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  1. Hi, parents, AOP is a very strong program but my children find it challenging to do the work . Any suggestion where to look for more online help? Any study group? Or any videos you find online? One child likes to use Khan Academy. Is there a study group online that meets regularly to help each other out?
  2. Hello, I've been asked to teach some small co-op math classes next year. This year I'm teaching Geometry (Jacobs) and in the past have taught Algebra 1 (Holt). I love the Jacob's Geometry. The Holt, it's pages are busy but it has some good points, too. Ages ago I used Foerster with my son for Algebra I and II but I hardly remember it and the books are not in my personal library any more. I'm looking for text recommendations for Pre-Algebra, Algebra, Algebra II, and Pre-Calc/Trig. I had originally thought to use Jacob's Algebra I since I like the Geometry so much, but now I'm wonderi
  3. So...I thought since there are quite a few threads going now on the topic of Pre-Algebra, it might be helpful to have one master thread to discuss texts, and to link to previous conversations. (Links at the bottom) I will post a link to my blog once I get photos up, as I know some of the texts are hard to preview online (Lial's, in particular) I have received Dolciani PreAlgebra: An Accelerated Course (1985) and Lial's Pre-Algebra Third Edition in the mail this past week. I already own Lial's BCM and AoPS Pre-A. So I think I have shopped enough that I can now safely make my decision...:D
  4. I am considering purchasing McDougall-Littel Pre-Algebra 3rd Edition and was wondering if it is necessary to purchase a Teachers Guide or Solutions Manual? I am looking for a textbook type pre-algebra that would be similar to Math Mammoth in explanations. I don't like Dolciani or AOP's they seem like they may cause frustration for my dd. I am also considering Lial's Pre-Algebra but was wondering if you need to get teachers guides or solution manuals with that textbook? Does anyone have experience using these textbooks that can give me some input as to whether there is much benefit in purch
  5. Does anyone have any experience using Singapore Math 6B? If so, what did you use next? I was planning to do Jacob's Math (algebra) with Dr. Callahan because I have heard such great things. But when my dd did the 'are you ready' test on Dr. Callahan's site she missed more than I'm comfortable with. So now I'm revisiting the idea of a formal 'pre' algebra course. Singapore has hit on many of the concepts but I'm guessing not all (we've used their u.s. standards editions since first grade). Does anyone have a recommendation for what we should use prior to Dr. Callahan's Jacobs Mat
  6. We just finished chapter 1 of AoPS prealgebra and DS 11 is totally balking at writing out the problems. He's always hated to write, but many of the exercise, review, and challenge problems required him to cross things out, regroup, etc., and sometimes he really needed to have the numbers on a sheet in front of him. I wrote out a few for him, but it was long and tedious and not how I want to spend my time. Do your kids willingly write out the problems if they need to manipulate the numbers? I thought of making copies of these sections, but the way they are spaced on the sheet doesn't offer much
  7. DS10 just completed AOPS online prealgebra class and is a little intimidated at the idea of starting the algebra class. The class was a good pace and skill but he needed help thinking through some of the challenge problems. Any ideas? Do we continue (we can do alcumus before the start of class), take a break and do zacarro algebra, LOF algebra, AOPS AMC 8 basics (never done any math competition) Any other ideas? Thanks.
  8. Hi, I'm ready to start my 10 year-old son on AoPS Prealgebra. I'm new to the middle-school / high-school part of AoPS, and really don't know what would all be necessary to get started. I see there are lots of you, moms and dads, here, who have experience with AoPS. AoPS offers the paperback textbook (with solutions), in addition to the online textbook. One can purchase just the paperback, or just the online book, or the combo (paperback + online book) . So, the question is, is it enough to just buy the paperback version? Or would adding the online version as well enhance the lear
  9. I was able to pick up the 2nd edition of Lial's Prealgebra & Introductory Algebra (P&IA) at a used book sale. I looked at the table of contents for her Prealgebra (P) book online, & they match up with the first half of the book that I just bought. My question is do the lessons in the (P) book go into more detail than the (P&IA) book? Is there a sample online somewhere of one of the (P) lessons that I can use for comparison? I'm looking to use this book next year for an 8th grader. Thank you.
  10. I know there's much anxiety over selecting a pre-algebra program. DS just completed AoPS Pre-Algebra and I kept detailed notes throughout so I decided to share it with the Hive. If you don't know much about AoPS, the company teaches mathematics using the discovery method. The student works through example problems that gradually increase in difficulty to teach a particular concept. After the example section, there is an explanation of the concept taught. There's often call-out boxes with important notes. After the section, there are exercises for the student to work through. At the end of
  11. Hello Ladies, I was wondering if there are any users of the Art of Problem Solving Prealgebra on this forum. I am getting ready to start my son (7th grader) on it. I am not sure how much would be reasonable to assign every day. I see that there are 15 chapters in the book so about two week per chapter would take about 30 weeks, leaving enough margin. Is this reasonable? How much time did your student spend doing the lesson each day? Any daily schedules that can be found some where? Thanks a lot!
