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Hello, I've been asked to teach some small coop math classes next year. This year I'm teaching Geometry (Jacobs) and in the past have taught Algebra 1 (Holt). I love the Jacob's Geometry. The Holt, it's pages are busy but it has some good points, too. Ages ago I used Foerster with my son for Algebra I and II but I hardly remember it and the books are not in my personal library any more. I'm looking for text recommendations for PreAlgebra, Algebra, Algebra II, and PreCalc/Trig. I had originally thought to use Jacob's Algebra I since I like the Geometry so much, but now I'm wondering whether consistency in all the classes (except geometry) would be a better idea and if so, what text? I did get my hands on some Lial's (how do you pronounce that, by the way?) but only the Beginning Algebra, Intermediate Algebra, and PreCalculus with Limits, not the PreAlgebra. They were $4 per book so I'm not heavily invested here, they mostly quite old. I haven't had a chance to evaluate them yet. If I do use Jacobs for both Algebra I and Geometry, what do you think would be a good PreAlgebra, Algebra II, and Precal? Do you think consistency is important? Thank you for your input, I really appreciate your experience and your comments. Sandra p.s. I'm sure my sig line is very out of date.

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Hi all! My son did Shormann Algebra I last year and is going to finish Algebra II this year. This program includes a 1/2 credit of geometry each year. He struggled in Algebra I, but for the second half of Algebra II, his daily grades have slipped into the upper 70s mid80s. I am not 100% comfortable with him moving on to PreCalculus next year, but it is not as if he flunked either. He is resistant to "mom" helping him too much and I am trying to respect that, but I have maybe let his struggle go on too long. What do you think, homeschooling friends? Any advice as to what to do next?(He is considering going into engineering or a science field so going easy on math is not an option )


Hello, would appreciate hearing anyone's experience with aops online classes. I am considering an aops prealgebra online class (have not decided on prealgebra 1 or 2) for my 4th grade son, who enjoys math and likes to participate in math competitions such as math counts, amc 8, etc. Since this class costs over $300 and requires regular time commitment, I am wondering if a student can learn the material by just studying the aops prealgebra book. Specifically, I am wondering if the online class would allow students to learn the material at a deeper level, making the cost worthwhile. Also, I suppose it would be easier for a 4th grader to learn the material through an online class vs. on his own, which would require a greater selfdiscipline. Thx. a ton in advance for your response.

