't been able to figure out what's behind that but it's been going on ever since she was little, she gets so agitated and upset. Maybe she realizes she feels things more strongly than others and feels somehow ashamed, even though I've assured her multiple times that we all have big emotions inside. I don't know, but it's made therapy a disaster for her...So I'm not sure how she'd handle the interoception work, I'll have to get more of a sense what it involves when it comes out.
  9. I bought the book "What To Do When Your Temper Flares" trying to address the aggression, and this morning she was all in my face, grabbing off my glasses, I got away from her and firmly told her to give my glasses back and she quoted, "The only person making you angry is YOU." Yeah, this book is going to come back to haunt me for awhile.
  10. Thanks, all, this is so interesting. So the interoception work is basically mindfulness, but broken down to be less nebulous. I'm buying the book...We did mindfulness for awhile, but she got very resistant to it so I stopped. Maybe I can find a way to make this more fun, I don't know. Our big issue now is we've been seeing aggression, which is new. Her emotions are completely out of control, I don't know if it's hormonal (I think I may be starting to see body changes already, ugh...) or if we've just gotten into a bad cycle, but there are times that it's BAD. Like she'll pull me back onto her foot and then beat me up because I hurt her. (She beats up furniture too when she bumps into it...) So I actually was looking into SSP (so interesting that you've tried it Mamashark!) talked to a provider about it, and she said it's not really helpful for ADHD, unless they have mysophonia or some sort of trauma background, but recommended Focus instead. And that's how I got here...
  11. Thanks, this is probably what I needed to hear... We're not doing any other therapies right now, but she's in school so time is reasonably limited. What is the interception program? It doesn't sound familiar to me. (Let me know if it's been discussed here before, if so I can do a search.)
  12. Ugh, thanks. Yeah, she has tactile SPD, just a little and only with clothes, but she doesn't have any issue with noises, so I don't see how ILs could help with this. They make so many claims, and the practitioner I spoke with was so enthusiastic about the program, but of course she was also trying to sell it...
  13. I know there's been a little talk about ILs and other listening therapies here, but not much...I'm trying to figure out whether there's actually a sound basis behind these types of systems, or if it's just a lot of hype and good marketing. There's so little information out there, and most of what I've seen looks like it's sponsored by ILs. We have a little money to spend at the moment, and I've been wondering about this for awhile, but I do wonder whether it's worth the (not insubstantial) cost and (also not insubstantial) effort. My daughter has ADHD, her biggest issue at this point is emotional regulation (and social skills.) ILs claims they can help with both, but I'm finding that a bit hard to believe. Thanks for any insight any of you may have!
  14. I don't have any good tips (although we made this same transition), except that I'd recommend giving it some time for them to settle in before starting afterschooling. It's a huge transition, and you wouldn't want to overload them. They'll also have homework (the amount depending on their ages and the school system), and will be exhausted at the end of a long day. If you do afterschool, I'd focus on just one or two subjects, and at least in the beginning limit it to weekends. We do BA, but only rarely, and that's really all we do. I want to give DD8 time to play and read books and create...all of which I think are far more important than academic learning. (We only do BA because they're doing Go Math, which I'm not thrilled with, and she's pretty mathematically minded so finds it fun.)
  15. Thanks! (Good luck on your labs!) And sorry I wasn't clear. Yes, they tested all her B's, D and ferritin, and all were normal. She is COMT++, but my understanding (I may very well be wrong!) was that this only means we'd have to be careful which version of folate we supplemented with, not that it would counteract the MTHFR mutations. She actually doesn't take a multi, or any other supplements. But she eats a healthy diet, with lots of veggies including dark leafy greens. She doesn't eat red meat, though, and rarely has eggs, so I was surprised her B12 was as good as it was. And she has a VDR Taq mutation, but her D was completely normal as well even without supplementation (and despite the fact she's always wearing sunscreen outside.) She also doesn't drink cow's milk, so doesn't get D from there. So...I don't know, it seems like the genes aren't expressing? I've read some of Dirty Genes, and heard Ben Lynch speak, and his view is that as long as you keep a healthy diet and reduce stress, sleep well, don't drink too much alcohol, etc., you don't need to worry about supplementation. I'm relieved we don't need to worry about supplementing, but on the other hand I was almost hoping for an answer to why we're seeing the problems we see. It may be related to her COMT mutation (although that's SO common), or some other SNPs that I haven't been focusing on. But yeah, it looks like we're not going to be able to fix anything by supplementing. (I should say, I've started her on the Nemechek Protocol, just because all the components are harmless/healthy so it seems like it won't hurt to try it. We only started recently, so the jury's still out. But who knows, supposedly that's supposed to affect epigenetics as well.)
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