  12. We use Horizons math and I have been planning on transitioning to a new program our prealgebra year. I am fairly certain that I have settled on (generic) chalkdust and have been checking out the prealgebra book and DVDs. I am a little uncertain though as I keep seeing things like, "I have found that I can move directly into Algebra I from Horizon 6 without any intermediate work" (taken from Rainbow Resource). I don't want to push too hard, but if we can speed up math a year, I am all for it. Have you skipped prealgebra after Horizons? Have you used Prealgebra and/or Algebra from Chalkdust
  13. My dd12 is finishing ch 3 of AoPS Pre-Algebra. She is generally a very slow math student (it takes her for.ev.er to work through a set of problems), but she is liking the challenge of AoPS so far. I am wondering if I can lighten her load by omitting some of the problems. We are already skipping the challenge problems. The regular ones are challenging enough. :tongue_smilie: I'm asking, because I want her to finish PreA in a reasonable time frame. Ideally, by September or October, so that she can start Algebra in 8th grade. We aren't sure if she will go to ps for high school, or if I will
  14. Hello fellow parents, I am sending out this email to inform you about a new ONLINE math class that I am helping coordinate (my son will be in this class) and hoping to fill so we can begin on Fri, Aug 29, 2014. This class will be facilitated by Dr Sega who is a classically trained mathematician from Romania. Dr Sega used to run the San Jose Math Circle and was also involved in the Stanford Math Circle. This is not an enrichment class and HW will be assigned. There will also be periodic quizzes to gauge understanding but mostly the emphasis will be on student discussion, problem s
  15. So can someone tell me about Singapore Math post-PM6B? I really like that it is an integrated approach to math, and that they have work books to go along with it but...How do all of the different programs fit together? Why are some of them 1/2 canceled and the others not...I am confused. What happened to New Elementary Mathematics level 3 and 4? Why did they cancel them? Is it possible to order them from a different site perhaps? What is with Dimensions Math being retitled Discovering Math 1 and 2??? Are they planning to rewrite and publish the rest of Dimensions Math as Discovering Ma
  16. I want to do a solid year of PreAlgebra with my rising 7th grader next year. I am considering AoPS but also wonder if Kahn Academy is an option. Those of you who have used it, is there enough "meat" to it? Thanks in advance!
  17. DD9 is on track to finish MM 5B sometime this fall. My current plan is to have her work through 6A and B and then move into AOPS prealgebra, but it seems I have heard some people skip MM6. I'm not in a hurry, but I am curious to know if there are things in MM6 that need to be covered before prealgebra or if the program is redundant at that point.
  18. We're doing AOPS PreAlgebra at home, without the online class. I'm trying to figure out how to pace the book. Doing one section each day (1.2, 1.3, 1.4,...) seems too fast. We tried that in chapter one, and retention was not so good. Dd is in 5th grade and relatively mathy, as is Mom. I don't have her read and do the problems on her own. We read and work through them together at the white board. Then she does the exercises on her own, and we review them together at the white board. I am considering reviewing the problems at the start of a section on one day, then have the s
  19. My DD10 is ready to drop AoPS. She was in ps until this year and used Every Day Math supplemented with Zaccaro at school and EPGY at home. When I pulled her out, we tried to start Singapore, but she hated it, so we mostly used EPGY with some other supplementing until we saw the AoPS Prealgebra and she passed that deceptively easy pretest. When we started out, she had a hard time, but I thought that there would probably be a learning curve, so I didn't worry about it too much at first. By the end of the first chapter, I was concerned that it was too hard and would make her dread math, so I gave
  20. My 6th grade dd has finished Singapore 6B and I'm trying to decide where to go from here. We've used Singapore exclusively since 1st grade and she's done very well with the curriculum. What are others doing after Singapore? What are some things I should be considering when making a decision? Thanks for your advice!:)
  21. Ok I know I have sung the praises of LoF high and low, and I stand by my opinion that it is a stand alone program, my dd is positively flourishing with it. However, my (rising 7th grade) ds is just not getting it. He loves LoF, and he wants it to work so bad, but he is just completely lost. A bit of background here, my son is a serious math hater/struggler. He attended school (both private & public) from K-2nd. When he would come home with homework sheets he had no idea on how to do the math. I would sit with him for hours every night teaching him the concepts he was supposed to have
  22. Hi! I have posted a few math questions on the middle grades board recently, and a couple of people directed me here, so here I am. :) My oldest dd picks up math very easily. We have always used R&S for math, and this year we used LOF Fractions as well. She will be in 6th grade next year, and I'm torn about what to do. I have R&S math 6, and it looks like she will zip through it because she already knows a lot of it. We own LOF percents and decimals. I am getting ready to buy R&S 7 from another poster here. I read about Lial's and Dolciani maths so I bought a couple of very chea
  23. I ordered the 1973 and 1988 Dolciani pre-algebra books and the 6th edition of Lial Basic College Math, and all three arrived today. I ordered them because I wanted to see what pre-algebra "looks" like. And they were very cheap (less than $16 for all 3). :D Anyway, I haven't had a ton of time to look through them, but I was under the impression that BCM is equivalent to pre-algebra. In looking at the table of contents and flipping through, it looks a lot different than the Dolciani pre-algebra books. I think my oldest (6th grade next year) could do a lot of the work in the BCM book now. We
  24. Yes. It's me and math again. I am very frustrated. I am waiting anxiously for the publication of Horizons Pre-Algebra. Sight unseen, I am ready to use it. We used Horizons 3-6 easily. Last year we did Chalk Dust Prealgebra and made it through roughly half of the book. It included a tremendous number of concepts & I thought we had a great basis for beginning algebra. Well, ds rebelled at the Chalk Dust format of long videos followed by numerous practice problems (I had him doing every other odd-numbered problem, about 25 per day). I decided that we did, indeed need to change as th
  25. I was hoping to use Horizons, because both my 4th grader and 6th grader are using Horizons this year. The 4th grader is not crazy about it, so I'm switching him to Math Mammoth for 5th. But I was ready to do Horizons pre-Algebra next year with my 6th grader, but he tells me today he doesn't really like it! (he is an easy student who doesn't complain, so who knew?!) I supplement both kids with Life of Fred, which they enjoy immensely. In fact the 6th grader is doing LOF pre-algebra w/Biology right now. However as much as I like Fred, I get nervous when there isn't a workbook type book with
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