Yes, I've read the pinned post on math programs and did a search for TT and Algebra. What I need is some honest feedback at this point. Our DS is interested in science and technology, and always did well in math. Until algebra, where he's encountered some difficulty. We're currently using Holt through publisher with online materials. However, even with some repetition he's continuing to have difficulty with some of the concepts. I'm wondering if something more straightforward would help. I'm drawn to Teaching Textbooks because of the online gradebook and constant feedback. Questions: Would TT Algebra be a solid course? He did the placement tests but I'd not be comfortable in placing him into Algebra 2 at this point. (I'd thought TT was a year behind, but not sure about higher grades). He's currently between 1/22/3 done with Algebra in terms of going through book, but I don't think his skill level reflects this. I'm thinking about starting him at beginning and testing through the TT Algebra I until he has difficulty, and then starting lessons at that point. Is this a good approach? Any other feedback on TT Algebra, good or bad? This is a very intelligent kid but he does have some difficulty focusing. We'd always thought he was geared to go the math/science route but we're off to a later start and he really is showing more strengths at this age in some other areas.
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Greetings! Shout out to, and question for, my fellow adventuresome math parents who were the pioneers to use Math Mammoth 7 after it's release last year. My dd (with dw) completed MM57 (highly recommend it), and now the ageold question  what to use for algebra? We are not directionless, but need to pull the trigger on something. DD is aboveaverage but reluctant in math, enjoys it when the light bulb goes off and she gains confidence. She really is a wonderful, compliant kid, but math is the only battlefront (mild). DW is very algebracompetent but we think a video of someone else will help avoid the teenmom tension, if you get me... We've seen MM's recommendations here: http://www.mathmammoth.com/complete/algebra_1.php We've ruled out some for our own reasons; ds used VideoText for algebra 1 and 2 and it's wonderful, but ds says "no way" LOL. We thought of making her use it due to inve$tment, but math is our only struggle with her so not going to fight. Anything for my baby! :) 1) What are you other MM7 grads using for algebra this year? Why? 2) For us, we've narrowed it down to: Derek Owens (ds has done very well with him in geometry and precalc) Ask Dr. Callahan DVD's/tests/lessons with Jacobs text DO: known and excellent, videos, selfmade text based on Dolciani, grading, email support (which has been great with ds). DD interested and likes DO's style and voice. Costs more. Grading isn't cheap! ADC: unknown but good reviews, videos, Jacobs text, no grading, email support. DD not so sure but I think she'd like Dr. C's daughter in the videos. Costs less.
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Hi All, I am hoping for some pearls of wisdom here because I am really agonizing over a math decision. Here is the background. My DS is a sophomore & completed MUS Algebra 1 in 9th grade. He got a B in the class, he is not a strong math student & works hard for his grade. He had done MUS since 6th grade. Well last summer, after completing MUS algebra 1, DS decided he wants to be a nurse & get his BSN degree. Well after research we realized he will need college algebra & stats as general ed requirements & no other higher level maths. Thank goodness. So I decided he would do Saxon Algebra 1 until Thanksgiving as a quick review to solidify his algebra skills. Well long story short, he is now just finishing up Saxon Algebra 1 & it has been agony. Lessons take DS 3 hours & many test scores are in low 70's. We have talked to Art Reed on many occasions & he has been very helpful. He is having DS back up 10 lessons now & then charge forward. So here are my problems: Because I made DS repeat a class he already had on his transcript, he has no credit for math his sophomore year In our state he needs Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2 & an advanced math on his transcript to graduate DS really does better to split the Saxon lesson & half but then the next book will take too long Here are my questions: In looking at MUS Algebra 2, I think DS could whip through it because it has much of the same content as Saxon Alg 1then he could be done by the end of summer & I could put it on his transcript, should I do this? If MUS in completed through PreCalculus is that enough for an low average math student to be prepared for College Algebra? Should DS finish out Saxon Algebra 1 & start Saxon Algebra 2 immediately, knowing it will take 365 days of agony to complete? Would a student like this even be capable of completing the first 60 lessons of Saxon Advanced Math he would need in order to get his Geometry credit? (It sounds like this course is difficult for a good math student) At this point I'm not interested in any other math curricula. Any guidance would be so greatly appreciated. I can't wrap my head around what the appropriate thing to do is. Jean

I have a word problem that has me stumped. I'm having trouble even understanding the question. I'm sure I'm just missing something easy, but I was hoping someone could help. This problem needs to be solved using only one variable. Leslie has 20 quarters and dimes. If she had as many dimes as she has quarters and as many quarters as dimes, she would have 30 cents less. How many of each coin does she have. The answer: 11 quarters and 9 dimes Thanks for you help! AllSmiles

My 10th grader has been working through Intermediate Algebra for almost a year. She completed AOPS' Intro to Algebra and Intro to Geometry. We've decided to continue with a less rigorous precal text. I know that the Intro to Algebra contains material standard to both Algebra I and II. For those of you familiar with the books, at what point in the Intermediate Algebra textbook will she have covered all of the necessary Algebra II topics? My husband, who has taught college level Calculus and is helping my daughter through the course, recognizes that AOPS is much more in depth than the typical Algebra course, but isn't sure at what point she'll have covered enough to move on to precalculus. Is that clear? Thanks in advance for your help! Carla

We're doing an online Algebra course, but it's a LOT of screen time. I'm planning to either rent or buy the print textbook which is aligned with the course. This is through HMH. But when I look it up on Amazon  they also offer an "interactive student edition." Can anyone explain what that is? I am LOST in the sea of HMH algebra textbooks on Amazon. LOL.
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We're looking for a good, selfpaced biology course and algebra course. What we really want is selfpaced, with textbook (NOT all online if possible!) but also supporting materials. Something that could be started now, and completed over the academic year and summer. Our son is very bright, but does need more time and everything written  so an online lecture class is not the best choice for us at this time. Any recommendations? We'd like something that would be well respected on college transcripts.

Hi everyone, I need a new math solution for my current 8th grader. I have never used an online course, but I think that might be a perfect option for us for the rest of the school year. He is feeling done with homeschooling in generalbig sister left after 8th grade and is now a sophomore in high school, and he is planning on heading to high school in the fall too. We've been using Singapore since 1st grade, but he is struggling with NEM 8th grade. Mostly though, he is just struggling these days with ME as his teacher. :) Do you have any recommendations? He responds very well to structure. I'm OK with rigorous, would prefer something he can do at his own pace (which would probably be fast, but flexibility would be nice). I would like him to be ready to start Geometry in the fall, so would love a course that offers a complete Algebra. He might be able to skip large sections, but something that tests his level would be great too. Thank you! Kristin
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I posted a question about a year ago about using Khan as a core curriculum along with Zacarro Algebra Problem Solving for prealgebra. Here I am a year later with a similar question. My daughter used the above combo for pre algebra last year in 7th grade. It seemed to be working well, other than there not being detailed enough solutions in the Zacarro book, until half way through the year when she panicked that Khan might not be covering everything she needed to know. Since there wasn't a preset lesson each day, she didn't have confidence that she was doing enough. We jumped ship and purchased Saxon algebra 1/2. She did only tests until she came upon things she was uncertain about and then did the lessons to correspond to those topics. Neither of us liked Saxon though, and towards the end of the year, I purchased VideoText Algebra. They suggest you always start with the pre algebra portion and cover all of their material to complete all the way through algebra 2. She is nearly through Module A, which is roughly equivalent to pre algebra and wants to find something else to stick with through high school. The explanations don't make as much sense to her as Khan, which worries her for what it will be like when she reaches more difficult material. And the many pieces to the curriculum make it hard for her to face every day. She is begging to go back to Khan Academy. She enjoys the videos in Khan and the way things are presented. She likes puzzling through the problems and using the hints and videos when necessary. She even enjoys watching more advanced topics for fun. She just plain likes Khan even though she doesn't like computers or videos that much in general. The general consensus around here though seems to be that Khan alone is not enough. Is there an inexpensive resource we could put with it to add problems, and more particularly to have some sort of assessment so she can be certain she thoroughly understands each topic before moving on? Unfortunately I am no help since I have forgotten over the years all the algebra knowledge I once possessed. She needs to be fairly independent. Her preference would to have Khan be her core with the other resource as the supplement rather than plugging through a textbook and using Khan for the video explanations. Is this possible? I don't want her to be lacking in anything, but I need to find something that works for her that is inexpensive, but can be used mostly independently. I had hoped Videotext would be the answer for us. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions.

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I posted a question about a year ago about using Khan as a core curriculum along with Zacarro Algebra Problem Solving for prealgebra. Here I am a year later with a similar question. My daughter used the above combo for pre algebra last year in 7th grade. It seemed to be working well, other than there not being detailed enough solutions in the Zacarro book, until half way through the year when she panicked that Khan might not be covering everything she needed to know. Since there wasn't a preset lesson each day, she didn't have confidence that she was doing enough. We jumped ship and purchased Saxon algebra 1/2. She did only tests until she came upon things she was uncertain about and then did the lessons to correspond to those topics. Neither of us liked Saxon though, and towards the end of the year, I purchased VideoText Algebra. They suggest you always start with the pre algebra portion and cover all of their material to complete all the way through algebra 2. She is nearly through Module A, which is roughly equivalent to pre algebra and wants to find something else to stick with through high school. The explanations don't make as much sense to her as Khan, which worries her for what it will be like when she reaches more difficult material. And the many pieces to the curriculum make it hard for her to face every day. She is begging to go back to Khan Academy. She enjoys the videos in Khan and the way things are presented. She likes puzzling through the problems and using the hints and videos when necessary. She even enjoys watching more advanced topics for fun. She just plain likes Khan even though she doesn't like computers or videos that much in general. The general consensus around here though seems to be that Khan alone is not enough. Is there an inexpensive resource we could put with it to add problems, and more particularly to have some sort of assessment so she can be certain she thoroughly understands each topic before moving on? Unfortunately I am no help since I have forgotten over the years all the algebra knowledge I once possessed. She needs to be fairly independent. Her preference would to have Khan be her core with the other resource as the supplement rather than plugging through a textbook and using Khan for the video explanations. Is this possible? I don't want her to be lacking in anything, but I need to find something that works for her that is inexpensive, but can be used mostly independently. I had hoped Videotext would be the answer for us. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions.

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This is our third year using Saxon (currently in Saxon Algebra 1, 3rd edition). Every so often, DS12's performance starts to deteriorate. His scores on tests and homeworks drop from 90s to 80s or less. Time spent on math increases dramatically, sometimes to as much as three hours for one lesson. This is especially common in the latter third of the book. When this happens, my advice is to WALK IT BACK. If you redo the last 5 or 10 lessons, you will probably see a huge improvement in your child's speed, accuracy, confidence, and attitude.

I've spent a lot of time looking for online samples of Foerster's Algebra 1, as I'm considering ordering the text for my son, but have had no success. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how review is built into the Foerster's text. Do the daily assignments contain a review section, which covers material learned in previous lessons and chapters? If not, is there cumulative review built in, in another way? We've used Rod and Staff Arithmetic since grade 1 and love the way each lesson has a review section, so I'm trying to find an algebra that has a similar format. Also, how long does it take to complete a day's lesson, including both teacher and student involvement? Thanks so much!

DS12 will finish up Saxon Algebra 1, 3rd ed., in a few months. He does well with Saxon and we plan on eventually proceeding to Saxon Algebra 2 and Saxon Advanced Mathematics. He has been doing fine, scoring 85 or so on most of his tests. I think his conceptual understanding is excellent, but he is prone to making sloppy mistakes. After he finishes the Saxon Algebra 1 book, here are some options: proceed directly to Saxon Algebra 2, assuming he scores 85 or higher on his last three tests; spend a couple of months reviewing Algebra 1 using AoPS, Lial, Foerster, or Jacobs. I think he'd be fine proceeding to Saxon Algebra 2. However, he is quite young and I worry about him falling into the "Calculus Trap." At his current pace, he'll finish Calculus at age 15. I like the idea of building in some "detours" in between Saxon texts. He will probably tackle Jacobs Geometry after Saxon Algebra 2, for example. I am a little concerned about his sloppiness and would prefer to see him scoring a bit higher on his tests. So I am leaning toward option #2. However, I am not sure which book to use for Algebra review. We tried AoPS a few years ago and it didn't go well. My son is not passionate about math and is not a math genius. I own Jacobs' Algebra book; it looks relatively easy compared to Saxon Algebra 1. I don't know if this would be the right book for us. I have not seen Lial or Foerster. I know they are popular here.

My son has been placed in HS Algebra I as a 7th grader due to his test scores and grades. While he loves math, jumping from 6th grade regular math (they didn't have differentiated courses in elementary school) to a high school course has been tough. So many things were skipped! We are helping him each night and it is getting better, but we are wondering if there are any supplemental programs out there that might be helpful to fill the gaps. Thanks for any suggestions!
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We hit a snag with slopes in Algebra using Tablet Class, so I pulled out our Foerster book for extra help/practice. But I noticed that graphing comes much later in the book with Foerster (chapter 7) than it does on TabletClass (chapter 3). I am wondering if there is a reason for this and whether there is an advantage to the sequence in Foerster. My son likes TabletClass but hasn't been doing as well as he historically has done in math. I am not sure whether it's his readiness level or if it's the curriculum. I am not a math person, although I did go through calculus in high school. But it's not my best subject. So I am not sure how to determine if we just need to switch books or if we need to go more slowly or ??
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